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dantesmom

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Hi guys! My name is Julia, and I'm new to the forum :)
I'll be bringing home a Bullmastiff puppy in a week or so (we named him Dante).
We've gotten him from a breeder (as they've claimed, although not CKC registered), but I still have a few concerns.

1. He's got HUGE areas of white markings, even on his nose bridge and one of his paws. (The breeder said they would reduce the price because he's got too much white for the standard). It leaves me wondering, if he's a purebred, is it possible to have THAT much white?

2. I've done lots of research and have noticed that SOME bullmastiffs have REALLY flappy flews (the upper lips), and some don't. Do you guys know if there are factors that decide whether or not my puppy is going to have VERY flappy lips when fully grown? Or just the regular flappy lips?

3. I've heard that feeding the Bullmastiff raw is the best diet option. Is that true?

I might have more questions as the days go by (I'm too excited and can't stop thinking about Dante and bringing him home ><), and will update this post. Until then, ANY replies and answers or suggestions will be SUPER appreciated! Thanks in advance, guys!

I've attached some of Dante's pics and his parents' pics, take a look and help me out guys! :D
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musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Welcome aboard and congrats on your new family member~ Dante is adorable! Is this a reputable breeder? I'm sure some BM members will post about the lips. Are you showing Dante? He does appear to have a lot of white but IMO, makes him a unique pup. Generally, BM's have black markings on the mask.

The following tips/suggestions are based on my experience as a dog mommy, forum member*s posts and volunteering at an animal shelter for a year.

*CRATE THE PUP

You want to crate train the pup. Make sure you have a blanket, stuffed animal (about their size) and white noise (ticking clock or ipod with soft music) so the pup can sleep. The pup is used to cuddling with siblings.

Make the crate the pup*s happy place to go to when he wants to sleep, decompress or just hang out.

*SECURE THE PUP NEAR THE FAMILY

You want to keep the pup in a room with a family member. Mastiffs need to be near their family members.

*FOOD

Find out what kind of food the shelter/rescue/breeder was feeding the pup and continue to feed it to the pup until you transition to a newer food because most shelters/rescues/breeders use the cheapest food, meaning it is not very good for the pup.

Slow transition to the new food is as follows to prevent diarrhea. If at any time during the transition, the pup has diarrhea return to previous amounts of food per feeding. If you are switching flavors made by the same manufacturer, you should not have to do a slow transition.

Amount per feeding:

Day 1-4 ¾ cup of old food and ¼ cup of new food.

Day 5-9 ½ cup of old food and ½ cup of new food.

Day 10-14 ¾ cup of new food and ¼ cup of old food

Day 15 Start 100% of new food

Generally, mastiffs are allergic to grain and chicken found in kibble. You can check www.dogfoodadvisor.com for dog food ratings and customer feedback. Mastiff puppies should eat Large Breed adult food because puppy food has too much calcium which causes fast growth. Slow and steady growth for a healthy mastiff. Protein in the food is not an issue unless the pup has kidney issues.


Check out Acana Regionals, Wellness Core, Earthborn Holistics, Fromm*s or Taste of the Wild. Chewy.com is a great place to order dog food and they offer free shipping.

You may want to check out the raw diet for your pup. Check out the sub forum on raw diet that has a wealth of information. It is not recommended to feed the pup kibble (one with grains) and raw food. Do your research re: raw diet and form your own opinion.

*PUP NOT EATING WHEN YOU FIRST BRING THEM HOME

They are not used to their new environment and this is a natural behavior. Take the pup to a quiet place at meal times and sit and hand feed the pup. This will help the pup to eat when they are placed in a calm atmosphere, help you to bond with the pup and help the pup establish trust with you. As they become settled, they will naturally follow your routine.

*PROTECT THE PUP FROM DISEASE

Keep the pup in your yard and place newspapers down where they will walk on the ground. Keep the pup away from dog areas unless they have had their 2nd round of shots, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round of shots is best so they will have some immunity to the infectious diseases, i.e. Parvo. This is very important!

