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Please help me train my 9 week old bullmastiff

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Beast

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I have a 9 week old bullmastiff female. I started training
Right away, she "sits" "comes" and sometimes gives me her "paw".

My biggest difficulty is having her go on the weewee pad no matter how many times I pick her up say no and put her on the wee wee pad it still didn't work.

I started a new method to put her in the bathroom at bed time with her bed and close it off with a small gate with her food available and weewee pads, she pooped in the wee wee pad but she peed on the actual floor which was bad because the pee'd touched her bed. When I put her in he bathroom that 5 feet from where I sleep she starts crying all night long, which keeps waking me up so at 6 am I let her out and put her bed next to mine and she stopped crying.

Please someone help me with this, I need her to bed housebroken and don't want her to have separation axiety.

And my very last question is what is the best dry dog food for her. I hear "orijen" is that true. I'm sorry for all the questions.
 
PrinceLorde13

PrinceLorde13

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Most pups don't have any real badder control until about 12 weeks, I've never used pee pads just house breaking to go outside so I'm not too sure how to help you with that. Everyone seems to find a different way and place to have their dogs at night. Both of mine sleep in their bed at the foot of mine, never had an accident in there, they go out just before bed and first thing when we get up.
 
Smokeycat

Smokeycat

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Personally I would get rid of the pads and take her outside to potty, even in the middle of the night. Regardless of whether you choose pads or not make a really big deal when she goes where you want, ignore wrong place if not caught in the action, and correct if caught.
I used a crate next to my bed until they were trustworthy so that they couldn't potty inside but we're still near me. Can she see you from the bathroom? I found with one of my dogs that as long as he could see that I was still there, even just an arm or foot hanging off the bed he was content and went to sleep.
 
dpenning

dpenning

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Emma is 13.5 weeks and just had her first perfect day yesterday. I can say most of the accidents were because I was not watching her enough in the evening so it seemed like she was getting close for about a week before. Now sometimes when I take her out she doesn't seem to have to go as much because she is making the right choice and using the doggie door.


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season

season

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Take your dog outside to do its business. Don't rely on pads to do a job you should be doing. Get a crate and crate train your dog. At night get up every hour or two and take it out. Keep doing that. Soon they will sleep through the night. During the day if you aren't watching it like a hawk and taking it out regularly then put it in its crate.


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Ginurse

Ginurse

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Beast said:
I have a 9 week old bullmastiff female. I started training
Right away, she "sits" "comes" and sometimes gives me her "paw".

My biggest difficulty is having her go on the weewee pad no matter how many times I pick her up say no and put her on the wee wee pad it still didn't work.

I started a new method to put her in the bathroom at bed time with her bed and close it off with a small gate with her food available and weewee pads, she pooped in the wee wee pad but she peed on the actual floor which was bad because the pee'd touched her bed. When I put her in he bathroom that 5 feet from where I sleep she starts crying all night long, which keeps waking me up so at 6 am I let her out and put her bed next to mine and she stopped crying.

Please someone help me with this, I need her to bed housebroken and don't want her to have separation axiety.

And my very last question is what is the best dry dog food for her. I hear "orijen" is that true. I'm sorry for all the questions.
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Your pup (at this age) doesn't have bladder control. No matter what your training method, she CANNOT control her bladder.

At this age, you bring her out every time she takes a drink of water, eats, or every hour while she is awake. If you crate train her, most likely, she won't go in her cage. Pups need to be taken out a lot, and when I brought my EM pup home, I took him out in the middle of the night, almost every night until he was about three months old.
 
season

season

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Ginurse said:
Your pup (at this age) doesn't have bladder control. No matter what your training method, she CANNOT control her bladder.

At this age, you bring her out every time she takes a drink of water, eats, or every hour while she is awake. If you crate train her, most likely, she won't go in her cage. Pups need to be taken out a lot, and when I brought my EM pup home, I took him out in the middle of the night, almost every night until he was about three months old.
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tmricciuto

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I agree with Season and Ginurse. There is no way she can hold her pee. When we were only going to get one she would be crated in our bedroom but because we got two we have them in crates in the living room and they are fine. The first week or so we room them out twice in the night and then that dropped to just once. Now they can hold it from 7pm to 5am but if we get up we will sometimes take them out.
Mine were in their crate if I wasn't able to watch them like a hawk during the day and if they had an accident I did t make a big deal of it just took them outside. They went out like the others said and if they potties they got a treat and tons of praise. I also associated the phrase go pee while they were going and now they will pretty much go on command.
They are 19 weeks now and we haven't had an accident in almost 2 weeks but they don't have the run of the house. They will walk to the back door if they want to go outside and we are now trying to bell train them.


