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Oscar was accused of trying to bite.

teodora

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I redirect the girls to the crate (door open). Sophia is happy to go there always, she's more of a den animal. Luna is not happy but she's obedient and she'll do it. Jack is on a short leash attached to me to prevent jumping. No way he can stay in place for hours without being vocal all the time.

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season

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I personally would never keep my dog in "place" for a whole three hours. What is the point? The idea of place is to calm down and listen to commands but not for the entire time the company is there. I don't understand why you would want to do that. My dogs are a part of the family and are allowed to interact. Ruger is not stranger friendly so I just tether him to me and he goes where I go without issue.Season, explain to me why you do that when company comes over and he has to stay there the entire time?
I do it with Solo all of the time....place is not just for "calming down".....It's just a place for your dog to be...not isolated...not in the crate but included in what's going on but not trying to be the center of attention like so many dogs tend to think they are. I already posted an example of me and Solo being out of town at a friend's house who didn't like dogs too much. I wasn't about to isolate Solo for the whole weekend. I told my friend to trust me and allow Solo to be in place while in the house. So when he was inside he was in place. Sure, I took him outside, on walks, car rides etc, but in my friend's house I gave him the respect he deserved and Solo did too. Again, Place isn't just a place to calm down. I've posted plenty of vids on the value of place. Typically I don't keep him there for more than 30 min to an hour at a time if and when I do. It's a beautiful thing.As far as when company comes over to my place he is there for a while, but never three hours. I would go nuts having someone over for that long;)
 

Boxergirl

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Yes, for us "place" is short term. Mostly just so Al can calm himself down. If I need it to be longer, then Ella is crated and the boys are gated in my bedroom. Ella has a crate condo with couch cushions in it, so she can move around freely. The boys only have airline crates. The older we get the less we like people, so we don't have much company. We certainly don't have much company that stays for three hours, lol. If they do stay that long then I go hang with the boys. Call me anti-social.
 

CeeCee

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The other part of the equation here is that the visitors are not dog people (or in Scorning's case excited people). Now you have an excited dog coming into contact with unstable (nervous or excited) energy. This right here has my radar up. Excitement can tip in half a heartbeat. To make everyone super successful, I would not allow people and dogs to interact with one else until everyone is settled and calm and then only if everyone wants to.
 

season

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^^^Well said. I tell anyone that comes to my place to not talk, touch or make eye contact with Solo. Ignore him. If they don't, and it's happened, I make them go back outside and practice. It's not hard but most times it the humans that are the idiots. Just saying.


Carpe Diem
 

season

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Not to mention it's also work. Mental work. Impulse control. Now excuse me as it cuddle time on the couch. Freezing outside.


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teodora

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I see no point to bring non dog people in my house really. Matter of fact, 3 mastiffs live here. It's their home. Sure I have relatives and friends (not so much) not sharing my views on dogs - we're free to meet elsewhere. I won't stress out my dogs in my home for some gf of bf of gf who has a different opinion about them. Oh well.

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CeeCee

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^^^Well said. I tell anyone that comes to my place to not talk, touch or make eye contact with Solo. Ignore him. If they don't, and it's happened, I make them go back outside and practice. It's not hard but most times it the humans that are the idiots. Just saying. Carpe Diem
Blah ha ha ha!!!! I'm gonna have to start making the humans practice! Now I wonder if I need a clicker and treat bag filled with Oreo cookies. :)
 

TricAP

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Maggie - you've already gotten a lot of good advice. These big guys can do damage and never even know it. I just wanted to add sometimes dogs are better judges of character than we are....I'm a firm believer if a dog doesn't like a person there is usually more going on. Glad it wasn't more serious. Hugs to you and Oscar!
 

