Wierd Sensation

[CeeCee]

Earlier this week Pru (my AmStaff) and I were walking in the woods by ourselves. Pru is a ridiculously social dog and loves people more than she loves life itself.

As we were walking, I had a sensation of vulnerability that I have never had walking Zeek and Lila. Now, I know if someone has ill intent, Zeek's look and size will not stop them, but it cannot be denied that these attributes usually give us a little bit of breathing room and space to move. Zeek also does not like strangers so people aren't getting that close that fast without Zeek having something to say about it.

With Pru, if anyone intends us harm, our best shot at space is the reputation of her breed (assuming the attacker believes the pitbull hype) and our best shot at safety is if I release her to lick and wiggle them while I run away and then call her to me once I am at a safe distance. Ha Ha Ha

I guess I need to start taking a serious look at what I carry with me when Pruie and I walk alone. I'm a little embarrassed to be asking this question, but what personal protection aids/tools do others take with you on your walks in secluded areas?

 

[April Nicole]

Earlier this week Pru (my AmStaff) and I were walking in the woods by ourselves. Pru is a ridiculously social dog and loves people more than she loves life itself.

As we were walking, I had a sensation of vulnerability that I have never had walking Zeek and Lila. Now, I know if someone has ill intent, Zeek's look and size will not stop them, but it cannot be denied that these attributes usually give us a little bit of breathing room and space to move. Zeek also does not like strangers so people aren't getting that close that fast without Zeek having something to say about it.

With Pru, if anyone intends us harm, our best shot at space is the reputation of her breed (assuming the attacker believes the pitbull hype) and our best shot at safety is if I release her to lick and wiggle them while I run away and then call her to me once I am at a safe distance. Ha Ha Ha

I guess I need to start taking a serious look at what I carry with me when Pruie and I walk alone. I'm a little embarrassed to be asking this question, but what personal protection aids/tools do others take with you on your walks in secluded areas?

My husband usually likes me to be strapped at all times. Lol! But I have some pepper spray. And a little metal retractable baton that has a hand strap.

 

[Steven C]

I guess I need to start taking a serious look at what I carry with me when Pruie and I walk alone. I'm a little embarrassed to be asking this question, but what personal protection aids/tools do others take with you on your walks in secluded areas?

A Cane Corso. ha!

Not only what you said but another dog latching on to your dog is also an issue that happens daily. My old neighbor in Long island used to take a bat with him on his runs with the GSD dog and as a kid I would wonder why in such a nice neighborhood. My wife always has a professional quality pepper spray with her which sprays direct to about 10 feet. I would always recommend a legal sized knife in the event of another dog mauling your own. Choking a dog by its collar from the back does work, but not easy for most to handle.

In some states, they recommend a whistle in the event of a rape. Crazy!

 

[glen]

I think its a great question, the problem where i am, the uk, we cannot carry antyhing that is a weapon, and where i am is very secluded so my 3 cc boys is all i have, i dont think anyone would be that stupid, budcuss really doesnt like strangers and on occassions as let men know to stay away,

 

[Sheila Braund]

Earlier this week Pru (my AmStaff) and I were walking in the woods by ourselves. Pru is a ridiculously social dog and loves people more than she loves life itself.

As we were walking, I had a sensation of vulnerability that I have never had walking Zeek and Lila. Now, I know if someone has ill intent, Zeek's look and size will not stop them, but it cannot be denied that these attributes usually give us a little bit of breathing room and space to move. Zeek also does not like strangers so people aren't getting that close that fast without Zeek having something to say about it.

With Pru, if anyone intends us harm, our best shot at space is the reputation of her breed (assuming the attacker believes the pitbull hype) and our best shot at safety is if I release her to lick and wiggle them while I run away and then call her to me once I am at a safe distance. Ha Ha Ha

I guess I need to start taking a serious look at what I carry with me when Pruie and I walk alone. I'm a little embarrassed to be asking this question, but what personal protection aids/tools do others take with you on your walks in secluded areas?

