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What is difficult about your CC?

vadersmom

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OK, we want a second mastiff in the next year. We have a 3 month old BM girl now and are settling in to a decent routine(finally) thanks to the suggestions here and other resources. We are both 55 and do NOT think we can do another mastiff puppy in our 60's so we need to seriously consider getting another this summer/fall. We are considering heavily a CC and have heard only good things about them. My vet does not have any experience with them personally. What are the downfalls of a CC and what issues do we need to consider adding a male to our little girl(she will be neutered 3 months after her first heat)? Is that too much energy for folks our age? I am very active, right now, but one never knows what is around the corner healthwise. My hubby is an indoor guy but very low key and gentle. He would love a dog I could run/walk with but that certainly would not happen for at least a year after we get him. We are also considering another BM or a EM, maybe a DDB. We have a CC breeder close by that does health checks of the parents which I love. Our BM's breeder could be breeding again this spring with available puppies in the summer that may work. Thoughts???
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
IMO,out of the breeds you are investigating, the CC is probably the most energetic one followed by the EM. It all depends on the dog to be honest as whether or not it will be energetic.

Titan, a DDB, is quite lazy. He will do our daily walks of 1/2 mile each time but no more. If I try to get him to do more, he wants to return to the car to go back to his couch.
 

Bean

Well-Known Member
Just like with any working or guarding breed, proper puppy selection and temperament fitting (meaning fitting the right puppy with the right owners based on energy and temperament) is what I would concentrate on, rather than the specific type of mastiff. I say this because you can have a lovely, calm, well adjusted CC or a dominant energizer bunny of an EM (or vice versa)if you're not careful during your selection process. I'm sure you already are very knowledgeable on all these factors, just speaking from personal bad decisions with my first CC. Choosing for size and look, not enough research, not meeting both parents etc. I ended up with a very difficult to train, highly anxious and medically unsound CC. My second time around I made sure to choose a more submissive, calm and well adjusted puppy and I met both parents, and so far she has been very willing to please, and apart from minor teenage issues here and there, very easy to handle.

All mastiffs can be couch potatos as long as they receive the necessary mental or physical stimulation as well. Something as simple as taking Bean on the subway, or to hockey games where she is required to stay in a sit by my side, provides enough stimulation for her to sleep for hours afterwards.

So I guess to answer your question, a lot can be difficult, but it can also be manageable if you do your due diligence beforehand. :)
 

vadersmom

Well-Known Member
So you think a EM is more energetic than the BM or DDB? I know it is dog dependent and they all vary. I would not expect this little BM puppy I have to be so active. I really do like the DDB as well, but we just don't have a breeder close that health checks the parents. All options are open.
 

vadersmom

Well-Known Member
I sure let the breeder help us pick the most quiet and the easiest puppy but let me tell you, if she is the most laid back, I hate to see the other 9! Very active, much more so than what we expected.
Anyway, I agree it really could be more personality driven than breed-just hard to figure out how to stack the odds in our favor.
 

el gato diablo

Well-Known Member
I have not seen in my personal experience a puppy's disposition being a significant indicator of adult temperament...but others swear by it. CC energy levels are high, they can be a bull in a china shop inside the house at times...they don't go around things, they go through them. We have hardwood floors and our CC had fits of what we call "happy pee"...if we had carpets, that would've been a major, major problem. They are great dogs and my favorite Mastiff...just be aware of the commitment you must make to train them, and know that they require multiple sessions of exercise a day, or the bull in the china shop effect can be intolerable. That's about all the bad I can muster up...oh and cherry eye was an issue for us as well, both eyes needed surgery.
 

NYDDB

Well-Known Member
I agree that every dog within the specific breed can vary widely as far as energy goes. My DDB needs at least a good 2 hour walk/hike/play time every day to help drain his energy. He is by no means hyper, just fairly active for a Dogue. That said, he can "go with the flow" and deal with shorter walks if necessary...but after a day or so, he is restless. (Never destructive, though...hallelujah!)