Oscar'sMom

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Oscar definitely knows his place and listens well. I can point and give him a sit command with a snap of my fingers without saying a word and he listens. I use my words when he's excited. I questioned them coming over but honestly we have tried to have a relationship with them and we're just happy they wanted to see us. Their idea to come over. I also fell asleep on Oscars couch while they were here (early morning..long day...wine ). First and last visit ;) I think I need to work on place for longer duration but idk if I'll ever get that long on it. If Oscar were without my touch for more than 15 minutes..I may implode! I love that baby :)
 

Rugers-Kris

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I see no point to bring non dog people in my house really. Matter of fact, 3 mastiffs live here. It's their home. Sure I have relatives and friends (not so much) not sharing my views on dogs - we're free to meet elsewhere. I won't stress out my dogs in my home for some gf of bf of gf who has a different opinion about them. Oh well.

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Amen! This house belongs to my dogs not visitors! My boys are well behaved so it's not like I let them knock people over or anything but I don't put them up either. Unleash Ruger and he stays with me happily and I allow Magnum to roam free. For me teaching them both place was simply the way to teach them to calm down before greeting people.


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season

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Oscar definitely knows his place and listens well. I can point and give him a sit command with a snap of my fingers without saying a word and he listens. I use my words when he's excited. I questioned them coming over but honestly we have tried to have a relationship with them and we're just happy they wanted to see us. Their idea to come over. I also fell asleep on Oscars couch while they were here (early morning..long day...wine ). First and last visit ;) I think I need to work on place for longer duration but idk if I'll ever get that long on it. If Oscar were without my touch for more than 15 minutes..I may implode! I love that baby :)
It might help u and Oscar to work on duration in place. I love having Solo by me but having a dog work on impulse control and duration is a great mental exercise and well as draining physically. Also helps in feeling comfortable and confident in their own skin.


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Rugers-Kris

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Amen! This house belongs to my dogs not visitors! My boys are well behaved so it's not like I let them knock people over or anything but I don't put them up either. Unleash Ruger and he stays with me happily and I allow Magnum to roam free. For me teaching them both place was simply the way to teach them to calm down before greeting people.


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*I leash not unleash


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season

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I remember one time when Solo, as 9 month old, was reaching for a glass of water on the counter. I watched it happen and decided to let nature take its course. He knocked it down. The glass tipped over on his head. Water all over him and the glass hit him in the head. I didn't need the glass or the water to offer him an explanation as to why it did that and what he should do next time. It scared him, it was aversive (I'm assuming) and he hasn't gone for anything on the counter since. He was corrected by the laws of gravity. It worked. He still drinks water. He isn't afraid of glasses and I just sat back and enjoyed the moment.


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Oscar'sMom

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It might help u and Oscar to work on duration in place. I love having Solo by me but having a dog work on impulse control and duration is a great mental exercise and well as draining physically. Also helps in feeling comfortable and confident in their own skin. Carpe Diem
Fair enough. I think it's definitely a worthwhile training tool. I'll get on it! Thanks!
 

cj-sharpy

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not talk, touch or make eye contact with Solo. Ignore him.
X2 I visited a home recently where i was told I'd need a hand full of ham before the dog would allow me in. I declined the ham thinking 1 why reward barking and growling and 2 no way am I buying his trust. So I walked in with the human and completely ignored the dog, like he wasn't even there. two minutes of barking and growling (he clearly wasn't aggressive, just nervous and excited) and he was soon nosing my hand for attention. When he had calmed down and was being pleasant then he got some attention. The dog that "does not like strange men" was soon on his back getting belly rubs.
 

teodora

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Luna does not like "strange men" but she wont go anywhere close. She doesn't bite obviously, she doesnt bark - she's just very wary of them and wont get treats. If I insist she will get the treat and then go back at a "safe distance". I socialized her as I did with the others: Sophia and Jack are social butterflies. It's her nature. If i am afraid one of them may get in trouble, this is Luna: not Jack who's jumping like crazy if left to his own dvices, not Sophia who wants attention. I am worried about Luna because she DOESN'T want attention and this is not the usual nature of a puppy.
 

tmricciuto

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My girls are the same way. Bella doesn't like "strange men" at all and will actually put herself in front of me on walks if she sees someone she is weary of. At home she doesn't bark or anything but will keep her distance and slowly meet them on her terms. (We don't have many people over to the house at all). Sage on the other hand hasn't met any person she doesn't like.