New to the forum 10week old presa owner disappointed in my puppy.

[CeeCee]

It sounds like you have a lot of expectations for you pup. I wonder if you're expectations are blinding to who he really is. I wouldn't be surprised if your pup also feels these expectations, the pressure that they are creating, and possibly even your disappointment.

Try to let your expectations go, allow him to be his natural self, encourage and praise him when he does show confidence and curiosity.

Please understand, I mean no disrespect but I can feel you're disappointment and hesitancy toward your pup and we are miles apart - your pup must be swimming in your feelings.

 

[grazefull1]

It sounds like you have a lot of expectations for you pup. I wonder if you're expectations are blinding to who he really is. I wouldn't be surprised if your pup also feels these expectations, the pressure that they are creating, and possibly even your disappointment.

Try to let your expectations go, allow him to be his natural self, encourage and praise him when he does show confidence and curiosity.

Please understand, I mean no disrespect but I can feel you're disappointment and hesitancy toward your pup and we are miles apart - your pup must be swimming in your feelings.

nicely said

 

[thelady_v2010]

I feel bad for your pup, I hope you can begin to accept him, or rehome him before he gets too attached.

 

[Presa lacey]

He is a really nice dog! Nice colours. I dont know much but if i bought him id be over the moon with him! Keep it up man dont let him go im sure hel turn out how you want him to just dont push to hard on him and just show him affection and hel learn to trust you and love you then everythin else follows (being protective) keep it up!

 

[Lukasdad]

My boy finally got his big boy bark about the 6 months hope your boys progressing I've realised my boys a big wuss lol thot he nearly knocked himself out the other night running into a park bench at full pelt because something spooked him ... His brothers and sisters seem to be the opposite but 2 of them still live with their mum which I believe helps still never shown any dog aggression but that's not a bad thing will just have to take my cat out with me at nights to protect me coz you don't want to mess with this feline lol any more pics as he is a lovely lookin boy

 

[aresismine]

I had the same issue, these dogs tend to get lazy inside, plus its a puppy you gotta teach it how to play. Mymale naps a lot. But always wants to play outside.

 

[Catia]

You say he was scared of another dog when you took him hiking--and I am curious--how much did you socialize him from 12wks on with dogs outside of your home?
Lack of socializing him with many other pooches could be a factor.

Also, a confident pooch doesn't always feel the need to react unless it is necessary. Depends on what they are bred to do, & there is a difference between a guard dog & a watch dog.
I'd rather not have an overly reactive dog.
My girl is very low reactive, & extremely patient. She will wait while I fumble with keys, wait while I chat about something unimportant...
I could jump up & down & make faces at Tessa and she will not jump up or get rowdy. I can walk down a street of barking dogs on both sides & she doesn't react. Every dog in this neighborhood sounds off at the slightest thing, mine does not, though, if she hears the right type of bark, she will get up to look & observe-quietly-& I am so thankful. We can quietly watch deer while hiking, she will even stop panting & breathe through her nose for as long as I want to crouch & watch.

When there is something she does not like, if we are out on a walk, she postures, quietly, she can't be moved when she decides to do this. It scares the bejeezus out of people. Not a sound from her-just a posture & a stare. No teeth, no raised hair, no bark, just Stoic silence. I have no idea what that means, but other people interpret this stance as "I better cross the street"--Apparently her silent stance is disturbing.
She rarely barks at the door, but I rarely have people knocking. People who are in/out have keys. When she hears something at the door she is stealthy & silent--not a peep-she even sniffs through the door quietly-postures, waits...

 

[ravigautam]

Not all Presas make good guard dogs.Just like human beingd dogs too have different personalities

 

[missfox22]

I don't own a Presa, but they are definitely on my list of future dogs to own.

I have an 11 month old Dogo Argentino, and when we first got him at 10 weeks he was shy of new people and other animals.

My friend who was also my dog sitter said it took an hour (when he was 10 weeks old) to stop hiding and come out and play with her two dogs.

As he got older he started to get more confident. I always tried to make sure he was in positive, safe socialization situations.

If there was a dog barking in the distance at the park at about 5-6 months, he would act a little scared or nervous. There was also a dog barking from the back of someone's truck at a 7-11 and he got scared from that as well (4-6 months)

Now he's a lot better, instead of being shy or scared he wants to investigate and say hi. His prey drive also kicked in.

He's great with other dogs, and a lot better with friendly strangers. But the prey drive definitely kicked in. (loves the squirrels and ducks, but is good with my cat)

Sometimes it can take time, so with your pup I probably wouldn't worry about it

 

[Bh-k9]

What's the blood line?

Depending on the lineage you will be able to know exactly what's going on from what your seeing and what is expected for that line at this age.

I'll be honest, only a select few bloodlines develop prey/ fight drive later in life. The other good working lines are more civil/defensive they show signs of dominance, aloofness,some type of territorial aggression from an early age.

You might have a pet quality dog who will never be what you want and to be candid your waisting both of your time. No disrespect but if your looking for a working dog from what your writing he more than likely is not it.

