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Advice needed ie frogs and birds

Nik

Well-Known Member
We have tried relocating our hot tub frog a couple of times now. She keeps coming right back to the hot tub within a day. This is despite us hiking away (fifteen minute walk and down a hill to a very nice stream with lots of coverage and foliage and good eating for her). We release her to this great little natural frog habitat and hike back to the house. By the next morning she has always found her way back.

I am sure she is getting rather frustrated with us but the thing is next week the hot tub guy comes to flush out our tub, clean it and service it and add the new lid on top... Once that happens our tub will be inhabitable for her and we will be using it at temperatures I am sure aren't healthy for a little frog.

Do any of you have any advice? How hard is it to build a frog pond? Would she use a frog pond if we made her one? Is it possible to get one ready for her in less than a week?

If it is relevant I am fairly certain this is a coastal tailed frog and therefore female (because no tail).

Also here are some new cute pics of our little hot tub frog.

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fyi this photo above ^ My husband said "That photo isn't very flattering of her. She is bending her head weird".... I happen to think she is adorable in the photo.

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The other item I could use some advice on.... last night our dogs found an injured bird in the yard. It took some persuasion for them to back off from it. It kept panicking whenever they got to close and it couldn't fly and was limping around on one foot. It would panic when we got too close as well so we let it be as soon as it made it to some brush to hide in.

As of this morning it is still in the yard. Though when we got too close it panicked and found a new hiding spot. We aren't sure exactly where it is now but it is in the yard somewhere hiding again. This morning it was able to fly a very short distant along the ground and it seems to have a mate. The mate flies near us and starts cheeping loudly whenever we get to close to the bird's hiding spot to try to distract us.

We set out a bowl of water in case it can't get to a water source. Should I put out bird seed or something also? Is there anything else I should do to give it a better chance of healing up and making it? I really don't want another dead bird in the yard if I can avoid it. :/
 

marke

Well-Known Member
are you finding them in the water ? I believe that is a tree frog ? when they're out here in the spring and early summer there are thousands of them …… do you hear them in the evening , they're pretty noisy ?
 

Nik

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are you finding them in the water ? I believe that is a tree frog ? when they're out here in the spring and early summer there are thousands of them …… do you hear them in the evening , they're pretty noisy ?

Finding her on the side inside the hot tub and she doesnt make a single sound ever.
 

marke

Well-Known Member
by me they are gray tree frogs , on the west coast they are called pacific tree frogs ……. in the spring they will lay eggs in folks swimming pools ……. I've actually never seen one make a sound either , but in the evening the noise they make can be pretty loud ………….

https://www.fws.gov/refuge/willapa/wildlife_and_habitat/pacific_tree_frog.html


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Bailey's Mom

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I was wondering about eggs...? Did you observe any eggs near her hot tub site...left over water with a special package drawing her back?
 

DenyMcKusker

Well-Known Member
I am not sure what advice I can offer you but I just want to say how wonderful it is to read about absolute kindness and how nature nature sensitive you are. Just really cool. I am big on the wild birds that live around me. I feed them every morning and if I am late getting their food out they start flying around to the difference trees. I know what they are telling me. If it is a large bird I would put a trail-mix like birdseed out. If she is small then just regular seed. The food will help her gain strength. If you see her and are concerned the dogs will get to her then throw a light towel over her allowing you to grab her and relocate her to a safe place. I have a few kiddy pools set up for the dogs. I check the pools at night to see if I need to get them out as I am afraid they won't be able to climb the plastic wall. My dogs don't mess with . They have all figured out what the consequences are. My husband and I bought a home on a small lake in Grapevine TX. We had no idea about frogs. Mark is right ....NOISY!!!! I had to wear ear plugs at night to go to sleep.

Nik, thank you for your kind heart!!! Seriously!
 

Sheila Braund

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We have tried relocating our hot tub frog a couple of times now. She keeps coming right back to the hot tub within a day. This is despite us hiking away (fifteen minute walk and down a hill to a very nice stream with lots of coverage and foliage and good eating for her). We release her to this great little natural frog habitat and hike back to the house. By the next morning she has always found her way back.

I am sure she is getting rather frustrated with us but the thing is next week the hot tub guy comes to flush out our tub, clean it and service it and add the new lid on top... Once that happens our tub will be inhabitable for her and we will be using it at temperatures I am sure aren't healthy for a little frog.

Do any of you have any advice? How hard is it to build a frog pond? Would she use a frog pond if we made her one? Is it possible to get one ready for her in less than a week?

If it is relevant I am fairly certain this is a coastal tailed frog and therefore female (because no tail).




Also here are some new cute pics of our little hot tub frog.

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fyi this photo above ^ My husband said "That photo isn't very flattering of her. She is bending her head weird".... I happen to think she is adorable in the photo.

