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Some dogs need harsh training?

karennj

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Am I missing something? I don't see a correction but it does look like the dog is asked the command again. I did not hear any verbal queues.
 

Boxergirl

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While I think many good points are made, I also feel there are many parts of this article that are way too generalized. Parts of the clicker training portion, for instance. If you're creating a neurotic dog (my word choice, not the author's) then I think you're doing it wrong. I'll also say again that I don't honestly know ANYONE that is truly positive only. Positive, yes. Only? No. I suppose Glasgow may fall in that PO category, but I don't know. I have also seen plenty of trainers that have adopted the new buzzword - balanced - and had no idea what they actually meant by it. It's become the "right" word to use recently, which usually means that many will use it incorrectly.

I really like Patricia McConnell's thoughts on being a positive trainer. This is just one article, but she has others.

Positives of Negatives Negatives of Positives
 

tmricciuto

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I really like Patricia McConnell's thoughts on being a positive trainer. This is just one article, but she has others. Positives of Negatives Negatives of Positives

I really liked this article and can relate to it. When I tell the girls to sit, and expect compliance, they get two fingers on their hind quarters if it doesn't happen. To me that is a consequence or something negative happening to them. For the most part my girls don't have a ton of strict rules, but we do have non-negotiables in order for them to live peacefully in the house with us hoomans.

Me putting two fingers on them to get them to sit is not averse in my opinion, and truly my opinion is all I care about in that moment because I'm interacting with them. But I see how others could come to that conclusion. At the end of the day, for me, I'm going to do what needs to be done in my house with my dogs. And while I may offer advice to others who ask for it, I expect them to do the same as I do because what does work for you might not work for me. Actually...what works for Bella often times doesn't work for Sage, and vice versa.
 

Boxergirl

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It's funny - I have one dog that is very sensitive to head touching. He will do anything to avoid it. Season has been posting a lot of Jeff Gellman vids and that was one thing I noticed that he does all the time - taps the dogs he's working with on the head while he's talking to the camera. Just something I noticed and that bothered me a little, only because I have a dog that doesn't do well with that. Clearly the dogs he's working with don't mind. Ella is a hands-off dog as well, but not to the point that Oliver is. Al? He needs a nudge now and again to snap him out of his bubble. I think it's all about knowing your dogs and not assuming that what works for one person's dog is going to work for another.
 

marke

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Stonnie's take on "Balance" Becoming a Better Dog Trainer Part Five - YouTubeI recommend the entire series on this subject of being a better dog trainer. He addresses dog trainers, but everyone with a dog is a trainer and it applies to us all. I liked it, anyway, and he cracks me up every time with his wit paired with his common sense approach.
I like that guy ............ I especially liked his 4 guard dog videos ..........
 

JamieHalverson

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I like that guy ............ I especially liked his 4 guard dog videos ..........
He's probably my favorite right now; his puppy videos were the basis for how I trained Lillie as far as manners and shaping desired behaviors when I brought her home at 8 weeks.
 

QY10

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Stonnie's take on "Balance" Becoming a Better Dog Trainer Part Five - YouTubeI recommend the entire series on this subject of being a better dog trainer. He addresses dog trainers, but everyone with a dog is a trainer and it applies to us all. I liked it, anyway, and he cracks me up every time with his wit paired with his common sense approach.
I really liked that video. I like that he mentioned balance means more than just the training techniques you use, but also understanding the role that exercise and genetics play.