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Presa pup on Craigslist

AKBull

AKBull

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I'm trying not to get bent out of shape over this one.

I come across this ad today on CL.
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Curiosity got me, so I emailed the owner asking why they were rehoming, and where did he come from.
Response back was Virginia, and they are moving and the new place wouldn't allow the dog. Okay. So I do some leg (finger) work, find a breeder in Virginia, that had pups around that age, color, and oh, what's this? One of them was sold to Alaska. http://www.talloakskennel.net/photo3_8.html "Denzel". Sold at around 18 weeks. That's close to 4.5 months, right? So they just got the pup, are moving, and have to "rehome" him.

Here's what I think. They saw a good price on a dog that I've never heard of anyone owning up here (no, I don't know everyone) and I'm betting they are going to be charging an arm and a leg. I did ask them what they are asking for a rehoming fee, but that was after I already asked them if the dog came from that breeder... Might have shot myself in the foot there. It's been awhile and they haven't reponded back.

I don't mean to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but something smells fishy here. You don't invest in a dog like that, ship it here, then move the next week.

I emailed the Breeder to see what type of contract they sell their pups under.
 
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masteneo

masteneo

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that is kinda wild. Man its a set up. jk, lol. man i am a huge conspiracy theorist at heart. i can dream up some crazy stuff. so i know what you mean.
 
DDBsR4Me

DDBsR4Me

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Seems fishy to me as well. Hope the pup doesn't end up getting passed around! Maybe the breeder can step in
 
AKBull

AKBull

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Looks like they are selling the dog for 1,500 after they paid 800 for him in VA.

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Recieved a video.

[video]youtu.be/PrU23GyHLLc[/video]
 
AKBull

AKBull

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Recieved a video.

[video=youtube;PrU23GyHLLc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrU23GyHLLc&feature=youtu.be[/video]
 
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cwayaustx

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Looks like your intuition was right, great detective work! What a douche!!
AKBull said:
Looks like they are selling the dog for 1,500 after they paid 800 for him in VA.

---------- Post added at 04:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:22 PM ----------

Recieved a video.

[video]youtu.be/PrU23GyHLLc[/video]
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DDBsR4Me

DDBsR4Me

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Yeah- no way it cost them $700 to ship him, so they are purely trying to profit off this poor pup! They even call him "Denzel" in the video.
 
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Jerms

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Whats wrong with making a profit by reselling something? This is America. As long as the dog is not harmed this is how some people earn a living .
 
AKBull

AKBull

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Jerms said:
Whats wrong with making a profit by reselling something? This is America. As long as the dog is not harmed this is how some people earn a living .
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If there was a contract, there is plenty wrong. If you're misrepresenting why you're "rehoming", which they said in the ad, then there is something wrong. It's called defrauding people.
 
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Jerms

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People selling a Dog for 800 dollars probably didnt use a contract-- so I doubt its fraud--just some way to make a few bucks in a crappy economy-- he makes a profit and somebody gets a nice looking dog. No harm no foul.
 
ruthcatrin

ruthcatrin

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cwayaustx said:
Wonder what the breeder would think about the "rehoming" of one of their pups...just sayin
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I think several of us are hoping that the breeder won't be happy. Depending on the contract they might be able to do something.

Feel bad for the poor pup getting shuffled around!
 
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cwayaustx

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Exactly, we all know the guy selling pup don't give two shits about who he sells the dog to as long as he gets his cash, and just because breeder sold pup for only 800 I'd bet there is still a contract. Doesnt sound like a byb having a website and all.
ruthcatrin said:
I think several of us are hoping that the breeder won't be happy. Depending on the contract they might be able to do something.

Feel bad for the poor pup getting shuffled around!
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Jerms

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A guy selling a Presa for 800 dollars is too worried if the dog goes to a second home. Who knows maybe the second home is a great loving home. Think positive!
 
AKBull

AKBull

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Jerms said:
Breeders dont sell dogs for a profit? Do all of them have no morals?
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I can only think you're thinking of the dog solely as merchandise. It's not. It's a living, thinking, breathing entity. One that is possibly being shuffled around wondering who its family is.

Don't get me wrong. If things check out, I am interested in the dog. But I don't like deceitful people. I don't like being lied to. Tell me how it is, at least be honest about it. Hell, at least make your story a little more believable. You bought the dog for 800, it costs.. I don't know, 350 to 400 to ship him up here. Tell me you're looking to recoup your costs and, I don't know, dog food. I'll give you that extra 100. Don't try to make a little bank on a lie. Especially on a living creature. It's not a used car you're flipping here.

And I don't think breeders would be in it if they couldn't make a little something extra. Peoples time is money. I'd pay them for that time. To a point.
It's all personal perception, and so far I don't perceive this all that well.
 
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Geisthexe

Geisthexe

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Jerms said:
People selling a Dog for 800 dollars probably didnt use a contract-- so I doubt its fraud--just some way to make a few bucks in a crappy economy-- he makes a profit and somebody gets a nice looking dog. No harm no foul.
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I know the breeder of Tall Oaks and she sells all her dogs on contracts. If it is her breeding she will take the dog back bc in her contract it states they have to give her first.
AB you need to contact her again to let her know its her litter pup. Beverly would really want to know ..


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sissie20

sissie20

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hey ab im the one whos been emailing you so this guy somehow found out that it was me who made the post of him flipping the poor dog he said he paid 600 to ship the dog up here and there is no contract and that the dog was a great dog i could call bev if i didnt believe him but wether hes flipping or not my whole thing is mastiffs end up in horrible homes all the time because people dont know what training and socialization is and everything ive read on a presa it is mandatory and this guy seems like he doesnt give a rats ass who the dog goes to as long as he gets his money and if that poor dog goes into the wrong hands it could be a bad accident waiting to happen and the dog will be the one to pay the price for it and that will just make it even worse on the presa breed and its sickning
 
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