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JRT2006

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Best I could do to reference his weight and body to the chart
 

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musicdeb

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Im a bit confused on the calcium to phosphorus ratio?
Am I wrong when looking at these numbers?

The food he currently eats has 1.2% calcium and .9% phosphorus. .is that not a 1.2:.9 ratio?

You said that it's too high, but when I look at all the suggestions for food, they appear much higher, or the same.
He's an adult pup so his calcium should be 0.5 to 0.9 and phosphorous should be 0.4 to 0.8.
 

JRT2006

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He's an adult pup so his calcium should be 0.5 to 0.9 and phosphorous should be 0.4 to 0.8.

Right, I understand that from the reading.
I just can't seem to locate a good dog food that has calcium or phosphorus in that range.

Everything is calcium 1.2-1.5% and phosphorous is 1.0-1.1%
 

musicdeb

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Did you check all of the foods listed for their C & P levels? You're not going to find one that fits the table perfectly but try to get as close as you can. If all you can find is 1.2-1.5% calcium and 1.0-1.1%, then you have to go with that.

Unfortunately, dog food companies try to have the appropriate levels of C & P, but it is hard to satisfy every stage of puppy to adult pup.

Even the food Titan is eating is calcium 1.5% and phosphorous 1.2%. I'm starting him on Castor & Pollux next week. Castor's food is: Calcium 1.20% and Phosphorous is 1.0%.

I had to make a choice of feeding grain and chicken free food because he's highly allergic vs finding the right balance of C & P.
 

JRT2006

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I did, the best I could find had chicken in it.
okay, it just confused me because the stuff I feed him now had the same numbers which are too high, so I wasn't sure if there was some math involved to.figure out the ratio that I wasn't doing.

Well that makes the selection much easier. I started him on the Acana Pacifica which i and him loved. The issue I had with delivery dog food was the delay in delivery due to a natural disaster left Cyrus with nothing to eat, so I had to.venture out to feed stores which is where I found the infinia.
so is this Infinia Salmon recipe out of question?
http://www.infiniapetfood.com/products/INFINIA_ZENSITIVE_SALMON.aspx
 

Lisa P

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Norman has been eating the Castor & Pollux ultra mix poultry free grain free for 3 months and is doing great on it! It is salmon which is kind of stinky and makes him smell like a bear but I don't mind,his skin is clear,fur super shiney and firm stool
 

JRT2006

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Norman has been eating the Castor & Pollux ultra mix poultry free grain free for 3 months and is doing great on it! It is salmon which is kind of stinky and makes him smell like a bear but I don't mind,his skin is clear,fur super shiney and firm stool

Thanks, that's what I'm leaning towards with two suggestions.
 

DMikeM

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The gas would be from the sweet potato (or table scraps). Any starches or plant matter will promote gas. Pretty much everything you will look at has some sort of potato in it. The only one I know of for sure that does not is the Taste of the Wild Southwest Canyon Formula with Wild Boar. It uses chickpeas (garbanzo beans) and green peas and Flax seed which technically is a grain. But it is a good food, my dogs like it and have almost no gas. I switch between this and Taste of the Wild High Prairie Dry Dog Food (sweet potatoes in it), every other month or so.
 

Lisa P

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Norman isn't gassy,he just smells different than any other dog I've had,I figured it was from the Salmon in the food making his skin smell different.
 

JRT2006

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Narrowed the location of the pain. While patting him on the side, this area here caused him to whine the loudest I've heard yet. Then I pressed on the area and it caused the whine again. Definitely where the pain is worst.
Now, he just woke up from from laying on that side for about 30-45 minutes so I'm not sure if that causes anything, but it is the side he seems to put less weight on when walking.

Trying to set up a vet appt friday
 

musicdeb

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Narrowed the location of the pain. While patting him on the side, this area here caused him to whine the loudest I've heard yet. Then I pressed on the area and it caused the whine again. Definitely where the pain is worst.
Now, he just woke up from from laying on that side for about 30-45 minutes so I'm not sure if that causes anything, but it is the side he seems to put less weight on when walking.

Trying to set up a vet appt friday
Let us know what the vet diagnosis for the poor boy.
 

JRT2006

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Well, the doc says it's a pinched nerve in his neck. Cyrus wouldn't let him turn his head to the right or up, muscle was a little stiff, and said pinched nerves in the neck usually send a false sense of pain radiating down one of the front legs, in his case, the right.
put him on a muscle relaxer and some anti-inflammatory meds and said in 2 weeks if there's no progress to return.
He's had one case in 25 years where he has diagnosed the same thing, but on an 8 year old rott, which turned out to be bone cancer, so in two weeks if he hasn't healed they'll do x ray
 

Hector

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Well, the doc says it's a pinched nerve in his neck. Cyrus wouldn't let him turn his head to the right or up, muscle was a little stiff, and said pinched nerves in the neck usually send a false sense of pain radiating down one of the front legs, in his case, the right.
put him on a muscle relaxer and some anti-inflammatory meds and said in 2 weeks if there's no progress to return.
He's had one case in 25 years where he has diagnosed the same thing, but on an 8 year old rott, which turned out to be bone cancer, so in two weeks if he hasn't healed they'll do x ray

Ohhh, I'm sorry. That really sucks. I hope the meds can help him and not have to deal with anything surgical, sighs.
 

musicdeb

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Well, the doc says it's a pinched nerve in his neck. Cyrus wouldn't let him turn his head to the right or up, muscle was a little stiff, and said pinched nerves in the neck usually send a false sense of pain radiating down one of the front legs, in his case, the right.
put him on a muscle relaxer and some anti-inflammatory meds and said in 2 weeks if there's no progress to return.
He's had one case in 25 years where he has diagnosed the same thing, but on an 8 year old rott, which turned out to be bone cancer, so in two weeks if he hasn't healed they'll do x ray
Let's hope it remains the pinched nerve in the neck and not bone cancer. Keep us posted on his progress.