*HOUSE TRAINING YOUR PUP

http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-behavior/house-training-your-puppy

*SOCIALIZE, SOCIALIZE AND SOCIALIZE SOME MORE

Socialize after they*ve had at least 2 round of shots preferably 3 rounds of shots to be safe. Prior to the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] or 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round of shots, keep the pup in your own yard. If that is not possible, bring newspapers with you for the pup to walk on. Avoid dog parks and areas with a heavy traffic of animals.

Socialization can be the human park while the pup is on leash, riding in the car, sitting at the park or shopping center/mall, etc.

Tell strangers and strangers with pups “no touch, no talk, no look” at your pup as they approach. Bring your pup to sit while they approach. Have your pup approach the strangers and allow the pup to sniff them. Have a calm, controlled meeting. This shows your pup the correct way to greet strangers and other pups.

*TRAINING YOUR PUP

Start basic commands and reward with motivational treats (fav food or fav toy). Train for about 5 minutes per day and slowly increase the training time. Teach one command at a time. Once they master one command, move onto another command.


Number one command is sit. Teach the pup to sit, by placing a treat in front of his head and move it to the back causing him to sit to get the treat. When the pup sits, tell them good sit and give them the treat.

Second command should be "focus/look" This will help you tremendously when the pup is over 100 lbs. Put the pup into sit. With a treat in your hand (let the pup smell it), put the treat up to your eyes and tell the pup to look or focus. They may only do this for about 1-2 seconds. As soon as they look at your eyes, reward them. Generally, mastiffs do not like to look anyone in the eyes for long because that means a challenge to them.

Other commands are "down/off", "leave it," "wait" (short pause), "stay" (pausing until you release), drop it and "quiet/calm".

When you are training and when the pup does not do as you ask, then tell him “no” in a calm, stern voice and redirect back to the command. The only time a stern and loud NO should be used is when they are doing something that can cause harm to themselves or others.


Praise is the most powerful tool you have and the dog WANTS to please you. Show them clearly what you want, notice and praise when they comply, and learning goes much faster and pleasant for you both.

Mastiffs can be extremely stubborn and if you get frustrated with them, they will shut down and stop listening to you. Mastiffs do not do well with yelling or hitting. Hitting can result in some unwanted mastiff behavior meaning fear aggression, which equals biting.

*LEASH TRAINING

Have the wear the leash around the house to get used to it. Once they are used to the leash around their neck, then you can start the leash training. Have lots of motivational rewards on hand while doing the training. Consistency and patience is key.

If the dog pulls, do not walk until they stop and turn to look at you, then thank them with a motivational reward and start walking again. Tell him it's ok to walk by you start walking. When you have to stop, tell him stop or wait and tell him sit. Titan knows that when we are walking and I say, "wait," he has to stop and sit and wait for me to begin walking again. Requires a lot of consistent training and patience. Do this inside the house and then move to outside.

If they nip at you because they want to play, do the same. Stop, sit and wait. Reward the dog with motivational reward when they do the commands.


*PUPPY BITING/NIPPING/AROUND CHILDREN

Puppies will chew/bite anything they can find unless you re-direct the chewing/biting. Provide frozen washcloths or small towels (make sure the cloths are big enough the pup cannot swallow them), ice cubes with treats frozen in the middle, nylabones, ropes, deer antlers, Kongs with frozen yogurt so they can chew to their heart*s desire. Some people use boxes, be aware that the pup will continue to chew all boxes.

If you puppy is biting/nipping, then try the following. This behavior can sometimes take a lot of patience and consistency in training.

They bite and growl because that is how they played with their siblings.
When they bite, tell them “OW” in a high-pitched voice and “NO” in a stern, calm voice. NEVER HIT OR YELL AT A MASTIFF. Hitting can lead to fear aggression and yelling causes the pup to shut down on you and ignore you.

When the pup stops biting, tell them to sit and re-direct to one of the chew toys.

**Do not allow children and pup on the floor together. Pup will see them as playmates and nip at them. Picture the pup playing with their siblings.

Keep the pup on leash while the children are on the floor so you can have control of the pup. Pup and children should not be allowed to play alone.

Have the children hand fed the pup and help with training, i.e. teach the pup to sit, stay and come. This helps the pup to see them as non-playmates but as people in authority. These activities are great bonding exercises.