Good news is he may be the rare one that develops his drives once the all important sex drive kicks in. Again, we need to know the blood to be able to come to a educated "guess" on how he will mature. Ask the breeder what is expected from his pups at this age and see what he thinks.

Breeder will know better than anyone else, wether he will be truthful are not is another story.

 

[presa camario]

some start early some very late depends on breeding .
my presa pup is now 10 months old and is already on full sleeve and full suit.. the have insecure moments but you have to train intensive . on bite work and on obiedience.. not every presa is work bred .
mine is pure curto and works with good drive

 

[PresaDad]

Catia, CeeCee and Bh, totally agree. In my experience my Lola was going to be a silly, "soft" Presa as I watched her growing up. All the way to 10Mo old she was rather aloof to say the least. Also, scared of her own shadow. Until one day as we took our daily long walk in the PM. The same path, same city, same everything. Her bark tone changed, her silent stare as stated by one of the other members, confidence kicked in and since that day I have had a different dog. A vet once mentioned to me that Presas mature much later than most other Mastiffs. I am not 100% sure of all others, but can tell you that mine is all I wanted and then some. In addition, I must say that she is always aware of my feelings, emotions, change in attitude towards things in a very special way. Your puppy perhaps is too young, perhaps can sense your disappointment or he may not be all you want him to be. One thing for sure, YOU are ALL HE HAS and CARES about. That I am a 100% sure of.

 

[gamestaff]

What's the blood line?

Depending on the lineage you will be able to know exactly what's going on from what your seeing and what is expected for that line at this age.

I'll be honest, only a select few bloodlines develop prey/ fight drive later in life. The other good working lines are more civil/defensive they show signs of dominance, aloofness,some type of territorial aggression from an early age.

You might have a pet quality dog who will never be what you want and to be candid your waisting both of your time. No disrespect but if your looking for a working dog from what your writing he more than likely is not it.

Good news is he may be the rare one that develops his drives once the all important sex drive kicks in. Again, we need to know the blood to be able to come to a educated "guess" on how he will mature. Ask the breeder what is expected from his pups at this age and see what he thinks.

Breeder will know better than anyone else, wether he will be truthful are not is another story.

good post

 

[RockstarDDB]

Generaly mastiffs mature slower . I know nothing about presa as ive not owned one. But there is some differences in conformation breeding and the qualities you desire. I do know from my DDB and my corso the dog changed right around the one year mark. Requiring more training to actually settle his protection and guard instincts.

Bandogge are excellent for the type of work you are looking for . Id wait 12 months before making judgement on him.

 

[Cobalt]

Originally Posted by Bh-k9 What's the blood line?

Depending on the lineage you will be able to know exactly what's going on from what your seeing and what is expected for that line at this age.

I'll be honest, only a select few bloodlines develop prey/ fight drive later in life. The other good working lines are more civil/defensive they show signs of dominance, aloofness,some type of territorial aggression from an early age.

You might have a pet quality dog who will never be what you want and to be candid your waisting both of your time. No disrespect but if your looking for a working dog from what your writing he more than likely is not it.

Good news is he may be the rare one that develops his drives once the all important sex drive kicks in. Again, we need to know the blood to be able to come to a educated "guess" on how he will mature. Ask the breeder what is expected from his pups at this age and see what he thinks.

Breeder will know better than anyone else, wether he will be truthful are not is another story.

good post

I agree - each breeder I spoke with before making my own decision on a Presa asked me very specific questions in what I was looking for in a dog. It's still a bit of a hit or miss of course, but your chances of getting the dog you want are better when working with the right breeder with the appropriate blood-line temperament.

 

[fixitlouie]

My pressa is just now coming around...as expected... he is about 8 months old.

 

[esaudio]

So how is your presa doing?

 

[Arivera1125]

I completely agree!!! Any puppy at 10 weeks is still developing. Give your little guy a chance to develop. My good friend currently has a 12 week German Shepherd from a very reputable breeder and that little guy sleeps all day long. Again, give your little guy months, even years, to show you all he can do.

 

[Diesel661]

Took big haus to the vet to get his 12 week shots, a cat swatted at him and he got pissed and went into attack mode, then a full size German Shepard gave a lil bark at him and he was giving it all he got trying to get to the German Shepard to fight! Funniest thing I saw! Didn't know the lil fella even knew how to bark lol
He is a real mellow dog till he gets mad! He also does not take any crap from our 120lbs fila pup that is a year old eather.
Thick lil guy, I'll have to make a thread and get some pics

 

[goatnipples2002]

What do u expect from a puppy. He's still a baby. U expect a toddler to run a mile? My female was the same way until she got older and gained some confidence. Now her prey drive is fckn insane. I mean shes a relentless hunter. Wait it out and keep training. If he reacts even slightly to the flirt pole he will prob be okay. Maybe try putting some meat blood on flirt pole rag and play when hes hungry. Also whats ur energy lvl like? My dogs are lazy til I get crazy then its Corso time lol