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Yamizuma

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And now we brought all these shit ass hounds to america as if we didn't have plenty of our own dogs that didn't have a home...

Different cultural norms...I get that. Some people will never eat a rabbit. I am not American, but doesn't Lady Liberty in the harbour in New York speak to giving the down trodden, the homeless, new hope. Is it species specific?


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I always assumed it was meant for people. I don't know for sure. Call me un-American lol.

If they were born and raised for food though, what business of ours to say NO? America's job isn't to police the world. IMO
 

Yamizuma

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Not remotely calling you un-American, my friend. Taking care of business at home first is important...and food is food when one is hungry. We are carnivores. I will only eat what I would be willing to kill. Carrots and chickens beware! Just sayin' that these dogs got an awesome pass in the "new World", and I hope they end up sharing their humans lives instead of on a plate with a side of salad.


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Boxergirl

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I'm of the opinion that any living being kept in filthy and inhumane conditions, regardless of their intended use or what country they live in, needs to be helped and the facility shut down. There's a video on Facebook of what is supposed to be this particular facility. I say supposed to be because I wasn't there, so I guess it could be some other facility. Regardless, it's repulsive and I'm glad the dogs were pulled. Not just because they are dogs. Because they are sentient beings. I feel the same way about cows, chickens, pigs, lobster, monkeys, elephants ..... people.
 

DDSK

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Cultural differences for sure, we don't eat dog or horse here but it is pretty normal in other parts of the world.
I have no problem with what they do or eat where they live as long as they assimilate to our way of life when they come here. I don't want to see dog meat hanging in my local meat market, most people don't want to see horse meat either but whatever their intentions for an animal it needs to be treated humanely while it is in their care and custody, and dispatched as humanely as possible.
 

DennasMom

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I'm kinda with you EverythingEM....
I don't like that dogs are being raised as meat... but why save the dogs and not save all cows, too?

But, there is a big difference between a cow and a dog. Dogs are carnivores and predators. Cows are herbivores and prey.
In most cases, predators do not hunt other predators.

Humans are pretty much omnivore/scavenger/opportunistic predators... but something about eating a fellow predator just doesn't sit right with me. There are probably some evolutionary concepts at work here, too... similar food sources can multiply virus and parasite transference potential. I'm thinking of parasites in wild pigs (omnivore/scavengers) versus wild bison (herbivores), more icky things that transfer direct to humans.

So... now we have a bunch of young homeless dogs airlifted to my state of Washington...

And the majority are "Japanese Mastiffs"?? Tosas??

From dogbreedinfo.com: In Japan, the Tosa is considered a national treasure. (??and yet some people will EAT it??) .... The Tosa is a rare breed (??Except on meat farms??), even in its native land and has only recently been introduced to the USA.

And... that young Tosa running around in the video is WAAAAY too skinny to eat... no meat on those bones! He does look to be in very good shape for a dog recently cooped up overseas, though. I'd take him home!
 

Yamizuma

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Interesting thread, for sure. Food is herbivorous vs carnivorous, sentient vs not ...maybe that's why I don't like bear. Aside from the fact it's nauseatingly greasy.

IMHO...any animal we eat should be treated humanely and killed quickly and as "humanely" as possible.

If you're going to be a carnivore, it should be a conscious thing. Meat was a living thing. If you aren't willing to kill it, don't eat it. Sentient entities should not divorce themselves from that reality.

I love dogs, and my interactions with them lead me to the view that they have souls, and the capacity to love. Not food for me.

Chickens, turkey, ducks, geese and fish...not feeling it. Food.

Horses? Giant dogs. Not food for me.

Etc., etc., etc.

That being said, if I was not so privileged as I am to pick and choose, I can't honestly say I wouldn't do what was necessary to survive...though I think I'd prefer to eat protein from more rapidly breeding, renewable sources like rabbits and such.








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Boxergirl

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..... IMHO...any animal we eat should be treated humanely and killed quickly and as "humanely" as possible.

If you're going to be a carnivore, it should be a conscious thing. Meat was a living thing. If you aren't willing to kill it, don't eat it. Sentient entities should not divorce themselves from that reality.

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These are my feelings exactly. The fact that these animals were (allegedly) being raised for food is neither here nor there to me, honestly. Nothing should be kept in such deplorable conditions.

I don't like the whole "we have our own homeless" argument. That's very similar to telling people that buy purebred dogs that they are killing dogs in shelters. Homeless animals in the US are a concern. I think everyone is aware of that. I hope anyone that is concerned about the homeless animals here in the US will step up to try to do something about it. Suit action to words. That's where the difference will be made. Rescues, shelters, animal control - they all need volunteers. Promote responsible breeding. We can all do something to help.