*EXERCISE

Puppies can exercise with natural movements and free play like running, stretching, playing on soft surfaces (grass and dirt). This type of exercise is actually healthy and good for their developing bodies but they do need to be able to pace themselves.

Structured exercise/play on hard surfaces and where they don't have they ability to pace themselves is where you need to be very careful. This type of exercise could harm the pup*s joints and bones. Puppies should not do any excessive exercise, i.e. walking, jumping, running and navigate stairs for the first 12 months to avoid injury.

Stairs should be maneuvered while on leash (even in the house) especially going down the stairs. Stairs should have carpet or rubber matting to give the pup traction. Mastiffs should be assisted up and down stairs until they are about age 12 months to prevent injury.

Most mastiffs can be very lazy but they still need to exercise. Generally, the amount of time to exercise is 5 minutes per each month of age.

*YOUR PUP AND HEAT (NOT THE FEMALE HEAT)

Remember, mastiffs do not tolerate heat. In the heat, reduce walk/exercise times. Have clean water available at all times. I freeze towels to either place on Titan or put on the floor for him to lie on in the summer to cool him off. Buy a kiddies* pool for the pup to play in to keep cool.

*DE-SEXING YOUR PUP

Mastiffs should not be neutered/spayed until 18 months to 2 years. NO MATTER what the vet says. Early neutering can cause growth problems and health issues. **Remember, you must be a very responsible dog owner to not neuter your pet to prevent unwanted pregnancies.**


Health Issues Linked to Spaying and Neutering Dogs


Enjoy your baby! Have lots of patience! The pup will reward you with love and loyalty!
 

dantesmom

Well-Known Member
Thank you so much for the reply! It was very informative :) It was nice to wake up on the morning of Dante's last vet visit and see a long detailed reply like yours. What concerns me is to not neuter him until 18 months to 2 years. Could he have a lot of behavioral problems until then? How do you usually cope? I've never had a male dog :( I currently have a female golden retriever, got her spayed at 6 months.

Welcome aboard and congrats on your new family member~ Dante is adorable! Is this a reputable breeder? I'm sure some BM members will post about the lips. Are you showing Dante? He does appear to have a lot of white but IMO, makes him a unique pup. Generally, BM's have black markings on the mask.

The following tips/suggestions are based on my experience as a dog mommy, forum member*s posts and volunteering at an animal shelter for a year.

*CRATE THE PUP

You want to crate train the pup. Make sure you have a blanket, stuffed animal (about their size) and white noise (ticking clock or ipod with soft music) so the pup can sleep. The pup is used to cuddling with siblings.

Make the crate the pup*s happy place to go to when he wants to sleep, decompress or just hang out.

*SECURE THE PUP NEAR THE FAMILY

You want to keep the pup in a room with a family member. Mastiffs need to be near their family members.

*FOOD

Find out what kind of food the shelter/rescue/breeder was feeding the pup and continue to feed it to the pup until you transition to a newer food because most shelters/rescues/breeders use the cheapest food, meaning it is not very good for the pup.

Slow transition to the new food is as follows to prevent diarrhea. If at any time during the transition, the pup has diarrhea return to previous amounts of food per feeding. If you are switching flavors made by the same manufacturer, you should not have to do a slow transition.

Amount per feeding:

Day 1-4 ¾ cup of old food and ¼ cup of new food.

Day 5-9 ½ cup of old food and ½ cup of new food.

Day 10-14 ¾ cup of new food and ¼ cup of old food

Day 15 Start 100% of new food

Generally, mastiffs are allergic to grain and chicken found in kibble. You can check www.dogfoodadvisor.com for dog food ratings and customer feedback. Mastiff puppies should eat Large Breed adult food because puppy food has too much calcium which causes fast growth. Slow and steady growth for a healthy mastiff. Protein in the food is not an issue unless the pup has kidney issues.


Check out Acana Regionals, Wellness Core, Earthborn Holistics, Fromm*s or Taste of the Wild. Chewy.com is a great place to order dog food and they offer free shipping.

