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Very nice fila pup for sale

Tubarao'smom

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This is in reference to the locked thread this is carma's sister

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mountainfila

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So is that a pup he bought or is it one he studded his male out and got a pup in return that he is trying to sell? I have no idea who the parents of your pup was, just curious.
 

Tubarao'smom

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I think this is the puppy he bought but in the other thread said she was a keeper

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Bh-k9

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The pup for sale was in response to a locked thread... we were told the pup would never be for sale.


Wonderful pup ,from a good breeder- pups current owner....... Trying to help the poor pup find a good forever home.

No the dad is not boy next to her, that's another dog for sale for 800 obo
 

mountainfila

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So does ironelite own the sire, is what im asking? How did he come to own the said pup in question?

And yes i know exactly what went on in the other thread
 
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Tubarao'smom

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No he does not own the sire. He bought the pup from the same individual who bred carma, the sire of the pup is one of the son's of Urmiri.
 

Bh-k9

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No he doesn't,he just bought the pup to breed to his boy when she got older

He bought the pup from a reputable breeder and decided he didn't that it would be more binifical to sale his dogs rather then fix them since animal control told hi he had to fix them or get rid of them .
 

mountainfila

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Doesnt seem to reputable to me, i would not have sold a pup to this person, guess i just screen my buyers more then the "reputable" breeder.
 

aceoutdoor

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Mountainfila did you see the pedigree with Borghetto in it? I think the original breeder is being very dishonest pushing the 100% Pure Cafib, knowing well they are not at all. "have an excellent CAFIB Fila family tree......And not the "Americano" cross bred monsters". I believe he posting all the Cafib links on here, OC-Fila? Why would you tell people these are pure Cafib pups when they are not, just be honest.


 

aceoutdoor

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That would be the equivalent of me saying these are 100% CBKC thick boned, mastiffy Fila pups. Not some thin boned, weak temped hounds. And then posting a pedigree with Itanhandu in it. WTF?
 

mountainfila

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No he does not own the sire. He bought the pup from the same individual who bred carma, the sire of the pup is one of the son's of Urmiri.

Oh i see, another one of those "secret" cafib breedings hahahahaha, Urmiri has been bred to everything under the sun, so that doesnt tell me much. Has Urmiri had all his 3 litters and had all the pups from those 3 litters evaluated? Its easy to say its a cafib fila but if he hasnt been through all the criteria and all his pups he produced, does not make him a cafib fila, it makes him approved to start the process. That term is being thrown around like its a common thing and its not, I feel its just become a marketing tool to make more money, "if you dont buy a cafib fila you dont have a real fila" type ads floating around the web and yet they will sell a cafib pup to a guy who is going to breed it to a cbkc fila, in it for money or the "betterment" of the breed?
 

Tubarao'smom

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Oh i see, another one of those "secret" cafib breedings hahahahaha, Urmiri has been bred to everything under the sun, so that doesnt tell me much. Has Urmiri had all his 3 litters and had all the pups from those 3 litters evaluated? Its easy to say its a cafib fila but if he hasnt been through all the criteria and all his pups he produced, does not make him a cafib fila, it makes him approved to start the process. That term is being thrown around like its a common thing and its not, I feel its just become a marketing tool to make more money, "if you dont buy a cafib fila you dont have a real fila" type ads floating around the web and yet they will sell a cafib pup to a guy who is going to breed it to a cbkc fila, in it for money or the "betterment" of the breed?

I don't know if you quoted me by mistake or why it seems as though you are being harsh towards me, I did not breed these dogs I was simply responding to your question, this pup is a littermate to carma there is nothing secretive about it. I don't think telling you Urmiri makes it anymore special but again I was simply stating that the sire's side goes back to him. Maybe you didn't mean to make this seem as though you were charging me up about this, but this is how I am perceiving this. I never said anything about cafib. My relation to this situation is this pup is a littermate of carma and not a thing more. This guy should have never ended up with this pup I agree with that but that was not my decision.
 

mountainfila

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No i was not meaning for your reply to be there lol, i thought i erased it, was going to reply to you first but decided to do it after i posted this , sorry forgive me please, totally not directed at you.
 

Tubarao'smom

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And I apologize in advance if the tone of your post was lost in translation. I wish this whole situation with this dog would just go away, it is such a painful topic to see this puppy posted on ebay when she could be here in a loving family but instead we are grieving the tragic loss of her sister.
 

mountainfila

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Mountainfila did you see the pedigree with Borghetto in it? I think the original breeder is being very dishonest pushing the 100% Pure Cafib, knowing well they are not at all. "have an excellent CAFIB Fila family tree......And not the "Americano" cross bred monsters". I believe he posting all the Cafib links on here, OC-Fila? Why would you tell people these are pure Cafib pups when they are not, just be honest.




You mean this Borghetto kennel, that breeds blacks (snicker) :lolbangtable:As i said in my other post, its just a wash to sell their pups, if you were a newb wanting to buy a fila , you would go with the one advertising the "real deal" the one blowing the most smoke.

DogFamily - Pedigree do cão ZEUS DO BORGHETTO
 

aceoutdoor

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You mean this Borghetto kennel, that breeds blacks (snicker) :lolbangtable:As i said in my other post, its just a wash to sell their pups, if you were a newb wanting to buy a fila , you would go with the one advertising the "real deal" the one blowing the most smoke.

DogFamily - Pedigree do cão ZEUS DO BORGHETTO


He removed the post and pedigrees right after I commented, but I have them saved. Did you not see the pedigree? Not only was there Borghetto blood but it was crossed with Juan's line LOL. AHHHH The one true, pure Fila, the Cafib Fila with a little Borghetto mixed in. Wow that is too cool.
 

Bh-k9

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I almost bought one of the pups simply because the parents have really good temp type 1 temp from dad and 1.5 temp on moms side.

In my other working dogs you can find a really good dog several times in one ped, and almost in every dogs ped that is a high caliber working dog. With filas how come this is a bad thing?

Not starting drama just asking an honest question, I know a lot of things but not all lol if this is one of the fila 101 taboo questions forgive me I didn't know.
 

Bh-k9

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And I apologize in advance if the tone of your post was lost in translation. I wish this whole situation with this dog would just go away, it is such a painful topic to see this puppy posted on ebay when she could be here in a loving family but instead we are grieving the tragic loss of her sister.


I'm sorry I'll ask the mods to destroy this thread! My apologies didn't know it would be a painful topic for you.