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Talk about temptation...

northernmastiff

Well-Known Member
I'm sure you do Bantu. What type of dog do you have again? Share your knowledge senior member...after all I could use a good laugh.
 

agno3

Active Member
I'm not fan of dog fighting, but before it went illegal it used to have rules, regulations, things like that. There were no "bait" dogs and both dogs had to scratch to be allowed to fight. Not like today where people think beating and depriving a dog makes it vicious. Really, the dog just has to be game. Game as in, "willing to do a thing untill otherwise prevented." Dogs didn't used to die all of the time in dog fights and fights were generally stopped when bad injuries occured. I know it sounds like I'm defending dog fighting, but really I'm just really mad at how bad it has got since it became illegal and widely prosecuted here.

In really bad neighborhoods, guys will have their dogs spar on the corner to solve a dispute. I guess this is one of the closest things we have left to old school dogfighting. I think it is better than shooting each other, but to each their own, I guess.
 
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Bantu

Banned
I'm not fan of dog fighting, but before it went illegal it used to have rules, regulations, things like that. There were no "bait" dogs and both dogs had to scratch to be allowed to fight. Not like today where people think beating and depriving a dog makes it vicious. Really, the dog just has to be game. Game as in, "willing to do a thing untill otherwise prevented." Dogs didn't used to die all of the time in dog fights and fights were generally stopped when bad injuries occured. I know it sounds like I'm defending dog fighting, but really I'm just really mad at how bad it has got since it became illegal and widely prosecuted here.

In really bad neighborhoods, guys will have their dogs spar on the corner to solve a dispute. I guess this is one of the closest things we have left to old school dogfighting. I think it is better than shooting each other, but to each their own, I guess.

Good post Agno.
 

fila4me

Well-Known Member
as the owner of Filas and Dogos, any good breeder in Brasil or Argentina will shoot dog aggressive dogs as both breeds are pack hunters. The US is the only place that will continue to breed these aggressive dogs. Another way we Americans ruin the true nature of the breed. As an APBT owner, rescuer and supporter, I do agree that old school dogman had true respect for their dogs. They were not treated inhumanely. They were treated like gold! And fo the record I am totally against dog fighting of any kind.
 

AKBull

Super Moderator
Staff member
Well it looks like the original story here is changing again.
I was contacted by the owner who told me the Bull had killed her little 4 year old Chihuahua... From the sounds of it the two dogs were playing with a squeaky toy, next thing was the big boy playing with the little dog like it was the squeeky. I'm not trying to make light of that description, that's just how it was described to me. The owner asked me if I would take the dog, and after discussing it with my wife, it was a no. I couldn't expose the other people in my building to that, one even owns a Chi. So I contact someone who shows her Bull, tell her the situation, ask for help. She does leg work and starts to get a few people on board. I also forward the latest email to my ex wife since she knew what was going on originally, she had wanted the dog as well until the owner decided she wanted to try to work with him more. My ex replies back that I am nuts for wanting to get this dog now. I tell her no, I'm not getting it, just letting her know the latest development and that I'm trying to find him an appropriate home now.... Well. Seems the ex contacted the owner and the dog will be brought into town for her on Wednesday... To say I'm worried is a little bit of an understatement. There are 3 cats that also live with her.
I could go on, but I just wanted to give an update.
 

ruby55

Well-Known Member
I've just read thru this entire post & am glad it's back on track; but I don't like the thought of that dog going to a home with 3 cats. Our male, Sunny, is a big love bug. His favorite thing to do is walk around with a soft toy in his mouth. He also has a very soft bite. One day we were visiting a friend who has 2 bullmastiffs & 2 cats. One of the cats jumped up to chase a flying bug, & Sunny was too close. He grabbed the cat, like TOY?TOY? and did hundreds of dollars worth of damage to the cat. He also tried to carry one of our lemurs in his mouth; his face was stapled in 5 places. PLEASE tell your ex to be very careful with her cats.
 

AKBull

Super Moderator
Staff member
Oh I've let her know...
Scary stuff concerning your experience. I've been fortunate in all my dogs have grown up with cats. Doesn't make them any smarter about messing with them, Junior, but at least they know they aren't food or toys.
He'll be here this afternoon and I'll stop by tonight to meet him.

This is his latest mugshot.

Teton.jpg
 

Marrowshard

Well-Known Member
Scary stuff indeed. We got lucky in that Oscar was raised with both a cat and a small dog. He still gets a little too close sometimes and gets swatted, but he's never tried to catch/hurt them or mistaken them for squeaky toys. Really hope your ex knows what she's doing and has plenty of places for the cats to hide and get up high if they need to.
Definitely keep us posted ...

~Marrow
 

AKBull

Super Moderator
Staff member
I'm happy to say that I got to meet this boy tonight, he actually seemed like a really great dog. His new EM sister was putting him through the ringer, and he weathered it pretty well. I could see the action/reaction come out in him, but only at the end of nonstop tormenting by the EM. They are both a hair over a year old, so still pretty young. The EM is female, so that's good. He's also fairly underweight. The original owner claimed it was due to his neutering, he didn't really want to eat afterwards. But I saw him devour a bowl of food in quick fashion. Needless to say, I don't think his weight will be an issue for very long.
He's pretty lovey on people, which is nice. He followed his new momma all over the place. Anytime she was stepping out of sight he adjusted or moved to keep her in range. I know this is due to the new surroundings, but he was sure trying to make a good first impression.
The cats are bedroom bound during this period. One of them managed to get out before I showed up and Teton showed immediate interest in it, but was coaxed to ignore it. From what I can tell, it SHOULD work out once they are introduced and he is taught to leave it. I have hope anyway.

So, yeah, first meeting went really well. I wasn't expecting a frothing monster or anything, but I was thinking he'd be a little sketchy. I didn't see that at all. He reminded me a lot of my previous bully, and that's a pretty good way to start things off. I can see this working out in the long haul. Sad to say I didn't get any pictures of the boy, but knowing his new momma I'll be able to steal some from her Facebook shortly. ;)
 

bullyBug

Well-Known Member
Awesome news Ak! Great work! I hope the good news continues as the boy gets more comfortable.