I walk with a walking cane or stick. I do know you can go to a hunters store and get bear spray... thats legal in Canada not sure about other places

 

[Sheila Braund]

As I am sitting in my office getting ready to take Bella out for a afternoon walk... what do I see... that dog that attached Bella when she was a pup... I think we will wait a bit... oh and by the way when that attach went down the only thing that got that other dog to release my dogs was by me pinning him down with my body and holding this throat right under the jaw line.... now I am not saying that this was a good idea at all... I was very lucky I didn't get attached or bit in the face by this uncontrollable dog.... maybe I should run out and grab some bear spray myself

 

[TWW]

99% of the time wife has either me or Mouse with her, if not she's at home and Mr Smith & Wesson are always at the house.

 

[Zeela]

Just myself, I know how to protect myself, Zeela is a just a good deterrent.

 

[Smokeycat]

I walk with a walking cane or stick. I do know you can go to a hunters store and get bear spray... thats legal in Canada not sure about other places

You want to be careful with bear spray in Canada. While it is legal to buy and own, if carried in a place where you are unlikely to run into bears, such as a city, you could be charged with carrying a concealed weapon.

 

[Bailey's Mom]

Listen to Smokeycat... We carry Bear Spray at TSC Store, but used in the city, against anything smaller than a bear.....I see police in your future as pepper spray/Mace are prohibited weapons.

Now, I have broken up a dog attack before (grand-puppy attacked a small dog) I couldn't get his jaws apart, but I used a technique I saw at the dog park. Okay....gross! I grabbed his tail and stuck my thumb up his butt. Yeah...I did it. And Huddy dropped that dog like a rock. Thankfully, he didn't bite his Gramma! Just a possibility for a difficult situation... Mind you, I sport the scars from a dog attack...27 stitches. I could have lost my right eye and my right ear was shredded. So use this trick with care! Know your dog before trying it.

Personally, I know, I'd sacrifice myself to protect my 130 lb baby. In Canada, we don't have guns (thank God!) And, it is freaking unusual to see a dog at large. I've seen 1 in the past three years. The remaining threats are NOW coyotes...and (rarer yet) sex perverts. Bailey scares off most men...too much dog to attempt a grope. But coyotes take the fun out of life...my husband won't let me walk at the pond alone which pisses me off, since he never wants to go with me. Grrr!

I have another strategy that might help with dogs/coyotes...Go to your local boating store and pick up a air horn. Noise scares off coyotes, and may put attackers on the run too...both the two- and four-legged ones.

 

[Sheila Braund]

Smokers at & Baileysmom, thank you! Great advie. Yes coyotes can take the fun out of the wild for sure! I have a large pack in the middle of my concession ! I figure the pack is about 25 to 30.... Which is crazy! This is why I got my gun license and going for my hunters as well. I really don't need my hunters with living in farm country, I just figured the extra education couldn't hurt. I do plan on thinning out the pack a little..... Just take out the grandparents of the pack. Good thing I'm an excellent shot
Anyway I'm babbling here. Off to work we go hi ho hi ho

 

[CeeCee]

Thanks all! Just did some research and pepper spray is legal in NYS as long as it is marked "For Personal Defense." To quote Shelia "Hi Ho Hi Ho..." it's off to Amazon I go.

 

[April Nicole]

As I am sitting in my office getting ready to take Bella out for a afternoon walk... what do I see... that dog that attached Bella when she was a pup... I think we will wait a bit... oh and by the way when that attach went down the only thing that got that other dog to release my dogs was by me pinning him down with my body and holding this throat right under the jaw line.... now I am not saying that this was a good idea at all... I was very lucky I didn't get attached or bit in the face by this uncontrollable dog.... maybe I should run out and grab some bear spray myself

That's awful. Does the dog that attacked her roam freely? What kind of dog is it?