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Boxergirl

Boxergirl

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I don't like pads. I think they teach the dog that it's okay to eliminate in the house. I agree with Season and Ginurse too. Any accidents that happen are not the pup's accident - they're yours. Either you missed a sign, waited too long, got distracted, or allowed too much freedom too soon. To quote Mad Eye Moody, "Constant vigilance!"
http://www.mastiff-forum.com/member.php/15598-tmricciutotmricciuto, my boxers are bell trained. If you have one that hangs on the door try to teach them to hit it with their nose. I went with my boxers' instincts and let them use their paws. Beat my door all to hell. If they do use their paw, buy a protector to go behind the bell - and maybe on the wall next to the bell. Oliver gets so enthusiastic when he really has to go that he misses sometimes.
 
dpenning

dpenning

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I agree about the pads BG. I had to laugh about the paws on the door. My EM used to gently tap the door knob with her nose. We called it tapping in or out, it was cute and effective. Unfortunately Emma can't reach the door knob so she just jumps up and body slams the door to ask in or out. Gonna have to work on that one. :)

She has been perfect the last two days. She was 13 weeks last Sunday. It is like switch was flipped.

Boxergirl said:
I don't like pads. I think they teach the dog that it's okay to eliminate in the house. I agree with Season and Ginurse too. Any accidents that happen are not the pup's accident - they're yours. Either you missed a sign, waited too long, got distracted, or allowed too much freedom too soon. To quote Mad Eye Moody, "Constant vigilance!"
tmricciuto, my boxers are bell trained. If you have one that hangs on the door try to teach them to hit it with their nose. I went with my boxers' instincts and let them use their paws. Beat my door all to hell. If they do use their paw, buy a protector to go behind the bell - and maybe on the wall next to the bell. Oliver gets so enthusiastic when he really has to go that he misses sometimes.
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Bob Felts

Bob Felts

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My experience is that young Mastiffs don't have a bladder at all. They have a funnel. Wanter goes in the large end, (the mouth) and you have exactly 30 seconds to get them leashed up and outside before water comes out the small end (enough said.) We started by training ours to only go outside. After a week, he would scratch at the door and let us know he needed a quick potty run. We also made sure to get him to do all his business on our walks if at all possible. So, immediately after drinking or eating we would take him out, and watching him like a hawk the rest of the time for any indication that he had to go. If we ignored his indicators that he needed to pee or poop, that was on us. The issue then is that you're sending a mixed message on what is expected, in my opinion. There were times he played us, and simply wanted to go outdoors and chew on sticks, etc. I feel it was better to get worked, then have him using the Oriental rugs as a pee / poop pad.
 
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tmricciuto

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Boxer girl we are making progress with the bells. They hang on the door and Bella will hit them with her nose but Sage hasn't picked it up yet. She will sometimes hit them as she's walking outside and I will praise her like crazy when she does.


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JamieHalverson

JamieHalverson

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dpenning said:
Emma is 13.5 weeks and just had her first perfect day yesterday. I can say most of the accidents were because I was not watching her enough in the evening so it seemed like she was getting close for about a week before. Now sometimes when I take her out she doesn't seem to have to go as much because she is making the right choice and using the doggie door.
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this is so great to hear... I have a 12 week old BM puppy and just thought I was doing a terrible job of housetraining. There's hope, yet!!!:pray:
 
season

season

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I don't rely on a bell to have Solo let him out. I rely on our daily routine.


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Boxergirl

Boxergirl

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I don't rely on the bell either. Relying on the bell would, by definition, mean to be dependent on it. My dogs just aren't automatons that never have to pee or poop outside of their designated times. I'd much rather they have a way to let me know that they can't wait. A bark is for alerting, the bell is when they can't wait to go out. All of my dogs were completely house trained by 10-12 weeks, my EM was trained by 8.
 
season

season

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Boxergirl said:
I don't rely on the bell either. Relying on the bell would, by definition, mean to be dependent on it. My dogs just aren't automatons that never have to pee or poop outside of their designated times. I'd much rather they have a way to let me know that they can't wait. A bark is for alerting, the bell is when they can't wait to go out. All of my dogs were completely house trained by 10-12 weeks, my EM was trained by 8.
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season

season

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What's an automaton? Sounds like some kind of Transformer or Autobot.


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gilles

gilles

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she is still too young you have to be patient. you have to confine her in her own space and take her out quite a bit for few days. in the weekends take her out every hour or when she wakes up from a nap. this way she will learn that she needs to pee outside. it is a pain in the beginning but if you are consistent she will quickly learn . it needs patience dedication and consistency and soon it will be fine. my baby gave me a hard time for 2 weeks at first then all of us in the house put our head into it and he learned in a record time of 2 to 3 days!
at less than a year old i could leave him inside for 12 hours in heavy rainy days without taking him out and he'd hold it.
 
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