Reputable Bullmastiff Breeders...

Discussion in 'The Bullmastiff' started by jbhuff10, Feb 19, 2016.

  1. jbhuff10

    jbhuff10 New Member

    In the following states: Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio, West Virgina, Virginia, indiana, North Carolina, South Carolina, or Georgia. Does anyone have any recommendations? Any info is greatly appreciated.
     
  2. JennyC

    JennyC New Member

    I could only help out in the state of NY. Sorry... Good luck in your search though...
     
  3. tmricciuto

    tmricciuto New Member

    I don't have any info either. Have you done a search on the forum?
     
  4. Hiraeth

    Hiraeth Active Member

    There are a few on the ABA (American Bullmastiff Association) website that fit your critera:

    Ohio - Faithdriven Bullmastiff Dogs and Puppies in Ohio - Has a current litter of puppies (if you're in a rush) from a UKC CH bitch and a UKC/AKC CH sire who both have CGCs and multiple sport titles. Not sure if all of the puppies are spoken for or not.

    North Carolina - index - Has a litter due in March from a GCH sire. I'm not a huge fan of the bitch, but it's your puppy and maybe she fits your aesthetic.

    Georgia - Home - They do a lot with their dogs, which I like to see. Their best bitch is "Ch Beowulf A Mother’s Glory VCD1 (CD & TD), BN, RE, OA, OAJ, NAP, NJP, OFP, THD, CAX, CGC, WDV2, WDA1, NAC, ASNA, TT, UCD, TDI1", which proves they breed more than just conformation dogs. Not sure about upcoming litters as their site isn't updated frequently, so you'd have to e-mail and ask.
     
  5. tmricciuto

    tmricciuto New Member

    When I clicked on the second link the first thing that came up was about a dog "ruby" who has had 14 litters. That seems like an awful lot of litters to me.
     
  6. Hiraeth

    Hiraeth Active Member

    He's a male. I don't think it's at all uncommon for high quality males, especially in rarer breeds like Bullmastiffs, to sire that many litters. It actually is a huge credit to his quality if he was studded out that many times, less of a credit if they were all 'in-kennel' breedings, but I doubt they were.
     
  7. tmricciuto

    tmricciuto New Member

    My mistake. I thought Ruby and thought girl.


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  8. Hiraeth

    Hiraeth Active Member

    Easy mistake to make! I looked through all of those sites thoroughly and looked into each of their 'best' dogs and would feel comfortable buying from any of them, as far as I could tell. I'd never recommend someone else look at them, otherwise. :)
     
  9. NYDDB

    NYDDB Well-Known Member

    Except his name is "Rudy", not "Ruby." Much more masculine of a name... :)
     
  10. Mario

    Mario New Member

  11. Hiraeth

    Hiraeth Active Member

    I don't want to knock any breeders, but when I see someone breeding dogs, I want them to be breeding with a purpose, personally. I want to see them DOING something with the dogs they're producing. When I see a breeder who doesn't either have show, performance or working titles on their dogs, it makes me a little leery.
     
  12. Cur

    Cur Member

    100% agree.

    Take a look at the point totals on the AKC website for bullmastiff's, and that will tell you who is breeding to the standard. These breeders will also have companion pups out of their litters.

    Yes you'll probably pay more, but you are sure to get a pup that will be healthy, and have a wonderful temperament.

    Since you mentioned Indiana... I'll have to throw out our breeder, dal Primo bullmastiffs.


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  13. marke

    marke Well-Known Member

    I don't know if she still breeds , I bought a bullmastiff from Melkev's in Kentucky , if they're still around she's definitely got some experience ...... as far as looking toward show breeders as some kind of affirmation of health , I would disagree ........... you'd be best served looking at the dogs their breeding as opposed to what their breeding for ...... show breeders breed for type and to win , most of the times at all cost ...........

    here's the bullmastiff I bought from melkev's , I can tell you he was well bred as I got a look at his offspring , most all of them made 10 and 11 , he only lived to 9 , cancer .........

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  14. Cur

    Cur Member

    Meh.

    I 100% disagree with this. Dogs from breeders you see on the above list breed for betterment of the breed. Conformation showing is a byproduct of producing a world class dog. Not some overweight smush nosed thing "people" think looks 'good'.