You may want to check out the raw diet for your pup. Check out the sub forum on raw diet that has a wealth of information. It is not recommended to feed the pup kibble (one with grains) and raw food. Do your research re: raw diet and form your own opinion.

*PUP NOT EATING WHEN YOU FIRST BRING THEM HOME

They are not used to their new environment and this is a natural behavior. Take the pup to a quiet place at meal times and sit and hand feed the pup. This will help the pup to eat when they are placed in a calm atmosphere, help you to bond with the pup and help the pup establish trust with you. As they become settled, they will naturally follow your routine.

*PROTECT THE PUP FROM DISEASE

Keep the pup in your yard and place newspapers down where they will walk on the ground. Keep the pup away from dog areas unless they have had their 2nd round of shots, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round of shots is best so they will have some immunity to the infectious diseases, i.e. Parvo. This is very important!

*HOUSE TRAINING YOUR PUP

http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-behavior/house-training-your-puppy

*SOCIALIZE, SOCIALIZE AND SOCIALIZE SOME MORE

Socialize after they*ve had at least 2 round of shots preferably 3 rounds of shots to be safe. Prior to the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] or 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] round of shots, keep the pup in your own yard. If that is not possible, bring newspapers with you for the pup to walk on. Avoid dog parks and areas with a heavy traffic of animals.

Socialization can be the human park while the pup is on leash, riding in the car, sitting at the park or shopping center/mall, etc.

Tell strangers and strangers with pups “no touch, no talk, no look†at your pup as they approach. Bring your pup to sit while they approach. Have your pup approach the strangers and allow the pup to sniff them. Have a calm, controlled meeting. This shows your pup the correct way to greet strangers and other pups.

*TRAINING YOUR PUP

Start basic commands and reward with motivational treats (fav food or fav toy). Train for about 5 minutes per day and slowly increase the training time. Teach one command at a time. Once they master one command, move onto another command.


Number one command is sit. Teach the pup to sit, by placing a treat in front of his head and move it to the back causing him to sit to get the treat. When the pup sits, tell them good sit and give them the treat.

Second command should be "focus/look" This will help you tremendously when the pup is over 100 lbs. Put the pup into sit. With a treat in your hand (let the pup smell it), put the treat up to your eyes and tell the pup to look or focus. They may only do this for about 1-2 seconds. As soon as they look at your eyes, reward them. Generally, mastiffs do not like to look anyone in the eyes for long because that means a challenge to them.

Other commands are "down/off", "leave it," "wait" (short pause), "stay" (pausing until you release), drop it and "quiet/calm".

When you are training and when the pup does not do as you ask, then tell him “no†in a calm, stern voice and redirect back to the command. The only time a stern and loud NO should be used is when they are doing something that can cause harm to themselves or others.


Praise is the most powerful tool you have and the dog WANTS to please you. Show them clearly what you want, notice and praise when they comply, and learning goes much faster and pleasant for you both.

Mastiffs can be extremely stubborn and if you get frustrated with them, they will shut down and stop listening to you. Mastiffs do not do well with yelling or hitting. Hitting can result in some unwanted mastiff behavior meaning fear aggression, which equals biting.

*LEASH TRAINING

Have the wear the leash around the house to get used to it. Once they are used to the leash around their neck, then you can start the leash training. Have lots of motivational rewards on hand while doing the training. Consistency and patience is key.

If the dog pulls, do not walk until they stop and turn to look at you, then thank them with a motivational reward and start walking again. Tell him it's ok to walk by you start walking. When you have to stop, tell him stop or wait and tell him sit. Titan knows that when we are walking and I say, "wait," he has to stop and sit and wait for me to begin walking again. Requires a lot of consistent training and patience. Do this inside the house and then move to outside.

If they nip at you because they want to play, do the same. Stop, sit and wait. Reward the dog with motivational reward when they do the commands.


*PUPPY BITING/NIPPING/AROUND CHILDREN

Puppies will chew/bite anything they can find unless you re-direct the chewing/biting. Provide frozen washcloths or small towels (make sure the cloths are big enough the pup cannot swallow them), ice cubes with treats frozen in the middle, nylabones, ropes, deer antlers, Kongs with frozen yogurt so they can chew to their heart*s desire. Some people use boxes, be aware that the pup will continue to chew all boxes.

