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Kazmaier's Mom just passed

Milton Meathead

Milton Meathead

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I never knew her as a pet. She is the mother of my baby boy and she was just a few weeks shy of her 5th birthday. The breeder that I got Kaz from just woke up one morning and she was found in her crate and had passed away. She was fine the night before and nothing unusual noted. She thinks it could have been bloat and did not notice because they were all asleep. This is the 2nd dog she has lost this year to bloat and the 3rd pet dog this year that she has lost all together. It has not been a good year for her. Her boxer died of heart failure in April, then her German Sheppard that she got just after her boxer passed had died from bloat now Kaz's mom! I can't help but fear that Kaz may not live a good long life..how do you avoid such a thing? My breeder took all percautions to avoid this deadly killer. She is a great person and loves dogs. She takes in rescues ALL the time and has helped rehabilitate many many dogs and rehome them. This is a very sad time for her. RIP Sambuca
 

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Bailey's Mom

Bailey's Mom

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Very sad for your breeder, especially since it's the third time in a year. I don't understand how this happens, but I know it's a killer. Was she able to give you any idea of what you could do to avoid this problem with Kaz? Is there any evidence that there is genetic link or liability beyond having deep chested dogs?
 
Duetsche_Doggen

Duetsche_Doggen

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ewlizbat said:
Very sad for your breeder, especially since it's the third time in a year. I don't understand how this happens, but I know it's a killer. Was she able to give you any idea of what you could do to avoid this problem with Kaz? Is there any evidence that there is genetic link or liability beyond having deep chested dogs?
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Bloat is still yet not understood completely, even doing the "right" things does not guarantee your dog won't bloat. Although its most common in large breeds ( my breed being #1) small breeds can also bloat. The two times my dog bloat he had been doing none of the above mentioned for bloat causes. The best thing one can do like Deb posted above was know the symptoms and get your dog to a vet ASAP.
 
Milton Meathead

Milton Meathead

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Thanks for the link. My breeder had suggested to feed frequent meals through the day not one big huge meal...and to not let them get to active for at least an hour afterwards.
 
Milton Meathead

Milton Meathead

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I also read in the link that bloat in first degree relatives like a sibling or parent can increase your dogs chance of being prone to bloat by 63 percent!! Now I'm terrified that my boy will be prone to having this condition. I pray this is not the case :(
 
DennasMom

DennasMom

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Our first dog - a 190lb Rott/GSD/Pyrn mix - was initially diagnosed to have died from bloat.
We didn't believe him and had an autopsy done.

We took him to the vet because it looked like he'd had a stroke - eyes wouldn't focus, couldn't stand, just looked totally stressed and out of it... he stayed with us with enough gumption to help us get him to the car - my husband and I got a towel under his gut and he walked while we tried to carry him around the yard (to avoid the front stairs), all the way to the car. The vet is 2 blocks away. As soon as we got there and got the vet to come to the car, he let out his last breath.

The autopsy showed it was NOT bloat. It was cancer.... everywhere... organs, lungs, lymphs... everywhere. Vet said he basically had total system failure - but not bloat.

I don't know what the odds are that an empty stomach will flip over-night... but I would want more details.

Did the breeder get autopsies done, or did she just assume it was bloat?
I would think she - and the owners of all her puppies - would want to know!
 
Milton Meathead

Milton Meathead

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Thanks Deena. Her and I had a long discussion about this and after speaking with her, she has her doubts that is was even bloat. She was fine the night before when she put her to bed and never heard her at all through the night and I know that when a dog has bloat, they are very restless and uncomfortable so she is sure she would have heard something if that were the case but she heard nothing. She woke the next day and she was already cold and stiff so she must have passed in the beginning of the night. She never did take her for an autopsy because it was a Sunday (in my opinion, a lame excuse) and laid her to rest in the backyard. Now you bring up some very valid points about the cause and me as owning one of the puppies wanting to know more? Mom was heart certified and at her last exam, her heart was perfect so we know it was not that. She thought maybe an aneurism perhaps? I am not sure if she thought maybe Cancer but that is a good point and I never thought of that. I think I will be speaking more to her about this. I doubt there is much I can do now though as she has already buried Sambuca and I am sure she is not going to want to "dig her up" to look for answers....I only found out the day after she was buried.

Now you got me thinking more about the situation and that's not a bad thing, I just wish there was more I knew. Ill have to talk to her to see if Cancer was ever suspected ??

Thanks for bringing up some great points

DennasMom said:
Our first dog - a 190lb Rott/GSD/Pyrn mix - was initially diagnosed to have died from bloat.
We didn't believe him and had an autopsy done.

We took him to the vet because it looked like he'd had a stroke - eyes wouldn't focus, couldn't stand, just looked totally stressed and out of it... he stayed with us with enough gumption to help us get him to the car - my husband and I got a towel under his gut and he walked while we tried to carry him around the yard (to avoid the front stairs), all the way to the car. The vet is 2 blocks away. As soon as we got there and got the vet to come to the car, he let out his last breath.

The autopsy showed it was NOT bloat. It was cancer.... everywhere... organs, lungs, lymphs... everywhere. Vet said he basically had total system failure - but not bloat.

I don't know what the odds are that an empty stomach will flip over-night... but I would want more details.

Did the breeder get autopsies done, or did she just assume it was bloat?
I would think she - and the owners of all her puppies - would want to know!
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KristinandCianna

KristinandCianna

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Very sorry to hear about Sambuca!!! So sad...As far as bloat goes, I don't know much. But, a couple of people I know have tacked their dog's stomachs, including my mom. Maybe read more about it, this surgery doesn't prevent bloat completely, but, does lesson the chance of it, and supposedly does give you more time to get your dog to a vet and get it taken care of. My mom had her goldens stomach tacked while she was spayed. My girl had an emergency spay due to pyometra, so couldn't do it then, but may have done it while spaying her otherwise..
 
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