broke through the fence...

[teodora]

so...last night my pack just broke though the metal panel fence in the back yard. We came home from dinner just to find our 3 buggers "socializing" with 2 spooked neighbors - in the poor people's yard. :scared2:
Now... if they break though the metal panel fences, what kind of fortifications and reinforced walls should I provide for the 3 destroyers to keep them at home?! Of course I can crate them (they didn't break the crates yet) but I would prefer to let them have access to the back yard. What kind of mastiff-proof fences do you recommend?

 

[EverythingEnglishMastiff]

TALL. Or at least not one they can squash down. Hank hops a fence like deer though. I have to honestly say I don't own a Mastiff proof fence lol. Mine is 6' chain link. There are no horizontal bars so if he couldn't jump he can still basically just climb over. I basically had to be on his butt and teach him that was a nono. I also had to request the neighbors stop feeding him junk, like cookies and half ice cream sandwiches... THAT helped tremendously.

 

[karennj]

Cant you just block access to outside when your gone?

 

[teodora]

I can block access but it would be sad for them not to be able to play in the back yard...
Jack had one (successful) attempt to jump the front fence (small one) and he got his leg stuck between the fence and the gate. It was quite painful so he probably decided he's not a jumper.
Neos are too heavy to jump, even if Sophia thinks she's a butterfly.

 

[Liz_M]

Ouch! In another thread you posted a great pic of your three on their hind legs at the fence and I recall thinking "yikes, that fence looks flimsy for three really big dogs."


Anyhow, having both big dogs and a previous digger, my 1/4 acre fence is pretty formidable. Front part is wood frame with chain link, sunk a foot below the ground, five feet tall. Back part is a mix of 6' wood privacy fence and 6' chain link and the gate is locked. Pretty much nothing can get in or out of my yard. Well except for possums and other critters that use trees to get from A to B.

 

[Hector]

I can block access but it would be sad for them not to be able to play in the back yard...
Jack had one (successful) attempt to jump the front fence (small one) and he got his leg stuck between the fence and the gate. It was quite painful so he probably decided he's not a jumper.
Neos are too heavy to jump, even if Sophia thinks she's a butterfly.

Don't underestimate your girls!! Neos can be very athletic, well the working old school ones at least are.

 

[teodora]

yep, that was the front yard fence - that is pretty useless, we don't let them there unsupervised. The back yard has a metal high fence and it's fully closed. They managed to pull a panel (I can't imagine how...).
Yeah, I start to understand I just underestimate them... Jack alone would never be able to go through a metal panel!
I have to relocate in a fortress.

And yep, they come from working lines.

 

[DDSK]

Through bolt the panels with large fender washers on both sides, that should make them significantly stronger.
Or drop off treats for your dogs at the neighbors house

 

[teodora]

lol... before i got my head around fencing and stuff, my neighbour reinforced the fence on his side so now the problem is solved... I'm very grateful - i'm not really a builder or DYI fan.... I know this was MY problem created by MY dogs but i guess he was just happy to prevent another invasion lol.

 

[glen]

I would secretly put a hole In your fence If I was your neighbour Id give your dogs back when you got home lol

 

[teodora]

lol! I don't think they enjoyed my dogs so much.... :scared2:ray::scared2:

 

[DDSK]

I wish we had a gate between me and my neighbors. They have an inside dog and an outside dog.
The wife is allergic to their mixed bulldog/husky mix pup so she lives outside while their ill tempered rat dog lives inside and the poor outside pup is so lonely

 

[karennj]

Probably should send some cookies over to the neighbors for fixing it. They must have been pretty scared!

 

[Hector]

lol... before i got my head around fencing and stuff, my neighbour reinforced the fence on his side so now the problem is solved... I'm very grateful - i'm not really a builder or DYI fan.... I know this was MY problem created by MY dogs but i guess he was just happy to prevent another invasion lol.

sounds like a good neighbor or they almost shit themselves!

 

[DennasMom]

My dogs don't get access to the outside when I'm not home for multiple reasons...
Here in suburbia:

1. I don't want neighborhood punks teasing my dogs
2. I don't want my dogs barking at anything and everything and generally pissing off the neighbors (sure wish my neighbors with the yappers shared this desire)
3. I don't want my dogs fence-fighting with the neighbor's dogs (a TM and a big Rottie)... on the side of the yard with the flimsiest fence.
4. I don't want my dogs to escape the yard and be a hazard to themselves or others... even though I can leave the gate wide open and Denna doesn't leave.... I'm sure she could decide following another dog home more interesting than waiting for me to come home on some days...

We have a 6ft cedar fence, and other than the flimsy side (starting to get some rot at the bottom and some boards are starting to come loose), it's in good shape.

 

[teodora]

I understand. My dogs don't get access to the front yard for the same reason: I want to supervise their interaction with people or other dogs, even through the fence. The back yard (approx 1000 mp) is fully secluded, no neighbors on one side and an empty paddock in the back. It's not visible from the street and the only access point is though the house. From my pov, the perfect playground for my dogs, with access to half of the house as well so they can get back inside and eat/drink/sleep or whatever. I never expected them to break the iron panels, though. They're much more sturdy than the main entry door, for example... so I wonder what they can not break when I'm not home, then... (if they really want!)

The back yard (with the damaged panel visible in the background):

 

[Yamizuma]

That's a serious fence! Can't see from the pics how they anchor to posts. My hubs is pretty handy with such things. At the moment I'm thinking they need to interlink better with rivets and possibly metal strapping, but can't make out the structure. We're I your neighbour, I have the funny feeling I'd but trying to convince you to put a doggie door between our yards!


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[teodora]

the fence was reinforced by the neighbor on his side - I can try to put a chain link as well... I've seen what my buggers do: they don't push, they chew and pull the fence.

 

[Yamizuma]

Peel it back like an orange, it looks like. Are they on 4 x4 posts or a thin metal rebar type thing at the seems? Hubs suspects it is a post and rail thing that by the lean of it lacks good supports. Your neighbour might be good with you putting a secondary post and rails on you side with lots of rivets there if you are both happy with the fence line and not likely to dispute boundaries.


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[teodora]

nah we don't dispute boundaries - they're good people, I am sure we can sort it out. They could've thrown my dogs on the street or call the ranger, if they wanted to: at the end of the day, I was at fault...