If you puppy is biting/nipping, then try the following. This behavior can sometimes take a lot of patience and consistency in training.

They bite and growl because that is how they played with their siblings.
When they bite, tell them “OW†in a high-pitched voice and “NO†in a stern, calm voice. NEVER HIT OR YELL AT A MASTIFF. Hitting can lead to fear aggression and yelling causes the pup to shut down on you and ignore you.

When the pup stops biting, tell them to sit and re-direct to one of the chew toys.

**Do not allow children and pup on the floor together. Pup will see them as playmates and nip at them. Picture the pup playing with their siblings.

Keep the pup on leash while the children are on the floor so you can have control of the pup. Pup and children should not be allowed to play alone.

Have the children hand fed the pup and help with training, i.e. teach the pup to sit, stay and come. This helps the pup to see them as non-playmates but as people in authority. These activities are great bonding exercises.

*EXERCISE

Puppies can exercise with natural movements and free play like running, stretching, playing on soft surfaces (gr$#@! and dirt). This type of exercise is actually healthy and good for their developing bodies but they do need to be able to pace themselves.

Structured exercise/play on hard surfaces and where they don't have they ability to pace themselves is where you need to be very careful. This type of exercise could harm the pup*s joints and bones. Puppies should not do any excessive exercise, i.e. walking, jumping, running and navigate stairs for the first 12 months to avoid injury.

Stairs should be maneuvered while on leash (even in the house) especially going down the stairs. Stairs should have carpet or rubber matting to give the pup traction. Mastiffs should be $#@!isted up and down stairs until they are about age 12 months to prevent injury.

Most mastiffs can be very lazy but they still need to exercise. Generally, the amount of time to exercise is 5 minutes per each month of age.

*YOUR PUP AND HEAT (NOT THE FEMALE HEAT)

Remember, mastiffs do not tolerate heat. In the heat, reduce walk/exercise times. Have clean water available at all times. I freeze towels to either place on Titan or put on the floor for him to lie on in the summer to cool him off. Buy a kiddies* pool for the pup to play in to keep cool.

*DE-SEXING YOUR PUP

Mastiffs should not be neutered/spayed until 18 months to 2 years. NO MATTER what the vet says. Early neutering can cause growth problems and health issues. **Remember, you must be a very responsible dog owner to not neuter your pet to prevent unwanted pregnancies.**


Health Issues Linked to Spaying and Neutering Dogs


Enjoy your baby! Have lots of patience! The pup will reward you with love and loyalty!
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
Delay of or not at all neutering your boy will help him to receive full benefits from the hormones he needs to grow. There are mixed reports of neutering helping with behavior, i.e. dog to dog aggression.

I've alway owned males. My last 3 consisted of border collie/cocker spaniel mix, GSD/Chow mix and Siberian Husky. The BC/CS and SH constantly fought for top dog, the BC/CS kept the top dog position until he passed away. The vet recommended we neuter the SH and we did (wish I knew then what I know now), it helped maybe a little but they still would tango. Finally the SH accepted BC/CS was top dog. They all lived to be 13 years of age.

Male and female combinations usually work out and the female usually likes to be top dog. Since Dante is a pup bringing him into the household, they should be ok. Your female will help to show Dante what is proper etiquette re: playing.

Leerburg Dog Training | Introducing a New Dog into a Home with Other Dogs
 

Smokeycat

Well-Known Member
I'm not the owner of a BM, I have an EM, but given the pictures you posted of the parents I wouldn't think that his flews are going to be that long.
He's a cute boy even if he doesn't match standard.
 

DennasMom

Well-Known Member
Cute puppy!!

Q1 - I think there's just random white in the BM genes... you can probably breed that out, over the long term, but I don't think having large white patches means anything bad about his genes. Could be the breeder was focused more on temperament, which would be a good thing for a family dog.