 

[Sheila Braund]

It's an Australian sheepdog and maybe with some husky and it. No it got away from its owner... She was walking it across the road from us. It broke free and ran across one of the busier streets to get to us... That's why I didn't see the dog until he had Bella by her throat..... I seen the dog before...I just never dreamed it would cross that road....I have no clue how it made it without getting hit... After that my 6lb pound poodle puff Sunny attached the dog that had Bella.... He released Bella and had Sunny in his mouth like she was a stick or ball....I was horrified! This happened so quickly, this literally only took a couple blinks....That's when I attached the dog like I was a dog....but with my hands not teeth....but I was growling, I was extremely lucky he didn't kill both my dogs.
After that this woman follows me with her dog.... She's explaining to me that it really wasn't his fault....he was upset because her husband left them 2 months ago.... The whole time this dog is still snapping at me trying to get my dogs in my arms....here I am trying to get my dogs to safety away from this dog and she follows me right back to my office...and follows me inside! I stuffed my dogs into another room and turned to this but of a woman and said.... Lady you need to get a handle on yourself and your dog....either go for counselling and dog obedience classes....Or get that dog re-homed....because if you don't either that dog will kill someone's dog or small child....because your unstable! It's only behaving like this because he can't trust YOU to lead....or keep him safe!
She still has the dog. I hope she took my advice

 

[April Nicole]

It's an Australian sheepdog and maybe with some husky and it. No it got away from its owner... She was walking it across the road from us. It broke free and ran across one of the busier streets to get to us... That's why I didn't see the dog until he had Bella by her throat..... I seen the dog before...I just never dreamed it would cross that road....I have no clue how it made it without getting hit... After that my 6lb pound poodle puff Sunny attached the dog that had Bella.... He released Bella and had Sunny in his mouth like she was a stick or ball....I was horrified! This happened so quickly, this literally only took a couple blinks....That's when I attached the dog like I was a dog....but with my hands not teeth....but I was growling, I was extremely lucky he didn't kill both my dogs.
After that this woman follows me with her dog.... She's explaining to me that it really wasn't his fault....he was upset because her husband left them 2 months ago.... The whole time this dog is still snapping at me trying to get my dogs in my arms....here I am trying to get my dogs to safety away from this dog and she follows me right back to my office...and follows me inside! I stuffed my dogs into another room and turned to this but of a woman and said.... Lady you need to get a handle on yourself and your dog....either go for counselling and dog obedience classes....Or get that dog re-homed....because if you don't either that dog will kill someone's dog or small child....because your unstable! It's only behaving like this because he can't trust YOU to lead....or keep him safe!
She still has the dog. I hope she took my advice

Oh Sheila that's horrible. I'm so glad Bella and Sunny weren't badly hurt. I hope she got some training also, but you are right by steering clear of them. People are just oblivious or something. I can't believe she followed you into your office!

 

[Bailey's Mom]

Oh Sheila that's horrible. I'm so glad Bella and Sunny weren't badly hurt. I hope she got some training also, but you are right by steering clear of them. People are just oblivious or something. I can't believe she followed you into your office!

I think you called it Sheila, this woman is derranged and needs psychiatric help, without which, she will fail as the dog's leader and trouble will follow them wherever they go. More dogs are ruined by weak humans than diseases or accident. Humans should be licenced to own a dog, but only after passing stringent exams.

 

[Bailey's Mom]

Oh, and the coyote issue....I thought they were going to bring back a bounty for them. I know most hunters I talk to kill them on site.

 

[Sheila Braund]

Oh, and the coyote issue....I thought they were going to bring back a bounty for them. I know most hunters I talk to kill them on site.

At one point the parks and rec dept said they would handle the over populated coyote problem....because us farmers just can't go around shooting coyote.... Then once they did a little research and found out the cost of live trapping and relocating... They decided it was the farmers problem they can deal with it.... Idiots!

 

[Sheila Braund]

Don't take this that I'm going to go kill off the whole pack....no I don't mind having the packs den I my back yard....it's the older once that are so very dangerous.... There been a new survey built about 25 to 30 houses.... These city people have no clue....we see so many home made posters for cats and small dogs....you know their were coyote dinner....and 1/2 of these new neighbours put their trash out the night before....so now we have coyotes and I see them almost every week that shouldn't still be alive...have lived way past their life expectancy ... And because their too old to really hunt I the pack anymore....their at our back door looking for an easy meal.
Also there are new neighbours that let they little kids 3 and 4 yr olds play out in they yards by them selves! That so dangerous.... I've spoken with the parents about this.... I'm pretty sure they think I'm crazy..... Their right across the road from my house.....I feel a little better now that Bella is bigger....she watches them play every day....I know if anyone or thing tried to hurt those kids Bella would be over there in a blink of an eye. She loves those kids.