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Resource Guarding - Help!

MSW

New Member
So I'm having a troubling problem. Hoping you all can help.

Ivy has had problems with resource guarding since very, very young ... the first week we had her home, she went "mad dog" on me over a pile of regurgitated food. Since then the behavior has occurred once every few weeks or so - over chew toys, dead squirrel, dead rabbit, plastic bottle that she was ripping to shreds, and most recently over a kitchen doormat that she was chewing and her outside bed (more details on this coming, don't want to describe every incident to death but just give the big picture).

Ivy's breeder had warned me that her mother had serious resource guarding issues with food at about 6 months of age. This developed into an issue where she would guard the area in the kitchen where she was fed and not allow anyone to walk by. They ended up sending her to a boarding trainer who kept her 2 weeks and worked with her, then worked with her on a daily "outpatient" basis for another week. Since then I think her mother's problems have not recurred.

Since we knew this to be a problem with some TMs, and since we knew the family history, we've kept an eye on it from the beginning. We have almost exclusively hand-fed her (all members of the family). We consistently drop treats when we walk by as she is chewing on a chew toy and we play "trade" where we take away the chew toy and give her a treat, then give it back. We don't allow her to keep toys around in the kitchen except for a few stuffed toys that stay in her crate. When we give her toys to play with (like a tug of war toy) we take them and put them away after we are done playing. We generally practice things like "sit and wait" at every door, and we enter/exit first, and we don't step over her when she's lying in the way - we move her. She has very few privileges in the house - never on the furniture, and she is only allowed in the kitchen when we are not directly supervising - she does not have the run of the house. Kitchen with open crate at night when sleeping, and crated or in her fenced yard when we are not at home. In the evenings she is in the living room with us but leashed and downed on her settle mat - we are also having problems with her getting along with our older dog but that is a separate issue, so both dogs are leashed when they are in the same room together (we're working with a trainer on our older dog's behavior).

Today, I was out in her fenced yard with her, picking up old chew toys and generally cleaning up. I noticed a piece of black canvas and went to see if it had come off her bed, which she has been chewing on (canvas bed on a metal frame). As soon as I approached the bed and started to touch it, she came at me growling. I grabbed her collar and told her NO, and told her to sit (which she did). Then I put her in a down (she did not want to lie down so I tugged her collar but once I did that she went easily into a down and stayed there). I*m not sure if this is the right or wrong thing to do, but I then went and picked up a new treat I had just brought out for her (plastic bottle with small treats inside to keep her busy) because I didn*t want her to be rewarded for this behavior. She tried to follow me and I turned around and told her NO again, and she went into a down and stayed there. I went over and sat on her bed and she laid there with head on paws looking at me but did not react. Not sure if I should have done that. I was not trying to provoke her, but rather remind her who the boss is in the household (not her) and that if I want to touch her bed, she needs to allow it.

So, obviously this is going to be a problem with Ivy. We need to nip it in the bud and I am not sure I am handling things correctly. It*s very upsetting because I absolutely love this dog, but we must get this behavior under control. My kids are able to handle her now (and we always keep the martingale collar on so that we can grab it and subdue her) but she is getting very big very fast, and I'm not sure that she will always be able to be handled by my youngest.

Any help VERY much appreciated. Thanks. :)
MSW When each of our TMs were pups unaccepted behavior got each of them rolled over onto their backs and lain upon-creating a submissive posture
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
Please don't alpha roll your dogs, all it does is show you're the bigger bully and you won't be able to back it up once they get even a little bit bigger....
 

mountainfila

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I never did understand the "find it" DennasMom is talking about but I will.be starting that with a good hotdog starting tomorrow. Thank you

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I teach the find it command by throwing kibble in front of them so it hits the floor and they can see and hear it hit the floor and say find it good dog, then i start throwing over their head and they can hear it drop behind them and when they start looking for it, i say find it, when they do it they get good dogs and then repeat, it should only take a few times for him to catch on. When my crew looks bored i grab a handful of kibble and throw it into the living room floor and say find it, keeps them busy using their noses for a few mins lol and gives some mental stimulation
 

babyjoemurphy

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I just did "find it" with yummy treats and Linc loves this game.
I havent been able to start it due to household chaos. Funny how fast they clue in

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cbwardco

Member
Hey so Betty Bear has pretty much gotten over the food guarding (still has some occasional high value bone guarding around the vacuum cleaner but...hey. what dog doesn't hate the vacuum? I kind of have to give her that one). But what to do about VOMIT guarding!? Not that she pukes all the time, but once in a while she will eat something too fast or it won't sit right and she'll puke, but OH my GOD is she satanic about it.

Have tried to distract, have tried to trade (She absolutely doesn't care about treats if she isn't in the mood. Nor raw chicken. Nor steak. Nothing), she is STEADfast and immediately goes way deep into that lizard brain, wolf-like behavior. And the problem is, then, often the vomit is somewhere that it really can't stay so I need to get her off of it and cleaned up ASAP.

This has been a tough one. Has led to some intense situations.

Curious how people deal with this.
 

Hector

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Hey so Betty Bear has pretty much gotten over the food guarding (still has some occasional high value bone guarding around the vacuum cleaner but...hey. what dog doesn't hate the vacuum? I kind of have to give her that one). But what to do about VOMIT guarding!? Not that she pukes all the time, but once in a while she will eat something too fast or it won't sit right and she'll puke, but OH my GOD is she satanic about it.

Have tried to distract, have tried to trade (She absolutely doesn't care about treats if she isn't in the mood. Nor raw chicken. Nor steak. Nothing), she is STEADfast and immediately goes way deep into that lizard brain, wolf-like behavior. And the problem is, then, often the vomit is somewhere that it really can't stay so I need to get her off of it and cleaned up ASAP.

This has been a tough one. Has led to some intense situations.

Curious how people deal with this.

I do not deal with a vomit guarder, but you should train the dog a place command. It can be a specific bed, rug, etc. Tell the dog no and leave it if the dog knows it and redirect them to place. If you practice leave it and place commands (on leash and then off leash and then long line) and then proof it, the dog should more likely than not comply to your commands.
 

Penelope's Mom

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My boxer mix guards his vomit. Usually he guards it because he wants to eat it again. I finally have him to a point where he'll leave it but I have to tell him several times before he'll walk away.

Hope that wasn't too graphic. :D