Q2 - Not sure how you tell the size of the flews, other than looking at the parents. Denna (EM) has good sized flews, but is 'dry' most of time. She only drools when there are good smells around - like out walking, or if she thinks she might get a bit of treat or food... then the water works really start running. :)

Q3 - Raw is great, but there are lots of good quality kibbles out there, too. If you do any sort of home-prepared food, you need to be sure to do your research and provide proper nutrition, especially for a growing puppy.

Neutering - with proper training, the behaviors everyone considers tied to hormones are still completely controllable. Removing hormones does effect growth patterns, so it's best to leave them intact as long as possible. Many people here have intact males and never get them neutered... with no adverse issues. So, I'd say as long as you plan on good socialization and training practices early on, whether or not the 'bits' are still there should have little to no effect.

Keep the pictures coming! can't wait to hear more about your new guy!
 

dantesmom

Well-Known Member
Thanks! It's really good to know that our golden girl will get along with the BM puppy. I've never thought that it would be a problem since our golden had always been a very social and playful, but your reply helped me understand that she will be the one teaching him manners. :D
Delay of or not at all neutering your boy will help him to receive full benefits from the hormones he needs to grow. There are mixed reports of neutering helping with behavior, i.e. dog to dog aggression.

I've alway owned males. My last 3 consisted of border collie/$#@!er spaniel mix, GSD/Chow mix and Siberian Husky. The BC/CS and SH constantly fought for top dog, the BC/CS kept the top dog position until he passed away. The vet recommended we neuter the SH and we did (wish I knew then what I know now), it helped maybe a little but they still would tango. Finally the SH accepted BC/CS was top dog. They all lived to be 13 years of age.

Male and female combinations usually work out and the female usually likes to be top dog. Since Dante is a pup bringing him into the household, they should be ok. Your female will help to show Dante what is proper etiquette re: playing.

Leerburg Dog Training | Introducing a New Dog into a Home with Other Dogs
 

dantesmom

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I was hoping/guessing the flews would just be a genetic thing. So I was hoping he'd end up looking like his dad xD
I'm not the owner of a BM, I have an EM, but given the pictures you posted of the parents I wouldn't think that his flews are going to be that long.
He's a cute boy even if he doesn't match standard.
 

dantesmom

Well-Known Member
It's definitely a good thing if the breeder focuses more on the temperament than the appearance of their pups! :)
I think the breeder is currently feeding him Royal Canin, I might stick with it for a while, see how it goes, then possibly slowly transition it on to something else, possibly raw. But I'll make sure I make it a balanced and complete diet for him.
If behaviour is not going to be a problem with intact males, I do plan to leave him intact until at 1.5-2 years old. Thanks for the suggestions!

I will definitely update you guys with more pics once I get them from the breeder! They said it's his final vet visit today, and if all goes well, we might just be able to pick him up this Sunday!

BTW, if we do pick him up this Sunday, he'd be only 7 weeks old. Would that be a bad thing?
Cute puppy!!

Q1 - I think there's just random white in the BM genes... you can probably breed that out, over the long term, but I don't think having large white patches means anything bad about his genes. Could be the breeder was focused more on temperament, which would be a good thing for a family dog.

Q2 - Not sure how you tell the size of the flews, other than looking at the parents. Denna (EM) has good sized flews, but is 'dry' most of time. She only drools when there are good smells around - like out walking, or if she thinks she might get a bit of treat or food... then the water works really start running. :)

Q3 - Raw is great, but there are lots of good quality kibbles out there, too. If you do any sort of home-prepared food, you need to be sure to do your research and provide proper nutrition, especially for a growing puppy.

Neutering - with proper training, the behaviors everyone considers tied to hormones are still completely controllable. Removing hormones does effect growth patterns, so it's best to leave them intact as long as possible. Many people here have intact males and never get them neutered... with no adverse issues. So, I'd say as long as you plan on good socialization and training practices early on, whether or not the 'bits' are still there should have little to no effect.

