Maybe food aggression with my dogocanario

[Nemanja]

Okey, so i have 17 month old presa canario and he is love of my life, before him i have pitbull. My canrio is very very attached to me and he is ok with other people, he don't allow other people to shake hands with me over him... but if you show hands first to him than is ok He is ok with my brother and my girlfriend, and with all dogs who don't show aggression to him... he like to play. He never bite any dog, usually all small dog bite him and he just stand over them and watch them.

But my story begins before 2 months when i give him to the gay who called himself "dog handler" to learn him to walk and posing in the ring for shows, and after 24 days i go back to take him and bring him home. When i came, first thing that i notice is that somehow something with my baby dog is different... but i think that is because i left him before that we are sleeping together, and we are sleep together from day one when he has 3months.

When we came home i give him and me of course nice bath and some food, and we go to sleep, but he dont want to come with me in the bed, he got o sleep in another room all alone and boom after two days he pinch me or nibble me when i give him food and after i said to him give me a kiss (i always said this to him before i put his bowl to eat) and i was shocked but ok not big thing i said to myself. But couple days after he try another time to nibble me when i try to put bowl on the ground and this time he was somehow very serious . I grab him with my hands around his neck and yell at him, that is enough, calm down... and with some bones is same thing like his guarding , like i want to take it from him.

So i try to get some advice from other friend and the gay who owns the kennel, all in all this motherf...er is probably 99% using shock collar and starving him and now my baby have developer food aggression.

For this last month we are prosper very much, i now leave him food, give him to eat from my hand, hi look my much better, he dont want to leave my side, and that is old him but sometimes like this couple days he wont to eat so i need to please him , like with some child to eat .

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mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi">And now and now it happened to me when I dropped him a piece of bread that he didn't want to eat to jump on me and growl, and grab him on his neck and yell at him, after that hi wants to kiss me, truing to touch me with his paws... like now he wants to be dominant or i dont know

 

[glen]

Okey, so i have 17 month old presa canario and he is love of my life, before him i have pitbull. My canrio is very very attached to me and he is ok with other people, he don't allow other people to shake hands with me over him... but if you show hands first to him than is ok He is ok with my brother and my girlfriend, and with all dogs who don't show aggression to him... he like to play. He never bite any dog, usually all small dog bite him and he just stand over them and watch them.

But my story begins before 2 months when i give him to the gay who called himself "dog handler" to learn him to walk and posing in the ring for shows, and after 24 days i go back to take him and bring him home. When i came, first thing that i notice is that somehow something with my baby dog is different... but i think that is because i left him before that we are sleeping together, and we are sleep together from day one when he has 3months.

When we came home i give him and me of course nice bath and some food, and we go to sleep, but he dont want to come with me in the bed, he got o sleep in another room all alone and boom after two days he pinch me or nibble me when i give him food and after i said to him give me a kiss (i always said this to him before i put his bowl to eat) and i was shocked but ok not big thing i said to myself. But couple days after he try another time to nibble me when i try to put bowl on the ground and this time he was somehow very serious . I grab him with my hands around his neck and yell at him, that is enough, calm down... and with some bones is same thing like his guarding , like i want to take it from him.

So i try to get some advice from other friend and the gay who owns the kennel, all in all this motherf...er is probably 99% using shock collar and starving him and now my baby have developer food aggression.

For this last month we are prosper very much, i now leave him food, give him to eat from my hand, hi look my much better, he dont want to leave my side, and that is old him but sometimes like this couple days he wont to eat so i need to please him , like with some child to eat .

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mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi">And now and now it happened to me when I dropped him a piece of bread that he didn't want to eat to jump on me and growl, and grab him on his neck and yell at him, after that hi wants to kiss me, truing to touch me with his paws... like now he wants to be dominant or i dont know

Firstly please stop grabbing your dog around his neck and shouting at him, your very lucky hes not bit you harder, your showing aggression to the dog, you wont get anywhere training your dog this way. Please dont take your dog anywhere near the so called trainer, aand in my opinion shock collars are cruel especially if you use them wrong and especially how he has used them, he sounds cruel and shouldnt be anywhere near a dog.
You sound like you live your dog, youve just been given some bad advise.
You need to build a bond with your dog again, start training the basica again, sit, stay, here ect, use treats he will get used to taking food off you snd praise him a lot,
You can turn this around, but youve got to be patient. No shouting, stay calm,

 

[Nemanja]

Its not pleasant situation when presa jump on you, even when we playing and not when he jump on you and showing his teeth

We often playing and he jump on me and I always grab him by the neck, and he starts shaking his head ... like when he grabs something and starts shaking... so this is similar situation except i tell him louder to stop, to hear me, to calm his emotions, because it's like he's experience some kind of flash and he doesn't know where he is and who I am. It's not that I'm yelling something hysterical now. I let him bit me since he were little when we play, sometimes i bite him for his cheek , and as soon as he bites me a little harder, I shout little bit lauder as if it hurts ... so he knows where the limit is. Now he is a big dog, so it always hurts , especially when he knocked in me when he runs toward me, or when he throws himself at my girlfriend when he plays with him

I taught him all the commands on cookies and sweets.
From come, stop, sit down, lie down, to paw, to point his muzzle at my palm when I tell him show me, to come between my legs and sit down, to give a kiss.
But now when I give him some chewing bone or something similar he takes it and goes away from me, and sometimes he plays with it, he throws it and then he lies down and starts biting, and he lets you to walk around him but when you extend your hand towards him he stops chewing and looks at your hand and he wants to bite you.
It's like he's overwhelmed with emotions and then he doesn't know what he's doing ... he's never been hungry I and when he doesn't want to eat I chase him and shove food in his mouth


Until recently, I wanted to buy an shock collar (but only to use sound and vibration), but more out of some precaution, because when we walk through the woods, it is not on a leash.
and sometimes people come to us and he always stops and waits for me when he sees someone approaching us, but sometimes something passes or I hear a vehicle coming and I tell him to stop, wait for me but he doesn't listen to me and instead of stopping he just slows down ... and then I wanted to whistle or vibrate. he stops when I yell at him ... but now I don't know how smart it is to buy and use on him


He is very smart, and it is very difficult to separate me from him, and I cannot accept that he can bite me, my brother or my girlfriend because of some food or stupid treats... something that i give it to him.

