New topic NEAPOLITAN

[Duetsche_Doggen]

If I am not mistaken that dog is "world champion."

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---------- Post added at 03:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:40 PM ----------

I found a small breeder of Neo's that I actually like the way they look. I agree a lot of them are so excessively wrinkled it is hard to find one that isn't anymore! These look to be about as wrinkley as I'd want except hers are priced $4000.. That just seems exceptionally high for a dog considering her's are nothing special not champions nothing. Just sound healthy dogs. They've had testing and everything done but still seems a little excessive of an amount for such a small breeder around here. I know they are expensive but I was thinking more 2000-3000 range!

Wow that is alot.....IMO

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

I found a small breeder of Neo's that I actually like the way they look. I agree a lot of them are so excessively wrinkled it is hard to find one that isn't anymore! These look to be about as wrinkley as I'd want except hers are priced $4000.. That just seems exceptionally high for a dog considering her's are nothing special not champions nothing. Just sound healthy dogs. They've had testing and everything done but still seems a little excessive of an amount for such a small breeder around here. I know they are expensive but I was thinking more 2000-3000 range!

Wow that is alot.....IMO

 

[bonesnsasha]

That's what I thought! I think 2000 is a lot as well but I'd much rather pay that and get a healthy puppy than get a cheap one from a BYB but 4000 that is ridiculous!

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Exactly, perosnally I'd still look around to see if you can find anything else, I know these dogs aren't cheap but that's bit excessive.

 

[mightymastiffs]

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Above is just horrible. I PERSONALLY want what they were in the 40's & 50's when the breed was re-born. Before this the Neapolitan was a truly AMAZING dog with no rival.

Ideally if I could breed a good sized Cane Corso along with a Neapolitan it would be just about the same as where they were. Still athletic, majestic looking, on the larger/blocky side, as well as keeping the intimidation factor I believe we would back at a good place for the breed.

Incidentally and slighly askew, the CC is going a bit downhill by a lot of breeders with coloring as well as just the sheer amount of breeding. Total novice people getting into this and it makes me just as sick as does seeing people breed for the wrinkles & dewlap.

 

[bonesnsasha]

THIS would be a neo that I would want.

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Yet these dogs will soon become this......and it makes me sick..

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That second picture that dog looks like it is absolutely miserable met to comment that earlier. Poor thing probably can't even see. Even with shar pae (no idea how to spell that right now) they do surgery to remove some of the wrinkles so the dog can see. That's what looks like needs to be done for that poor boy!

---------- Post added at 03:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:14 PM ----------

Just watched those video clips it looks like he was trying to maybe eat but his wrinkles kept getting in the way lol. These were gorgeous dogs why do that that to them? What was wrong with how they looked to start with!

 

[bonesnsasha]

Just watched those video clips it looks like he was trying to maybe eat but his wrinkles kept getting in the way lol. These were gorgeous dogs why do that that to them? What was wrong with how they looked to start with!

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

The dog is from Cadabom Kennels suprisingly this dogs appeared to have sired quite a bit of litters........Thankfully it seems as if these people and their program are "shut down" Don't know what happened to this dog, though.

 

[Jeri]

That's just a shame! I don't think Camo is going to be excessively wrinkled. What do you think?

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Camo looks very nice whats best no visible haws, might grow up yo be like Mikey.

 

[bonesnsasha]

Camo is gorgeous I think my favorite is his coloring! He doesn't look like he'll have a butt ton of wrinkles either. Not now anyway! He's so stinkin cute!

I really hope they were shut down. Poor dogs I hope that dog found a better life and hopefully with someone who will take care of those wrinkles properly!

 

[NeoBull]

I don't think Camo will be too overdone looking, it will be fun to see him mature

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Wow, the Cadaboms Neo is just freaky, poor thing looks so unhealthy!

 

[NeoBull]

Wow, the Cadaboms Neo is just freaky, poor thing looks so unhealthy!

 

[Jeri]

Wow, the Cadaboms Neo is just freaky, poor thing looks so unhealthy!

I'm with you NeoBull! First thing I'd do for that poor guy is find a doggie plastic surgeon & get rid of the majority of the excess!

 

[Cody]

Above is just horrible. I PERSONALLY want what they were in the 40's & 50's when the breed was re-born. Before this the Neapolitan was a truly AMAZING dog with no rival.

Ideally if I could breed a good sized Cane Corso along with a Neapolitan it would be just about the same as where they were. Still athletic, majestic looking, on the larger/blocky side, as well as keeping the intimidation factor I believe we would back at a good place for the breed.

Incidentally and slighly askew, the CC is going a bit downhill by a lot of breeders with coloring as well as just the sheer amount of breeding. Total novice people getting into this and it makes me just as sick as does seeing people breed for the wrinkles & dewlap.

Can't agree more.
Although you can see plenty of Neo x Corso crosses out there, unfortunately they still do not resemble the dogs of 40 years ago... I still would take that combo any day over the Corso x Bullmastiff and Corso x Boxer crosses you see in so many kennels. ( no offense to the BM ppl, I like them, just not when they are called Corso)
Still on my Mastino Italiano holy grail of finding that mythical dog, be it called a Neo or Corso I really don't care...

 

[NeoBull]

Don't forget to let us know when you find it!!!

 

[LadyDogLover]

$4000.00 is exceptionally high.

 

[mightymastiffs]

$4000.00 is exceptionally high.

This # might be higher than many would WANT to spend, but to me it would be a bargain for the right dog. A dog is not a 6-month thing, it SHOULD be a 10+ year one. Though I agree that $4k might be out of many's budget, if I knew that the breeder needed to charge this to ensure that the breed progresses properly and the health of the dog is paramount to them then I would pay it without batting an eye.

I will say that generally breeders who inflate the cost of the dogs are often times the one's who are doing little for the actual dogs. For any owner who really cares it will be very obvious as to the true intent of the breeder.

 

[bonesnsasha]

I wouldn't mind spending it but I think they just inflate the price to see if they can. They are a small time breeder and while they have dogs in perfect health with amazing results on all testing it still seems like a lot. I've seen a couple others sites and conversed a little with other breeders and they all have amazing dogs who score fairly well on the health testing and aren't nearly as highly priced. Thing is their dogs have a little more wrinkle than I like in the breed.

However I've also found a couple good corso breeders I've been looking into.

We'll see how this all goes. I've got plenty of time to look into the breeds and find an amazing breeder!

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

I fell terrible for that poor Neo! What are those people thinking It is a shame as I don't think there is anyway for that dog to be happy with all those wrinkles. I would be having some serious nips and tucks done on that guy .

4000.00 does seem a little excessive to me for any dog (unless you are buying a fulling trained dog that has health screenings done and then you will usually pay much more than that) but I have more of an issue with breeders selling breeding rights to every dog and not worrying about them once they get their money and all of a sudden there are a ton of breeders everywhere selling puppies at top dollar I also found that there are vets that are more than willing to help if you are interested in doing the right thing for the breed and giving a break to breeders who are doing the health screenings, annual check ups/needles, puppy care, etc.

There are some good corso breeders but there are twice as many that are more concerned about the $$ than anything so research is a must with the breed.