Presa canario or Cane corso?

[Primehns]

Hey guys, i've been on the forum for a while, just wanted to say thanks for all the help, and sorry for all the excess posts, but just had a small question for presa/cc owners, i personally love both breeds, and think i have the research, knowledge, and soon to have environment, for the puppy to live out his life with me. So basically i have a dog, he's my first dog i haven't owned any other dogs, he's a golden retriever ( I know a novice dog ) but i just had a couple questions.

I know the dog's temperaments differ greatly, but would love some perspective from someone who owns both breeds, and can explain the dominance difference, overall the trainability comparision, the overall experience with either/or.

Recommendation as a second dog? Probably the Cane corso, as i've heard the Presa can be highly dominant and territorial.

Protection? I know these are both watch/guard dog breeds, just wondering how the differ in that perspective, is one more territorial, and more serious.

Dog aggression- i know socialization plays a huge part, but i'm guessing the presa shows more, what do you guys think?
Thank you all for the help, this may have been asked before, but...

 

[cookiedough39]

I have done research on both. I cannot give you first hand details on the Presa. But I have heard they are a more dominant and dog aggressive breed. All dogs are different. I cannot give a definite. But through my reading and asking around this was the case. I have been around many CC's but only 1 or 2 presa's. The presa's seemed to be more strong willed and not as much of "Velcro dogs."

 

[Gixxer]

Biggest issue with Cane Corso is consistency and breed-type variation; they are very inconsistent, and whereas there's at least two clear types in Presa's (/ Dogos), you have Traditional Cane Corso and the two psuedo types Euro-Corso (heavy Neo, Boxer, AmStaff) and US-Corso (Neo, Rott and AmStaff/Pit).

When you get a good one, they are very good dogs. They are taller and often times bigger than many Presa's in overall weight (usually detrimental) but are longer legged and narrower, as they are supposed to be a coursing mastiff first and foremost, they are not primarilly a catch (butcher's) dog. The good ones I've seen tend to be better disposed toward strangers as adults than good Presa's

 

[Primehns]

The breed consistency, i've heard about, i see many breeders who's dog's look completely different. Can you expand on the types? I really like the bulky cane corso's, but want a healthy dog as well, not purely for size. Godfathercanecorso, has a ridiculously huge dog, which doesn't look healthy at all, and breaks the standards by atleast 50lbs.

 

[cookiedough39]

I actually considered getting a pup from godfather cane corso. He has some good lines. His pups where on the lower side price wise ($1500), if I remember correctly. His stud was just all size and didn't have enough drive for what I was looking for. I saw his stud in person and he is not fat. He was just to big to be as athletic as I would like my CC to be. He was all of 170 lbs when I saw him.

 

[Cody]

So much I could say about that particular stud and breeder but as he is not here there will be no comment except that is NOT a "breeder" (using this term loosely) I would even consider. I honestly, given what has been posted, do not think a CC or a Presa are the right breeds for you.

 

[julesPerrodePresa]

can't speak for CC but can give you first hand advice on the presa.
firstly, the presa is dominant by nature, you as an owner have to be the "pack leader" to avoid any problems in the future. it's not about will the presa rule or will the retriever rule, it about YOU. both dogs will have to obey you ( if you're unsure about what that means or how it looks like, i suggest meeting with some presa owners to see this first hand)
secondly, the retriever will be older and will automatically set the hierarchy in the pack but again, YOU must be the top of the pyramid and then the retriever and then the presa. As the presa will grow older he will challenge the retriever or the retriever will automatically allow the presa in front, as it is in their nature to be submisive ( labs and retrievers are the most submisive dogs).
any other question, feel free to ask, but I beg you don't get a presa or cc if you don't KNOW you could handle the breeds. and if you do get a pup strongly advise you to get from a reputable breeder where you can see the pups with BOTH parents, observ the nature of the parents and of the pups and only then make your decision. it took me a year to find the right pup, so dont rush!