Now the situation is much better, its improved a lot since I took him from this idiot... and I understand that I need to earn his trust again (especially because hi is presa and he presa trust no one) and I probably deserve to be bitten by everything he went through with this idiot because of me. I have luck because i didn't give him when he have 7 months, he will kill his character and i never relay know my best friend. I don't want to give up on him, I just don't want anyone to be harmed in the process

 

[Nemanja]

her is some pic of my dogo when we are driving, sleeping, resting, waiting for treats, playing

 

[glen]

He is stunning.
You can do this, you love him youve just had bad luck with someone that clearly doesnt know how to train dogs.
I really would stop the rough play, he is coming right on the age where they test a lot, his hormones are raging, he doesnt see it as being aggressive, you said its what youve always done, hes just got bigger and hurts more. And who knows what this man as done,
When you want to take something from him, use something to get his attention, whether thats a toy or a treat, get him to come away from it, then praise. These mastiffs love attention, and everyone as got to use the same routine. It will probably take some time hes an older dog now, i did this when mine was 12 weeks old, but dont just rush in there or walk round him, hes going to be already watching your behaviour and hes ready for your next move, so get his attention first, get him to come to you.
The walks, if he doesnt always listen he shouldnt be let off, get a strong training lead so hes always on a lead the keep telling him to come back, i use the word here, if he doesnt come back your still in control with him on the lead, iv spent hours on recall, its one of the most important parts of training, keep doing it over and over. Every day do training, yes it takes a lot of your time but its well worth the end result,
At 18 months mine changed, the get more gaurding, they think they know best, they test the boundaries, what youve got to do is set those boundaries, calmly and persistent. Stop rough play, find something he really loves to get his attention, set meal times for him, and stick to a routine.
And the people on here are great always helpful .
Hes a stunning boy, you can change this.

 

[Nemanja]

Well this might be little complicated, "rough play" is something like our thing . When he wants to play or run and we are at home, and i ignore him of course he came and take mi one of my slippers and run away from me and he wait that i came and tray to take it back, and he trying to run away from me... of course with my slippers or when we are out he will tray to take of my sneakers and he is very persistent, or he will jump around me or ion me and he will give me those little bites with his little front teeth, and that tweaks is really annoying, or he go on my elbows... ohh boy he really like this . And then i get up, i little chaise him, he runs, we have little wrestling class (that all lasts 10min maybe) and then he lies down and is game over
I give him two meals one in the morning after walks and second in the evening after we came back from our 3-4km walk, sometimes run and bark on something when we stop to rest a little bit, i always make sure he doesn't get too tired, because of his hips and elbows, and that's why we always walk him on soft surfaces. In the morning it is combination of dry and wet food 450-500gr, and in the evening that is usually some potato 300-400gr and raw meat about 1kg total
But as the great heats are now weaker he eats and is not something hungry for sure (he is a little spoiled for shure) we walk in the morning very early 05.30h and after 19.00h, and in the meantime is in an apartment with air conditioning

I don't know if this is testing me, I read that some races are constantly trying to take on the role of "alpha" ... I don't know if this is the case with them as well. That's why I always pet him, scratch him, kiss him ... although I don't think he's a pet dog but I like to think he's a little baby

How you think that i need to set up boundaries with him, what should that implies.

And sorry for my English... if I dont write something correctly

 

[glen]

What i mean with rough play is to stop it before it gets too rough, if it escalates a small nip might get a big nip. My middle one pinches my slippers, its his game, but i wouldnt allow the nip. So try and do the play but not allow the nip. But he does have to learn he cant wlways get his own way, its your terms. They are big puppies, but they are also strong in strength and mind. Playing with him is fine but youve got to have the control to be able to stop him if need be.
I play tug with mine, but if i say leave and enough they stop instantly, and if a child picks there tug ropes up they wont touch them, thats with persistant training of leave it and enough, so thats the training id do,
My boys are 8 6 and 5 i still train ever day on walks ect, its keeps there brains active not just physical.
So get a toy what he likes, play then say leave it, when he does really praise him, repeat until he gets what you want him to do.
They can change as they mature, you need to apply as much training now.

 

[Nemanja]

Yes Yes, i do that and he listen to me. Though i need some times to repeat few times to stop when we are playing a little longer and when he gets carried away with the game, but he always obey.
And when he play with some toy mostly it’s that ball from rope and when he starts shaking his head and throwing it around the apartment, or when he starts biting his stuffed doll... i tell him to throw that and he immediately stop and leave his toy.
I will take your advice and listen to it, because this is my first time meeting this breed and I want to listen to more experienced people.
As i said before, i used to have a pit bull but he is totally some other story... and whoever tells me that pit is dangerous dog... let him take the canary and see what is serious breed

 

[Nemanja]

And yes, he sleeps most of the day ... mostly he naps or sleep, it's been like this since he was little... I hope it's normal with them