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Relation and Health Testing

Hank is damn near through the bathroom wall lol. That all happened when I was working in the welding shop everyday though. He had free time unsupervised. We've come a long way in training and he's a bit more mature now.

We will find out. It says that usually the larger the breed the later the first heat. That it could be anywhere from 6 months up to 24 months. Maybe I'm dreading it so much I'm just over reacting. One the bitches across the street is due for a heat soon. So maybe it's just that.

Roxy's ma lil baby girl though she can't be having heats and stuff already damn it! lol
 
Well, confirmed tonight it is indeed Jill from across the street that is going into heat (phew). But I'm not totally out of the water yet. Jill's first heat I believe was caused by Martha's heat. I'm hoping this doesn't happen and when I go over to let Jill out for pottie and guarding from the boys, Roxy will be staying at home lol.
 
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Iymala

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Just be very vigilant if you are not purchasing a crate. It can literally take place in a minute or two while you are looking awayn

Not to mention, $200 (or less if you can find used) is a drop in the bucket compared to a pregnancy and litter. I will have spent over $1500.00 on this accidental litter and everything that could go right did. If she needed a c-section....or worse an emergency c-section....it would add thousands....if she didn't nurse naturally...it would have been hundreds...close to $500 just in formula.

I know you are considering breeding, and doing it right. It will be thousands to do so. And to really do it right, you should at least put some titles on your dogs too, obedience, agility, conformation, etc.

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Boxergirl

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And to really do it right, you should at least put some titles on your dogs too, obedience, agility, conformation, etc.

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I absolutely agree with this. I think it's great that you're doing the research before deciding to breed. But just having two healthy, attractive, nice dogs isn't enough to warrant breeding them, IMO.
 

Liz_M

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Not to pile on, but I agree as well. Hank is undeniably gorgeous (although I'm not savvy enough to know how close to the ideal standard he is) but from the pedigrees posted, your dogs come from a line of pet dogs, so probably no health records.


I know a few people who show/work and breed the occasional litter (Briards, Malamutes, field spaniels) and each of these people were heavily "into" dogs getting titles and such for many years, then spent a lot of money on very worthy pups for breeding purposes. Usually with an experienced kennel/breeder as a mentor. And then spent literally thousands and thousands of dollars putting titles on the dogs and doing health testing before even thinking about breeding....and sometimes the "worthy puppy" doesn't turn out to be all that, so doesn't (or shouldn't) be bred.

My Briard friend imported a gorgeous puppy bitch from Canada but was never able to finish her in conformation, although she did put many obedience and agility titles on her. Decided to breed her anyway through AI - she had frozen sperm kept at a repro vet - for which she paid a monthly storage fee - from some dog who won Westminster. The AI didn't take the first time or two, then it did. She had two litters eventually, first one was a singleton male puppy who IIRC grew too tall for showing, and her second litter was delivered by emergency c-section, three puppies and two of them died early (can't recall why) and she kept the other, which she still has. But she decided that breeding was just too much expense and work; she spayed the bitch and the female pup she kept is "just a pet" family dog now.


I strongly believe in the saying "only breed to better the breed." Putting two nice pet dogs together isn't bettering the breed, even if it results in a healthy litter of purebred puppies.


Go to some dog shows and specialties and pick peoples' brains about how to get and raise a quality pup...you are obviously passionate and I think the more you learn, the more you'll want to learn!