Total shock of DNA test...

Discussion in 'Cane Corso' started by Patrick, Apr 14, 2020.

  1. Patrick

    Patrick Well-Known Member

    First, let me say that I am a history buff.. i actually have a book written by the family that owned my family during slavery. They kept very good records of who married whom, and how much they paid for each slave ...... it was mind blowing to say the least. Well that started me on a dna journey for myself. I wanted my son to know his dna make up... well that started me to wondering about Magic. Magic is 14 months old. His test TOTALLY shocked me. I love him to pieces... i thought he was 100% CC.... So many CC owners have asked to breed with him... now I am hurt...to know what seems like the truth... i just found this out today and had to share... attached is the DNA report from Wisdom Panel ..
     

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  2. Bailey's Mom

    Bailey's Mom Super Moderator Super Moderator

    Two words come to mind: Second Opinion.

    I do not know anything about the company in question, so, take no inference from my suggestion, only consider the possibility that the sensitivity of the test or the viability of the sample may have given less than a definitive response.

    Our family recently did its Gene testing, and, it was somewhat less accurate than we could hope. It's a bit of a slide rule effect between my sister and myself. Just more accurate about our Irish ancestry and sort of smearing her results for her as compared with real differentiation with mine. Her European was vague, but mine was broken apart into percentages. Same test...a year apart, but mine was more detailed and hers was more lumped together. Same with my daughter, though some of her results may have reflected her father's limited knowledge of his background or his maternal DNA.

    I'm sure there are other tests available to test this tests veracity. Make sure they are, indeed, different entities, ie., competitors, and review all the comments by customers...and complaints.

    I know that some our members have done genetic testing...I'm sure they will add their recommendations. I don't get hooked up on purity, a Mastiff whether whole or part is still the best dog in the world.
     
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  3. Patrick

    Patrick Well-Known Member



    Thank you,
    I really appreciate your input.
     
  4. Loverboy Skyline

    Loverboy Skyline Well-Known Member

    I agree with the other post. Is he registered as pure? If he is I wouldn't worry about it, especially since the other breeds in that report were all used to in the making of the Cane Corso.
     
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  5. sadhbhsdad

    sadhbhsdad Active Member

    Hi Patrick,
    I don't know much about CC's and have had zero contact with the breed (A guy I used to work with now has one so I hope to catch up with him after the virus is under control)
    The little I have read about CC's is that they were a type of working dog in southern Italy as was the Neo so that makes sense that they share DNA. Your results for Magic are 37.5% CC & 12.5% Neo = 50% Italian Mastiff type dog. I also believe that the boxer was used in breeding programs for modern CC.
    I have a book with some old photos of Neapolitan Mastiffs that look very similar to Cane Corso of today, they look lean and fit for purpose.
    As you stated you love him to pieces and that's what counts.
    I will try follow up with the photos from the book.
     
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    sadhbhsdad Active Member

  7. glen

    glen Super Moderator Staff Member

    Agree with all, my daughter in law is italian, when her granparents came to visit from italy they met my boys, they said ahhh neo beautiful,
     
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  8. Patrick

    Patrick Well-Known Member

    Sadly he is Not registered.... now that I think of it... i was told the price would increase $500 to have papers.... smh... i never thought of being a breeder so that part didn't bother me at the time... boy... 20/20 hindsight.....
    The dna test even shows that the mom and dad were CC but the grand parents had the different breeds within them.. the only full blooded breeds were CC and English Mastiff.. the others were mixed with Neo, and boxer...
     
  9. Loverboy Skyline

    Loverboy Skyline Well-Known Member

    Charging more for papers and full registration is normal because breeders do that to avoid competition. Just enjoy your CC for who he is. The time you spend with a good dog is far more valuable than any stud fees you could have gotten. It's known that the breed is closely related to the Neapolitan Mastiff and there was some Mastiff blood in there too. If I remember correctly, American breeders added Boxers to make them look cleaner for dog shows. As far as I see it, there's nothing wrong with seeing those other breeds in his DNA.
     
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  10. Patrick

    Patrick Well-Known Member

    You guys are making me feel better...lol
    I am actually smiling... Magic just jumped in the bed with me....lol
    My family is lucky to have him...
    Thanks
     
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  11. TylerDurden

    TylerDurden Well-Known Member

    Sorry to hear that Patrick. Despite the love to your dog. I also understand your frustration/disappointment. Not because it makes him a different dog, but because of the fact that you were expecting a different result. I‘m wondering how accurate these tests are and what the margin of error is. It would be interesting to test a few purebred dogs who have well documented pedigrees just to validate the accuracy of the testing.
    Also, I‘m wondering if the accuracy differs based on the breed and on how many samples they have in their databases.
     
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  12. Patrick

    Patrick Well-Known Member

    I have thought the same thing... i know the breeds they stated are Mastiffs, and I also have heard they used Boxers in the CC too... I've wondered if its a GENERAL dna test... i would like to find out about a Registered Pure blood....
     
  13. Loverboy Skyline

    Loverboy Skyline Well-Known Member

    I watched a video that I think will answer a lot of your questions:



    To sum it up, this is a new breed that gained popularity in the US in the 1990's. We already know Neo Mastiff and Mastiff are foundation dogs in this breed from Italy. American breeders introduced the Boxer to make it look cleaner for the shows. The Boxer happens to be a breed that stacks up well against other breeds when it comes to Best In Show because of it's sleek elegant look.

    Personally, I think the test is probably accurate and your dog is about as pure as 90% of the Cane Corsos you see in dog shows.
     
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  14. Patrick

    Patrick Well-Known Member


    Skyline...
    You are the best !! Thanks for the video and information !! I am really smiling today !! What you said coupled with the video truly made my day !!
     
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  15. Patrick

    Patrick Well-Known Member

    My CC Magic !! 14 months old. Weighs about 110 lbs. 26 inches tall.
     

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