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The other item I could use some advice on.... last night our dogs found an injured bird in the yard. It took some persuasion for them to back off from it. It kept panicking whenever they got to close and it couldn't fly and was limping around on one foot. It would panic when we got too close as well so we let it be as soon as it made it to some brush to hide in.

As of this morning it is still in the yard. Though when we got too close it panicked and found a new hiding spot. We aren't sure exactly where it is now but it is in the yard somewhere hiding again. This morning it was able to fly a very short distant along the ground and it seems to have a mate. The mate flies near us and starts cheeping loudly whenever we get to close to the bird's hiding spot to try to distract us.

We set out a bowl of water in case it can't get to a water source. Should I put out bird seed or something also? Is there anything else I should do to give it a better chance of healing up and making it? I really don't want another dead bird in the yard if I can avoid it. :/

I think you should just except you have a new family member ...name her Franny and enjoy
Her company :p
 

Nik

Well-Known Member
So we did try once more to relocate her....

This time we researched good areas for frogs and drove over a mile to a wet lands area with a really nice pond.

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My husband did the honors of releasing her.

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Here were our last photos before catching her to relocate.
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And here she is right by the pond.

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Nik

Well-Known Member
I am not sure what advice I can offer you but I just want to say how wonderful it is to read about absolute kindness and how nature nature sensitive you are. Just really cool. I am big on the wild birds that live around me. I feed them every morning and if I am late getting their food out they start flying around to the difference trees. I know what they are telling me. If it is a large bird I would put a trail-mix like birdseed out. If she is small then just regular seed. The food will help her gain strength. If you see her and are concerned the dogs will get to her then throw a light towel over her allowing you to grab her and relocate her to a safe place. I have a few kiddy pools set up for the dogs. I check the pools at night to see if I need to get them out as I am afraid they won't be able to climb the plastic wall. My dogs don't mess with . They have all figured out what the consequences are. My husband and I bought a home on a small lake in Grapevine TX. We had no idea about frogs. Mark is right ....NOISY!!!! I had to wear ear plugs at night to go to sleep.

Nik, thank you for your kind heart!!! Seriously!

Thank you! She seems to have flown off. I still plan to get some birdseed to leave out for our many feathered visitors. I am sad that none of our birds are using the bird bath I put out for them yet. I would have thought with the heat streak we are having they would be in it quite a bit but I guess not. I did get a bird house and a very open bird house that I think will make a better feeder plate than anything else. Of course I do expect our very cheeky squirrels will likely try to steal the seed from the birds. We shall see.
 

Boxergirl

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I hope you've relocated her successfully. If not, perhaps she gets a name and her own hot tub? Lol. I really don't know what I would do. I'd probably not use the hot tub and everyone would make fun of me for being silly.
 

Nik

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I hope you've relocated her successfully. If not, perhaps she gets a name and her own hot tub? Lol. I really don't know what I would do. I'd probably not use the hot tub and everyone would make fun of me for being silly.

Yes so we were looking at how to add a frog pond... And the real dilemma becomes how to add a frog pond that our dogs will not jump into and try to get the tiny jumping frog. I am not sure they would try to catch her but I am also not sure they wouldn't. I am sure they would be very curious and at the least try to sniff her which I doubt she would be okay with. And I know they would try to use the pond as a drinking bowl... which they have also done with the bird bath no matter how often I shoo them away from it and tell them leave it... as soon as my back is turned. I just need a taller bird bath.
 

Jarena

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I was just thinking the same thing, if she comes back this time you might as well name her.

What about building a little picket fence around a pond, just a couple feet tall? It won’t keep your dogs out if they are determined, but it might deter them. It sounds like they aren’t ever left out unsupervised, so it would probably be pretty easy to keep them out of the fence.
 

Nik

Well-Known Member
I was just thinking the same thing, if she comes back this time you might as well name her.

What about building a little picket fence around a pond, just a couple feet tall? It won’t keep your dogs out if they are determined, but it might deter them. It sounds like they aren’t ever left out unsupervised, so it would probably be pretty easy to keep them out of the fence.

I was thinking of the picket fence as well as a possibility. Just a matter of money, time, etc. Like most things in life. lol As of yesterday frog didn't return. I have not yet checked today.
 

Nik

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so the frog has not come back so I am assuming the relocation was a success... But in less happy news it turns out the frog may have been guarding our hot tub. Because a colony of ants has decided to move their nest and all their eggs into the hot tub over night! Took us a little google searching to figure out what that white stuff they were carrying to the .hot tub was... But yes it was ant eggs. Eww Eww Ewww. So we wiped them all away and sprayed.

Me yelling to my husband for help "Bring the death. Hurry bring the death! They all must die!"

So sometimes I am warm and fuzzy and other times I am a little bit evil.
 

DennasMom

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LOL.
Frogs = Good
Ants = EVIL

And here I was feeding little black ants just yesterday... I had left a hummingbird feeder full of sugar-water where they could find it. That error has now been rectified!