 

[Primehns]

i think i could handle them, i don't see why not. I get told that a lot, but i have the experience, and i'm sure i can physically restrain them, being 220lbs and 6'3. I only come here for additional info, but most times people say i don't think they're for you. I'm sure i could handle one i have the time and knowledge, and research to own one of either. I know the Presa Canario is known to be much more dominant, than the Cane corso, and have heard the Cane corso is pretty easy going, other than having the dominant personality and the strong protective instinct. I was considering a Dogo argentino as well, but don't see a posting section for the breed. And not sure if that's the breed for me atm.

 

[ZEBO75]

I say go for it. Don't let people talk you out of what you really want. Both breeds are wonderful and it seems you've done your research. Cane Corso is less dog aggressive which may be something to think about since you currently own a dog. I'm a first time Presa Canario owner myself and my pup is going on six months. Zebo is already trying to dominate my female boxer/APBT mix. He's great and very confident. Presa Canario require plenty of exercise and mental stimulation. Not a breed for lazy people.

 

[Primehns]

yeah thank you, does anyone know any American Cane corso breeders? Or the ones that produce the larger boned dog's, in the 130lb range. ZEBO how's the attitude of the presa so far, already more dominant than the boxer apbt? Where'd you get him?

 

[ZEBO75]

So far he is fun loving with all humans and tries to dominate any dog he plays with. I got him from Casa De Champion Kennel

 

[Primehns]

Beautiful kennel there, may i ask how much he was? Got any pics of him, might wanna watch the dominance thing.

 

[ZEBO75]

The cost was $2000 euros.

I have pics but I'm not so computer savy.

 

[SHERMAN]

yeah thank you, does anyone know any American Cane corso breeders? Or the ones that produce the larger boned dog's, in the 130lb range. ZEBO how's the attitude of the presa so far, already more dominant than the boxer apbt? Where'd you get him?

Hello, I am a stud owner of a blue cane Corso mastiff. His name is SHERMAN (general Sherman for his distinct white
star on his chest) He is a indoor family loved beast. DOB:12/30/13 and he is already ~140lbs and growing being just over a year and half. We are in close contact with his parents and he has champion bloodlines going back 8 generations of lineage documentation. We love him, he is my best
buddy and protector. If you or others are interested in learning more about SHERMAN and see his pictures, I have just started his own Facebook site (site in progress) search under Sherman Mastiff or Blue Cane Corso Mastiff Stud. We are located in riverside county-southern California. And if I can answer any specific questions regarding my experience
with a CC. Let me know. Take Care Lisa-proud owner of
Sherman

 

[DDSK]

It is hard to find a good Cane Corso pup in California you really need to do your legwork.

 

[karennj]

i think i could handle them, i don't see why not. I get told that a lot, but i have the experience, and i'm sure i can physically restrain them, being 220lbs and 6'3. I only come here for additional info, but most times people say i don't think they're for you. I'm sure i could handle one i have the time and knowledge, and research to own one of either. I know the Presa Canario is known to be much more dominant, than the Cane corso, and have heard the Cane corso is pretty easy going, other than having the dominant personality and the strong protective instinct. I was considering a Dogo argentino as well, but don't see a posting section for the breed. And not sure if that's the breed for me atm.[/QUOTE

I don't understand how people can say you cannot handle a specific breed from the extremely limited information you provided. I would say they are not breeds for first time dog owners however if you have done your research, can provide the dog everything it needs and be a consistent leader I don't see why not. And your size/weight has nothing to do with it. It is all mental really. A friend of ours is this little petite thing and she breeds rotti's. She is probably 110lbs but there is no doubt that she runs the show.

 

[EverythingEnglishMastiff]

My neighbor's wife weighs 97lbs literally. They have 4 English Mastiffs 2m 2f. She's never had a problem with them its how you teach them and consistency from when they are young.