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Extremely aggressive cane corso! Help!?

Ogre

Member
It probably doesn't need to be written that I'm new to the forum. But yeah, lol. Anyways this is very serious, and before you/anyone wants to go off about not properly raising the dog etc, PLEASE just read the whole thing first.

My screen name is Ogre because that is what we named our dark blue/gray charcoal Cane Corso. He is not the dog I am writing this for help. He is a magnificent mini mastiff (He was the runt and still isn't very big as far as the breed goes, but that's okay, he's our mini mastiff)

I live in the middle of a small city with my boyfriend and now two year old son. We had two cats, two gerbils, and a toy pomeranian and a pomeranian mix. My bf then started working nights and I did NOT feel safe being alone with just my son. So I looked around and around and kept telling him I didn't feel safe and that I wanted a 'a big ugly scary dog' to protect us at night. I understand that I don't need to have an aggressive dog to scare a lot of petty thieves away. As long as it LOOKS and SOUNDS scary is all that is needed, but an actual protective dog was definitely a bonus!

I was telling this to my younger brothers best friend when they all came over for something or another. He then told me that his girlfriend's mom breeds the HUGE italian mastiff's and that she was giving a litter away for free. Well, I didn't know what the hell an italian mastiff was but I wasn't going to argue with the words MASTIFF and FREE. lol.

So I then looked it up and researched extensively about italian mastiff's, which I also found were better known as cane corso's (derr, but brothers friend is a dork) It sounded like a lot of work, but I was willing to try. The breeder told me that I had two weeks to research and she would quiz me before she would even give me a puppy! I was felt that she must really know her stuff so I agreed.

Fast forward to the day I get to pick my puppy (potentially, if I pass the test). They tell me to stand outside on the sidewalk so they can bring the dad of the litter outside to let me see him. My brothers friend was telling me how big this dog was. But I did NOT BELIEVE HIM! At all!!!! This dog is absolutely enormous! He looks as if he could take a great dane and pick his teeth with it! lol! When he barked I felt it through the ground and up my legs and he was almost 20 feet away. I was definitely terrorized, but at the same time, I was thinking I would love to have one of those protecting my baby.

They took the mom and the dad in to another room (for my protection. Scary? YES it was.)

There were three or four bouncing romping puppies that eagerly greeted me as I walked in to the room they were kept in. None really made me feel when I looked at them that they would make a good member of the family. Then I noticed the darkest colored one in the litter, also the smallest, just laying on his belly looking all sad with his head between his paws. What can I say? My mommy senses kicked in right away and I picked him up (he was barely two months old and 20 lbs!) and he rested his little head on my shoulder.

I was sold. There was no way I was leaving without that little pup haha.

The puppies already had their tails docked and their dewclaws removed and their first round of shots/first worming. But she was telling me that maybe I might not want the runt because he already had a hard start in life. He has an umbilical hernia (the breeder told me from the mom pulling the cord off too rough when he was born), he almost died from not having enough milk because the other puppies crowded him off the boob. So she had to bottle feed him some, then he almost died from the worms, got him through that, then he was just a touch skinny cause they crowded him away from the food. Poor little guy!!! I still wanted him haha

Anyways, that is now our Ogre. Or 'Oyer' as my two year old pronounces it lmao. More often though we call him the Ogie Yogi Bear. He still has problems now at 10 months old. He's not very big as the breed goes, as I already said, and he has terrible food sensitivity and dry skin. But he's still our big stinky Ogre.

Anyway my mom ended up getting another puppy from the litter. And now he, Blue, is VERY VERY AGGRESSIVE. He's fine for just her household but I can't even walk in without the dog barking and lunging at me. Well, okay, they're a protective breed I know and that's what attracted me to the pups in the first place.

I worked with Ogre every day. I talk him for walks in public all the time and at the stores. And when I have him outside on the leash I do not allow him to act aggressively to anyone that walks up or down the street. Needless to say anyone can come in to my house if I welcome them and Ogre is their best friend. But also at the same time if they get close to my son and he is unsure if they are safe or not he will silently stand in between them and my son until I tell him it's okay. Then he backs off and goes and lays down but still watches. I have no doubts that if someone did something to my son they wouldn't be walking back out of my house unharmed. He is also very protective of the house. If someone tries to walk in without me telling him they are okay he growls and will bark until they walk away or I tell him it's okay.

Blue on the other hand is the complete opposite. I just came to her house today and he tried to bite me, for no other reason other than I sat on the couch!? She keeps saying she's going to get rid of him, but no one is going to want him being that aggressive...And she just yells at me when I say she didn't properly raise him or socialize him. Well, she didn't. She didn't reprimand him for barking as a puppy when people walked in. She didn't take him anywhere. He just....I don't know what to do anymore. I don't want to go to my mom's house anymore or for my son to visit because I am afraid of her dog! I just need help and advice cause I am not sure what to do. I also don't want the dog attacking/killing someone and my mom going to jail just because her dog doesn't know when not to be this way!
 

