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ruthcatrin

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I took a quick look at a couple of the Authority formulas and they do recommend closer to that 6 cups a day, so that MAY not have been the problem with the Authority foods. Only way to find out for sure is to try them again. Which I don't recommend right at the moment, but might be worth keeping in mind if you decide you want to try switching her back a few months down the road.
 

Penelope's Mom

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Ruth, will it hurt her to leave her on chicken and rice or beef and rice for a week until her vet appt? I'll give her that plus her probiotic.
 

ruthcatrin

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Its on the 1st? That should be fine but if they want her on it for longer get them to give you a vitamin supplement for her.
 

Lisa P

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This has been so interesting to me since we are having the same problem with Norman.
Went to the Vet today,no parasites ,no bacterial infection so...we are to give him a very expensive prescription probiotic Dog Prostora Max GI ( 51.60 one week supply)for a week and see if it helps.i am also going to cut back his kibble a bit too. He looks good,acts fine,4 1/2 month old CC and he weighed 75 lbs today
 

ruthcatrin

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Okay. How do you feel about feeding raw at one meal and kibble the next?

Some dogs are fine with that some aren't, only way to know is to try. If she's fine with it then go for it. But you still need to balance the raw portion, with proper proportions of bone and organ with the meat.
 

Lisa P

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6 cups..2 cup 3x a day 7 am,noon and 6pm I just increased the amount a couple of weeks ago because he was sitting by his bowl waiting for food at 3 pm
 

Lisa P

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If he's not better in a week the Vet wants to do blood work. Seriously have never had such a sensitive dog
 

ruthcatrin

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Lisa, what food are you feeding? I'm sure you said somewhere but I'm to lazy to go dig back through the thread.
 

Lisa P

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castor and Pollux grain free ,poultry free salmon and sweet potato. We tried to switch to ToTW Sierra Mountain two weeks ago and in one meal he broke out in hives.We are using his kibble for treats also so he isn't getting any thing else now.
 

ruthcatrin

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Could be a too much food issue again. They're recommending 3-4.5 cups for a dog in his weight range.

The food has peas in it already so you could probly add some peas or green beans to help fill him up a little if he's acting really hungry.
 

ruthcatrin

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Don't be afraid to increase if he actually starts to loose weight, but like me and MF said, seeing a couple ribs isn't a bad thing!
 

marke

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Your average bone in drumstick contains about 48 grams of bone, which means that you're adding an average of 4800mg (4.8grams) of calcium to her diet.

I've lost track of how much she weighs and which food she's on, but lets say 60lbs on the Acana duck and pear. According to their website that formula has 1.3% calcium, or 1.3g of calcium for every 100g fed. A 66lb dog should be fed between 270g and 400g a day according to their instructions, so 3.51g to 5.2 grams of calcium.

So giving her an extra chicken drumstick a day doubles her calcium intake.

She's less than 1yr old.

Are you TRYING to screw up her growth??
I would never tell someone what to do in regard to the health of their dog ....... I would only say what I have done , or would consider doing . I have raised quite a few orthopedically sound ddb .... I may be wrong , but I believe the calcium phosphorus ration is in correct proportions in something like a chicken leg , as I think that is one of the arguments for raw feeding ? I believe caloric intake , exercise and genetics are the main factors in raising an orthopedically sound large breed dog . I think if you adjust the caloric intake of the pup your feeding the chicken leg , you wouldn't be disrupting the calcium phosphorus ratio . I believe you need to look at percent calcium/phosphorus intake against caloric intake , not the weight of food ..........as far as the other vitamin mineral contents of the food , you may disrupt something , but none of it seems that exact to me . keep them lean and exercise them properly .... seems to have kept them together for me .....
 

ruthcatrin

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I may be wrong , but I believe the calcium phosphorus ration is in correct proportions in something like a chicken leg , as I think that is one of the arguments for raw feeding ? .

Erm, no, if the bone content is 10% of the total then yes, thats balanced, and the calcium and phos numbers are at dang near perfect ratio, but a drumstick by itself is 30% or more bone, which is way to much calcium. And there's no way to to subtract the extra calcium from the kibble to make the difference.
 

mountainfila

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I would have to say the dogs body gets rid of excess calcium in the form of chalky white poop lol, I would think that calcium in its purest form (bone) would possibly go through a dog faster then say processed calcium in say kibble, which would be powdered and stay in the system longer being digested with the other things that make up the kibble, so out of that 30% how much calcium is going straight through the dog and how much of that 30% is being absorbed by the dog's body?

Just like humans what ever the body cant use it gets rid of via kidneys or other means lol, that's why vitamins are a waste of money of you are hitting all the food groups your getting all the vitamins your body needs, most people that take vitamins are eating correctly so in other words their pissing away their money literally hahahahahaha
 
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Penelope's Mom

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I cut P down to one cup of food for her lunch and dinner. Although her poop is better (and less) she damn near attacked me for my popcorn last night. lol
 

ruthcatrin

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I would have to say the dogs body gets rid of excess calcium in the form of chalky white poop lol, I would think that calcium in its purest form (bone) would possibly go through a dog faster then say processed calcium in say kibble, which would be powdered and stay in the system longer being digested with the other things that make up the kibble, so out of that 30% how much calcium is going straight through the dog and how much of that 30% is being absorbed by the dog's body?

Just like humans what ever the body cant use it gets rid of via kidneys or other means lol, that's why vitamins are a waste of money of you are hitting all the food groups your getting all the vitamins your body needs, most people that take vitamins are eating correctly so in other words their pissing away their money literally hahahahahaha

The body does get rid of it, but it doesn't get rid of it enough, or fast enough maybe. Admittedly the studies done on the subject used processed calcium, but in this case, where adding a drumstick to the diet would double the calcium intake (and half of that would be processed calcium from the kibble).....
 
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