GF bought me a Petland EM puppy, have major questions

[spd7143]

Before I get lambasted here, she meant well and didn't know any better until I explained to her the reasons why she should never do that again. Of course, I happened to fall in love with the puppy and there's no way I'd send her back. At least she'll have a wonderful life as a part of my family. I did some quick internet research and see that her listed breeders certainly appear to be a "puppy mill" although the name of the breeder is different than the name of the previous breeder name although the company name and address is the same. QD Kennels in Charm, Ohio. I plan on going back to the pet store and making some inquiries but I wanted to post here in hopes you all can give me good advice or answer some questions for me as I'm sure I'll get the runaround and stonewalling from the store. I currently have a GSD I bought from a reputable breeder and she's been wonderful. Her bloodline and OFA certs were shown to me by the breeder and her parents through great grandparents were all OFA certified good to excellent and I was able to register her with AKC. The paperwork I have on this new puppy I believe says I can't register her and the only info I have on her parents is their weights are handwritten on her paperwork. Although there's not much I can do now even if her parents don't have a good OFA cert, I would still like to know if they have been OFA certified or not and what those results are. Also, I would like to know who her parents are so I can at least have some idea of her bloodline and I'd like to try and get this puppy Sch titled. I had my GSD well on her way to being titled but a divorce ended that path as I was unable to afford her training anymore. Does my not being able to register my new pup mean I can't get her titled? Why would I not be able to register her with AKC? Do I have any legal recourse if the pet store stonewalls me in getting her parents info? My GF says the pet store person she talked to said the parents were OFA certified and that she knows the breeder to be reputable. Any assistance here will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Hiraeth]

Most likely the reason you cannot register her is that her parents are on limited registration with the AKC, or were not AKC registered at all. Not surprising, if she's from a mill. I'm fairly sure unregistered dogs can still get a Sch title.

I don't believe there would be any legal recourse if they don't provide you with the information you're asking for. Read carefully over the paperwork your GF signed, but there's most likely some fine print in there that states no legal action can be taken once the puppy is purchased. You most likely can't even go after them if the puppy has some sort of hereditary defect because of poor breeding, you'd only be able to return the puppy to them. At least, that's how contracts are worded with pet stores in my area. Perhaps yours is different?

The one piece of assistance I can give, if you aren't leaning this way already, is that you insure the puppy now. I would not be surprised, if she's a mill puppy, if the pet store and mill owners are lying through their teeth about the OFAs and health testing they do. If I ever ended up with a pet store/mill puppy, I'd be on the phone with an insurance company within 24 hours.

Good luck trying to get the information you want from the store. I hope they deal fairly with you.

 

[EverythingEnglishMastiff]

Well if you don't have papers saying it's a purebred you might even save some on the insurance costs. I'm glad you taught your gf a lesson about the whole buying a puppy from a pet store deal.

 

[irina]

There are exceptions to all rules, of course, but I do not think that an EM would be suitable for schutzhund. I assume that is what you mean. I considered it with my CC, but he did not have the right temperament. EM from what I understand are even more laid back and independent than CC. plus consider bite work with a 200 lbs dog. I do not envy the helper.

 

[Hector]

Insurance is a great idea!

 

[Oscar'sMom]

There are exceptions to all rules, of course, but I do not think that an EM would be suitable for schutzhund. I assume that is what you mean. I considered it with my CC, but he did not have the right temperament. EM from what I understand are even more laid back and independent than CC. plus consider bite work with a 200 lbs dog. I do not envy the helper.

I second this. I'm not sure they're the correct temperament for this type of training.

 

[Jaszies_dad]

Nationwide pet insurance...

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[Jaszies_dad]

Id demand more info from store, if they sold as a purebred EM they have to provide proof the puppy is a purebred. To include parents info. If they say no id then say ok. I'll let the bbb know about my issue with your store, I'll post to all my social media groups about your store and the problem, ill even join more social media sites just so i can inform other potential customers to beware. If the owners of those parents have a limited akc registration it is most likely because those parents were to be spayed/neutered

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[Jaszies_dad]

Sorry.. First CONGRATS ON NEW PUPPY. I am sure you will have long happy life

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[spd7143]

Thanks for all of your helpful replies. my GF and I both learned from them. I will update this after I speak to the pet store people. She was sold as a purebred but I don't have the paperwork in front of me to intelligently speak about it. As far as shutzhund, I will have to see if she can work up the drive necessary for bite work. To be honest, I'll be happy if she can excel at tracking and obedience and give a half hearted bite work.

 

[twilightzone1981]

If you don't mind me asking, who was the breeder?

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[spd7143]

Sorry for the delay in my reply here but the holidays have been busy. So Lilly's health record supplied says she's a purebred-unregisterable. The sire and dams names are not printed, only their supposed weights are handwritten there. The "supplier" is QD Kennels in Missouri. In doing a little internet research, that kennel has issues though the breeder name is different than what is listed in recent history of that kennel. The lady at Petland was not helpful but I had assumed that was going to be the case after reading peoples replies. I did purchase insurance for Lilly but hopefully we won't have to end up using it. She's still a bit underweight at about 40 pounds at 4 months but we have fattened her up so at least her ribs aren't visible anymore and we have her on a good kibble, TOTW. We will just have to keep an eye on how she keeps developing. She's getting along great with my male Akita and female GSD and mostly gets along with the cats though she occasionally wants to play with the cats like they are big dogs. She's learning the hard way there, lol. All in all, we're very happy with her although I wish the circumstances surrounding us getting her were vastly different.