    Go to their websites / Facebook pages are read about them. They'll all have very similar mission statements and it's easy to find their pedigrees of their litters going 4, 5, or 6 generations.

    There's a huge difference between breeders who care, and breeders who want money. Does your breeder do and list OFA testing for eblows? hips? eyes? Echo cardiac testing? Mine does.

    Don't lump them together because of your opinions, do some research and learn about them. Be wary of general statements like "show breeders breed for type and to win... at all cost", because it's just not true and muddies the waters when people want to learn about bullmastiffs.
     
  15. marke

    marke Well-Known Member

    I can't speak on any breeder on your list , I don't know them or their dogs . I don't think there are breeders breeding dogs with problems for conformation competitions , I know it , and i know folks who have sold them the dogs knowing the dogs problems , it's not an opinion .........I've seen champion dogs , gr. champion dogs you couldn't pay me to take , I've put my hands on them , knew their pedigrees better than the folks showing and breeding them ....I wouldn't even begin to think a dog show judge could tell me if I had a good dog by looking at him/her for a couple minutes , the thought is ludicrous .. I've seen dogs used regardless of their health because of their pedigrees ....... I've seen "world class" dogs limp to a win on a "world class" stage ........ I've seen folks pay a professional handler to champion their dog that was far from "world class" . then use the dog for the "betterment of the breed" ....... health certs ? I've seen puppymills use them to market their unhealthy junk dogs ......... I don't believe all breeders are incompetent , or all incompetent breeders are breeding for money , I think many don't have a clue what a good dog is , and many just want to win for their ego's ..... a champion dog and a good dog have nothing to do with each other ......seeing a 6 generation pedigree is meaningless unless you know the dogs ........I know some very famous dogs that were linebred on that are responsible for a lot of genetic problems that plague some breeds i'm aware of ........ I don't have a breeder , my dogues are mine ..... as far as melkev's you'll have to ask her , I didn't buy my simon because of his parents health certs , I bought him because of his parents , and the folks that bred him were dog people ..... I wanted to breed to his father , it didn't work out , so I got pick pup in the breeding of two int. ch. dogs , both ROM dogs , that's an accomplishment for a bitch , both fully adult healthy dogs when bred , not 2 yr old puppies , I believe both lived to 10-11yrs ....... the best health cert a dog could possibly have is longevity , and overall health during that longevity ....... I agree there is a big difference between a breeder who cares about the pups they produce and the ones producing pups to make money ...... the problem is the best way to make money on pups is marketing with titles and health certs , even the puppymillers know that
     
  16. Boxergirl

    Boxergirl Well-Known Member

    Melkev's does show AKC and heath test. I considered them when I thought I might get a BM instead of a boxer a few years ago. My opinion is that the we all need to be informed buyers. Not all show breeders are great and not all hobby breeders are awful. While I love mastiffs, I consider my main breed to be boxers and I know them, and the health risks involved with owning them, very well. I also know that it would be foolish to even consider buying from a breeder that doesn't test for things like heart, and degenerative myelopathy. All breeders should health test, without exception, in my opinion. It is good to know the lines for things like cancer, of course, but if I can't get the other testing then I won't give them my money.
     
  17. marke

    marke Well-Known Member

    while I do agree , you need to do as much as possible when it comes to producing healthy puppies/dogs ......... the problem with health screens has a lot to do with the age at which a large portion of these dogs are bred , aside from the fact there will always be cheating where money is involved .......... a dog that dies from cardiomyopathy could very well have passed an echo at 2yrs ..... degenerative myelopathy may not be detectable until the dog is 8-10yrs old , or the dog may never be diagnosed and die from other causes , dogs who pass the dna test for dm do come down with it , dogs who fail it sometimes do not ..... dogs who pass an ofa hip cert at 2yrs can and do become dysplastic ..... dogs that "pass" a pennhip test , can be dysplastic at the time they pass .... the European hip test are even less reliable as they are done younger ....... a dog at 2 yrs may very well have normal thyroid function only to go on to have thyroiditis ............. allergies often do not become evident until a dog is 3,4 yrs old , or older ......there are lethal genetic diseases in dogs where they do not survive long enough to breed , you could not have a better health test , they persist ....possibly definitive dna test for these diseases would eliminate them , but I doubt it .. folks breeding for a "purpose" are usually in a hurry to move on to the next generation .............
     

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