Politics play a big role in show's, so right wrong or indifferent I don't give them a lot of credit. Many true working breeders see no need in showing their dogs, that's their choice. My point was the only pictures referenced were show lines. Therefor your showing only half of or more than likely way less than half of all the EMs for a given period of time. There's plenty of huge EMs that have great movement and can work. Grazefull I've seen and read many of your post about EMs being fat and too big.. that's your opinion but owning EMs and being around many breeders.. there's a larger world than the comments you make about EMs. I'm a bit bias also however.