Keep the pictures coming! can't wait to hear more about your new guy!
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
7 weeks is a little too young to take away from mom and siblings. Siblings also help with teaching the pup proper play. It's best to let them stay with mom and siblings at least 8-10 weeks.
 

dantesmom

Well-Known Member
:/ I'm having a bit of dilemma here.. We're about 4.5 hours drive from their farm, and they agreed to do a delivery halfway. Originally we were going to get him on Oct 4 which is when he's exactly 8 weeks, but the breeder said they will have to do a delivery to the same place this weekend anyway, so if all goes well at the final vet visit, they will bring our puppy along too. I really want him badly, but I am also concerned about what you said about keeping him around siblings and mom until 8 weeks. If the breeder contacts me today and tell me they will deliver him this weekend, should I take the offer or tell them we wanna wait till next weekend? D: (I hope I didn't confuse anyone..)

7 weeks is a little too young to take away from mom and siblings. Siblings also help with teaching the pup proper play. It's best to let them stay with mom and siblings at least 8-10 weeks.
 

ripnlee

Well-Known Member
What a cute wee baby, I agree with musicdeb its good to let them stay with their siblings to learn skills, when we picked our 2 up we did it in a 5 hour turnaround road trip they were 13 weeks old we could have had them at 11 but had just bought a house so they kept them 2 weeks longer, was the best as they came to us basically house trained lol Looking forward to watching your baby grow, good luck your in the right place for excellent advice here enjoy and welcome.
 

dantesmom

Well-Known Member
Thank you! :) We most likely won't end up taking him home fully house trained unfortunately :/ since the puppy is ready pretty much right now. I will update with pictures as he grows though!:D
What a cute wee baby, I agree with musicdeb its good to let them stay with their siblings to learn skills, when we picked our 2 up we did it in a 5 hour turnaround road trip they were 13 weeks old we could have had them at 11 but had just bought a house so they kept them 2 weeks longer, was the best as they came to us basically house trained lol Looking forward to watching your baby grow, good luck your in the right place for excellent advice here enjoy and welcome.
 

ruby55

Well-Known Member
It looks like Dante has a milk nose that never went away. That's more white than acceptable by breed standards, but it sounds like this breeder doesn't breed for the ring anyway. As long as his mom & dad have good temperaments, I'd be thrilled with him.
Neither parent has large flews, they're pretty average sized. Dante's probably only going to need one slobber rag at a time. ") You might get lucky & get what's known as a dry mouth; they don't drool much.
I can't comment on raw vs. dry, since all of our dogs are on kibble. Two of them are therapy dogs, & raw is frowned on in the therapy dog world.
White nose or not, Dante is adorable. Congrat's on your new family member. I can't wait to see pics of him with your girl. BTW after mastiffs, goldens are my favorite breed.
 

ruby55

Well-Known Member
And the whole neuter thing? None of our were spayed/neutered until they were at least 3 years old. Our boy Sunny was neutered at 5, & only because he was having serious prostate problems.
 

musicdeb

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:/ I'm having a bit of dilemma here.. We're about 4.5 hours drive from their farm, and they agreed to do a delivery halfway. Originally we were going to get him on Oct 4 which is when he's exactly 8 weeks, but the breeder said they will have to do a delivery to the same place this weekend anyway, so if all goes well at the final vet visit, they will bring our puppy along too. I really want him badly, but I am also concerned about what you said about keeping him around siblings and mom until 8 weeks. If the breeder contacts me today and tell me they will deliver him this weekend, should I take the offer or tell them we wanna wait till next weekend? D: (I hope I didn't confuse anyone..)
If you have to pick him up this weekend then you have to pick him up. He's going to be sad because he's leaving his siblings and mom, remember to place those things in his crate in my previous post regarding new puppy. With proper training and socialization, he will just fine. :)
 

dantesmom

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How much does Sunny weigh right now? :eek:

And the whole neuter thing? None of our were spayed/neutered until they were at least 3 years old. Our boy Sunny was neutered at 5, & only because he was having serious prostate problems.
 

dantesmom

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The breeder said they will give us a towel that has mother's scent on it so I'll make sure to put that in his crate. Plus, I'll make sure he socializes properly too. :D Thanks!

If you have to pick him up this weekend then you have to pick him up. He's going to be sad because he's leaving his siblings and mom, remember to place those things in his crate in my previous post regarding new puppy. With proper training and socialization, he will just fine. :)