Sire of my pup

[tojvan]

Hey guys I thought i'd post pictures of my pup's site and see what you guys think. All forum member are welcome not just the fila guys.

 

[dogman#1]

"V" lips (should be inverted "U"), muzzle MUCH shorter than the skull, stop should be less pronounced, slightly bulbous head.

 

[tojvan]

Yea unfortunately he has the "V" lips. I don't think the head is bulbous. Thanks for commenting(being honest) dogman appreciate the feedback. Hopefully other people comments aswell.

 

[dogman#1]

No problem. In some pics it doesnt appear bulbous but in one it is very apparent.... in the 2nd pic (the one with 4 in it) look to the top right pic.... although it is very bulbous in that one I said "slightly" bulbous only because the other pics arent in the same angles to show it so I dont want to go based on one possibly bad pic like at least one other person in this group does.

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

I don't know anything about Fila conformation but personally I think he's impressive!!!

PS what's the temp like?

 

[fila4me]

he is a beautiful dog, just not a beautiful Fila.

 

[cinnamon roll]

+1
How is the temp of your pup? And where are the pics I have been dying to see them!!!!

I don't know anything about Fila conformation but personally I think he's impressive!!!

PS what's the temp like?

 

[tojvan]

I don't know anything about Fila conformation but personally I think he's impressive!!!

PS what's the temp like?

Thanks for commenting duetsche. I don't know the dog personally so I won't comment but judging by my pups temperament it's solid, classic temp.

 

[tojvan]

he is a beautiful dog, just not a beautiful Fila.

Thanks fila for me appreciate the feedback. He's not the best, but I've seen much worse lol the funny thing is my pup doesn't have the v lips lol

 

[cinnamon roll]

Wow how big is your pup now? Looking good even wo the V lips

 

[fila4me]

your pup is adorable and gotten so big

 

[mountainfila]

"V" lips (should be inverted "U"), muzzle MUCH shorter than the skull, stop should be less pronounced, slightly bulbous head.

The v lip is a moot point as most of the cafib dogs that are being placed in shows have a v lip not a u lip, so whats the deal with that?? I seen alot of the dogs in the show that was streamed a couple days ago most of them had a v lip. I thought cafib has stated that it was a sign of mix breeding.

 

[chuckorlando]

Bet he's a big boy huh? Kinda reminds me of kane a little. He aint the prettiest but like you said, I have seen worse.

 

[mountainfila]

As was stated the muzzle is a bit shorter then the skull, should be a 1:1 ratio but i think that was change in the most recent update to the cbkc standard to allow for a shorter muzzle. As we know this fila is not a cafib bred dog, so should not be judged by that standard. When you look a the dog can you tell its a fila? Yes. Does it have ears inset at rear of the head and at the eye level? Yes. Does the dog have thick v shaped ears? Yes. Does the dog have thick loose skin as the standard requires? Yes. You can tell by the nice thick dewlap he has under his neck, a dog lacking skin will not have a very large dewlap or large lips for that matter. Does the dog have a stop? No it flows gradually into the forhead, these dogs were not shown to have a nose(muzzle) like a bull terrier back in the day, nor did they have a stop like an english mastiff, it was a gradual slope from the middle of the muzzle to the forehead and on a brindle faced dog it is hard to tell at certain angles. Does the dog have almond shaped eyes? Yes. Does the dog have a pear shaped head? Hard to tell unless you are right over the top of its head but from what i can see it looks on the pear shaped side and does not look bulbous to me. In my opinion I think he has a nice looking typical typey fila head. Not to houndy, not to mastiffy.

 

[tojvan]

Thanks for the reply mountain, love the insight. I agree with you. I know he is not perfect, but over all he's a great fila except for the V shaped lips. I love his ear set. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I encourage everyone who loves the fila brasileiro breed to speak up and join the discussion. Nobody is bashing anybody for having a different opinion not on this thread. Btw my pups mom has the perfect 1:1 muzzle ratio and "U" shaped lips. Here is a picture

 

[cinnamon roll]

How old is your boy now?

 

[tojvan]

How old is your boy now?

He is 9 months right now cinnamon. i will start a separate thread with his current pictures once i find my Hi definition Camera, don't worry i haven't forgotten about that yet

 

[cinnamon roll]

LMAO. thanks Tojvan!!!! He has gotten big!

He is 9 months right now cinnamon. i will start a separate thread with his current pictures once i find my Hi definition Camera, don't worry i haven't forgotten about that yet

 

[tojvan]

your pup is adorable and gotten so big

I know still growing. so far soo good. He has his dads ear-set and mothers lips/muzzle. Im hoping for the best of both worlds minus the drawbacks lol I'll post pictures of him soon and get your guys critique of him and how hes developing.

 

[mountainfila]

View attachment 30342Thanks for the reply mountain, love the insight. I agree with you. I know he is not perfect, but over all he's a great fila except for the V shaped lips. I love his ear set. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I encourage everyone who loves the fila brasileiro breed to speak up and join the discussion. Nobody is bashing anybody for having a different opinion not on this thread. Btw my pups mom has the perfect 1:1 muzzle ratio and "U" shaped lips. Here is a picture

dont worry no bashing out of me, i was just asking a question about the v lip thing, i think its a buncha bull pucky, thats why the first mention was of the lips as its a sign of mix breeding but if you look at quite a few kennels that breed to the cafib standard you will see the v lip, so that is why i was questioning it. I think its quite funny that you show a black fila with a u lip hahahahaha just goes to prove my line of questioning.