Good luck in your search...always good to get everybody's opinions/experiences. :)
 

DDSK

Well-Known Member
What is difficult is keeping her from eating my socks, my wife's hose and rocks :)
 

HappyHound

Active Member
What is difficult is keeping her from eating my socks, my wife's hose and rocks :)

My problem too. I now live in a safe socks household. Socks are either on feet or locked away. Non-compliant guests are not welcome back, the vet said after the last operation that the next sock could be fatal, because of the scarring the operation left

Slobber. My megafauna isn't a slobberer, but he does have the not very endearing habit of drinking a heap of water then coming over to guests and dripping water over them before shaking it everywhere. He doesn't do it to me. I'm working with him to break the habit, it's only funny once. Very funny. But only once :)

Apart from that, maybe I got lucky. My CC is a couch potato, tho he does get walked off leash for about 90 min a day across cow paddocks and creeks. He's 54kg of happy and a bit of slobber and he has the most beautiful nature of any dog I've ever owned. He's responsive to training, is a brilliant personal protector, and when I've returned from being away the people at several kennels have congratulated me on his being relaxed and good with other dogs

Mind you he got a lot of training and socialisation early on. Any time you put into your CC will be rewarded a thousandfold
 

Bailey's Mom

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Mine is in the medium energy range. If I had been younger and fitter, I'm sure she would accommodate and gear up. I'm your age, but I never thought the dog would be too much for me. I know she'd like to be out more, but the weather is difficult. Generally she gets a couple of walks per day, but snow and treacherous ice conditions mean going for play dates with her cousin dog. She loves wrestling with the Rottie, but it doesn't make up for fresh air.

She loves the dog park, and is amiable with almost all dogs. She tends to find dogs her own age and size for playing chase. It is rare for her to dislike a dog (she even loves the small ones, and is generally very gentle with them.)

Big bed hog, couch hog, constantly hungry and on the prowl for edibles. Huge personality with a highly developed sense of what is fair:. I'm not kidding. On the three occasions when she was physically punished, she sulked and vocalized with "woo-woo" sounds. She'll retreat to the stairs and refused to come to me, all the time "woo-wooing" at me and tossing her head and throwing her paws out in complaint. It's a very heartfelt recitation of the wrongs done to her. (Very funny, but hard to keep a straight face.)

She will punish me if I upset her, ie., she was upset about our return to work after a lovely two week vacation. The first day she dragged my clogs into the living room and chewed them half heartedly. The second day she dragged my clogs and running shoes into the living room and she pulled out the inserts. The third day, she took the clogs, two pair of running shoes, pulled out the inserts, ripped them up, chewed one of the heels and ripped up a flyer. She was lectured the first two times and had to listen to me yell. The last time she got four smacks with the destroyed running shoes, and she retreated to the top of the stairs to lecture me with her pathetic "woo-wooing.".

All in all though, she is a wonderful and obedient dog that will do anything to please you. She needs to go to obedience training, as do most large dogs, and her intellect would benefit greatly from the stimulation of some specialized hunting or searching training as she has a great nose. She is protective of the home, but there isn't an aggressive bone in her. I'm not sure what she would do to an intruder unless we were personally threatened. She's very mellow. The mother was great with visitors, but would protect the perimeter....you had to be welcomed in before she accepted you.

Fully grown, they are very impressive and fearsome. I love that my dog's ears and tail were left natural. She's very beautiful, I don't need her to look scary...her size is enough to deter most people of evil intent.

Oh, they are big snuggle bunnies and love to be close and be touched often. Mine loves snuggling on the bed (get a big bed!)
 

Ben Curtis

Well-Known Member
You already have a BM, so I would say that the challenges are not that much different. I have spent quite a bit of time around both and in my own personal experience my Corso is a bit less stubborn than BM's I have been around, more inquisitive, and slightly more energetic.

Leo day 2 figured out how to open our front door. That was our first inclination that we were dealing with a different kind of animal here. I find I need to keep him mentally stimulated more than the other BM's I have been around.

I think your biggest challenge will not be the breed, but the relationship between the two dogs.
 

Marco

Well-Known Member
my cc obsesses over paper. I have to keep eyes on him 24 7 if not..., he is like a little toddler getting into all sorts of trouble. if I catch him he starts to swallow it quickly before I can get to it.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
I believe paper is the one "go to" product for most dogs. I always wondered why.

Sometimes when I go somewhere and Titan is upset because I'm not taking him, he will get into the garbage and grab the paper products, i.e. paper towels. He doesn't eat them but likes to display them in an arrangement near the door so I see it when I walk in. The little goober!
 

Marco

Well-Known Member
ha... his own temper tantrum signature. " if u dont take me mom, i swear ill shred that paper" :mad:
 

cblond1121

Well-Known Member
I've retired my electric paper shredder and now give all documents containing sensitive information to my CC to destroy. Between the the tiny pieces and the slobber, identity thieves don't stand a chance. ;-)

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