CeeCee

Well-Known Member
That is a tough situation, but it sounds like your mom doesn't have the time or desire to train her dog. If that is the case, I would encourage her to re-home her dog as soon as possible - look for someone who has Mastiff experience and is willing to do the work that needs to be done to teach the pup the boundaries and what is and isn't appropriate. Even better a breed specific rescue. I would want to see the dog re homed before it has a bite history on it.

While the dog is in the home, I think it's best to either meet your mom outside of her house or have her kennel the dog before you and your family come over.

Best of luck!
 

Ogre

Member
Thank you guys for replying, and I agree, you ARE right! But I am not sure who I can contact if it isn't my dog? My mom said she would give him away to a cane corso rescue or someone that has had them before and knows how to handle the mean-ness.

We're about two hours away from Pittsburgh and Erie Pennsylvania and I don't think any specific rescues are near us? Do you guys know?
 

Ogre

Member
LOL @ the best state

I'll get it figured out somehow. I was also thinking of buying him a muzzle for her to put on him when people come over. Like one of the ones he can still open his mouth but the entire mouth area is covered so even if he tried to eat you he could just head butt? I found one online for about 60 dollars and it's leather but I have never bought any kind of dog a muzzle of any sort before so....
 

QY10

Well-Known Member
What about Big Paws, Big Hearts Cane Corso rescue. They are located in Philadelphia. I live in Canada, so I'm not 100% sure how feasible that commute is for you guys, nor am I 100% how long the commute would even be. Google maps is telling me about 4 hours from Pittsburgh. You could contact them about meeting halfway or something?
 

Mag-Pie

Well-Known Member
She keeps saying she's going to get rid of him, but no one is going to want him being that aggressive...And she just yells at me when I say she didn't properly raise him or socialize him. Well, she didn't. She didn't reprimand him for barking as a puppy when people walked in. She didn't take him anywhere.

Sounds like your mom dropped the ball when it came to training, boundaries and socialization, and now she's giving up on him… sad. SMH.

A good pro trainer who's experienced with handling large powerful and aggressive dogs could be of great benefit to your mom. But if she's lacking in desire to keep the dog, the BEST thing to do is try to re-home him ASAP, and preferably find a CC rescue that would take him.

A muzzle might be an idea, in the meantime, BUT someone will have to train him/desensitize him to wearing the muzzle. That will take time, consistency and patience, making the wearing of the muzzle as something positive, not as punishment. Because once you put it on, I'm sure he won't like it. When I got my CC, he also was aggressive (except not with me) and lacked proper training and socialization, and had to wear a muzzle periodically when I was getting him use to my SO in the beginning, and also on walks around the neighborhood and/or meeting new people. He still wears it while doing his group class training, or working one on one with a trainer. He's great with me and my SO now, obedience trained, well behaved, but he does NOT like strangers, and given a chance he will bite. I am aware of the potential liability, and always manage his proximity to anyone. He's a work in progress. Generally, re-homed dogs will come with some "issues", and it takes a lot of hard work, time and patience to "rehabilitate" them. But I knew what I was getting into, and I'm very pleased with the progress he's made over the past 4 months.

I take it the breeder won't take him back, since it was a free puppy? BTW, how old is the dog?

Contacting Big Paws, Big Hearts Cane Corso Rescue is a good idea, at least maybe they can suggest another rescue closer to where you are at… if nothing else.

His aggressiveness will be a problem UNLESS she finds someone who is willing to work with the dog, has the time, knows what needs to be done, and understands that it will take a LOT of hard work.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Unfortunately, mastiffs rescues rarely take an aggressive dog. This is starting to become a familiar story of people who adopt a puppy because it's adorable and cuddly but when they get older and need the training and care to become a healthy pup, the person can't be bothered. Of course, it could also be bad breeding that has caused this possible "bad seed".

Regardless how the pup got to its present state, the pup may hurt someone and then the owner will be sued or jailed (depending on the state) and the dog euthanized.

Like I said, becoming a familiar story... :(
 

Ogre

Member
I will be looking up and trying to contact that rescue today and maybe others if i can find them. I don't think she would be willing to drive even half way to a place, and I can't drive due to epilepsy. That one in philly is really far away. I might have better luck finding one in ohio maybe? But I definitely want him to be able to find someone that understands the breed because my mom always has people coming in and out of her house constantly and it's really only a matter of time. I also don't think I will be buying him a muzzle if it's a lot of work to habituate them to it, cause I know she won't.

but at the same time if rescues don't want them if they are aggressive what else can I do? She is trying to give him away on facebook for 200 dollars and hasn't told any potential 'buyers' his issues.

I really really really don't want anyone to get hurt OR him or any other animals :(
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
If a rescue will not take him and your mom doesn't want to train him correctly for both their own goods, then only option is to euthanize him. Shame on your mom not telling people about his issues. She is opening herself up to a lawsuit.
 

Mag-Pie

Well-Known Member
As much as I HATE the idea of having a dog PTS because of his behavioral problems due to their owner's lax attitude, in this case it may be the best thing... :( Like musicdeb already said, way too familiar story...
 

mountainfila

Well-Known Member
Really, am I reading this correctly , hes 10 months?? PTS is little harsh don't ya think, I could maybe agree if the dog was say 4-6 years old , then maybe if all options had failed and it was quite clear that this dog can not be helped with any type of rehabilitation , then yes PTS would be the only answer. Because the human dropped the ball once again , it up to the human to fix the problem, first thing to do is higher a trainer to evaluate the dog to see how the dog reacts with a trainer that knows what they are doing with powerful breeds, ask to see proof. Most of the time evaluations are free or fairly cheap, so shop around till you find one you feel comfortable with. Its not the dogs fault, so the human must step up and make it right instead of just "getting rid" of the dog, help the dog find a proper home with everything disclosed about his nature, that is a responsible dog owner.

I know its not the OP's dog but it is her mothers and her mother needs her help , so tell your mom your bringing a trainer to evaluate him and do it, she does not know what step to take, for the sake of this young pup, yes he still is a pup at 10 months, take charge of this situation before it ends badly for this pup or for your mother or another visiting relative or yourself, if you don't you may regret it.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Really, am I reading this correctly , hes 10 months?? PTS is little harsh don't ya think, I could maybe agree if the dog was say 4-6 years old , then maybe if all options had failed and it was quite clear that this dog can not be helped with any type of rehabilitation , then yes PTS would be the only answer. Because the human dropped the ball once again , it up to the human to fix the problem, first thing to do is higher a trainer to evaluate the dog to see how the dog reacts with a trainer that knows what they are doing with powerful breeds, ask to see proof. Most of the time evaluations are free or fairly cheap, so shop around till you find one you feel comfortable with. Its not the dogs fault, so the human must step up and make it right instead of just "getting rid" of the dog, help the dog find a proper home with everything disclosed about his nature, that is a responsible dog owner.

I know its not the OP's dog but it is her mothers and her mother needs her help , so tell your mom your bringing a trainer to evaluate him and do it, she does not know what step to take, for the sake of this young pup, yes he still is a pup at 10 months, take charge of this situation before it ends badly for this pup or for your mother or another visiting relative or yourself, if you don't you may regret it.
I agree with you but it doesn't sound like the mom wants to help the dog but sell it for $200. I'm not sure the OP has the power or resources to hire a trainer to help the pup.
 

Mag-Pie

Well-Known Member
Because the human dropped the ball once again, it up to the human to fix the problem, first thing to do is higher a trainer to evaluate the dog to see how the dog reacts with a trainer that knows what they are doing with powerful breeds, ask to see proof. Most of the time evaluations are free or fairly cheap, so shop around till you find one you feel comfortable with. Its not the dogs fault, so the human must step up and make it right instead of just "getting rid" of the dog, help the dog find a proper home with everything disclosed about his nature, that is a responsible dog owner.

^^^ Absolutely! However, when someone has no will nor desire to work with the dog, and is already looking to sell them on FB, without letting people know about his "aggression" problems, then being PTS might be more humane then getting re-homed numerous times, possibly abused in the process, only to be euthanized in the end anyway... Also, it sounds like the OP is sadly not in a position to take charge, as musicdeb already mentioned.
 

AussieGirl

Well-Known Member
I have no advice that hasn't already been given, just want to post to say how sad this makes me feel. Poor dog never had a chance because it was never taught the correct way to behave and now it will probably end up euthanized when it is still only a baby it's self :( I agree that it may be the best option in this situation but that doesn't make it any less heart breaking :(
 

fixitlouie

Well-Known Member
Whoa everybody.!!! ....after reading alot of these post it seems like were throwing dear old mom under the bus. Maby just maby this dog is agression by genetics. All the CC I have cone in contact with were super sweet. Leary of strangers but not violent. Just cuz litter mates aren't same doesn't mean she had no or bad training. It could be just as simple as the dog is a cull.....
 

Mag-Pie

Well-Known Member
Whoa everybody.!!! ....after reading alot of these post it seems like were throwing dear old mom under the bus. Maby just maby this dog is agression by genetics.

Hard to defend "dear old mom" when the OP clearly stated mom has not done the proper training and socializing, and will not work with him now, not even with the muzzle. In this case, from what I've read, I blame her NOT the genetics.