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my fila needs a boyfriend!

Andreac

Member
Hi everyone,

My name is Andrea, my boyfriend and I have a 3 year old Brazilian Fila, her name is Cali. Cali is the center of our lives, we love her so much and spend every moment possible with her. She is such a sweet heart to us and our families. Anyways, we would like to breed her just 1 time, and of course I would have to keep at least one of her puppies :). I have not been able to find anyone around San Diego, CA that has another pure breed fila. Photo0333.jpgCALI.jpg
Cali has been well socialized since she was a puppy, even though she has always been around people and other animals she still has the protective temperament of a fila. She loves to go to dog's beach and run around and find new dog friends.If anyone in my area has a male fila that has not been neutered we would love to meet you! I have a attached a few pics of my pretty girl. Thanks for reading :)
 

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chuckorlando

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Has your Fila had all the health test and would you be making sure the sirehas aswell? Who do you plan to give the other pups to? Fila's are not for 90% of dog lovers and one must be vary carefull who has a Fila
 

NeoBull

Well-Known Member
So basically you're willing to breed her to anything someone claims to be a Fila? Zero thought going into the breeding other than "I love my dog and want one of her puppies"? Because based on your post it appears that all you care about is finding ANY un-neutered Fila to breed her to.

I think it would be in everyone's best, especially your beloved Fila, if you just went back to her breeder (or a more reputable one) and got a puppy from someone putting thought, effort, time, money, health testing into their breedings.
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
When I first got my Fila I wanted to breed her as well. I figured a free pup for me right. But once I new the health risk to Kona I dont think so. Let alone the health risk from not fixing her.

Then you got all the cost of proper testing. I mean if either dog has hip issues in their line or any other potential issue, you could be setting your self up for huge cost.

But the largest issue is the breed. You want to always advance the breed. Thus the health testing. But also temperment test from both. Just from the fact she was raise around people would make me question her temp if she's not had it tested. A bad temp Fila can be dangerous. Then on to looks. Is your Fila the best looking fila? Not in your opinion but according to the standard. Is the sire the best looking? Are the two looks going to complement each other? Meaning if your girls hea is a little small, will the sire bring in a better head. Or bring a better color or jowls.....

Then you got liability from them beig Fila's. Very very dangerous dogs. 90% of people dont understand what exactly a proper fila temp truely is. Let alone just what their in store for with this breed's caracter. Even most first time Fila owners who've done their research. Only two things come from folks who get in to deep. They give the dog up or neglect the dog.

I aint saying dont do it but consider all things first
 

OdeMX

Well-Known Member
Hello Andreac!

If you already decided to get your girl to have puppies and already looking for a stud, probably nothing that people says here will make you change your mind.

But anyway, besides what Chuck and NeoBull already pointed, a Fila is not a dog for everyone, not even if you give it away dirt cheap! Just so you get an idea, guy from a city close to mine has been trying to sell his litter for the last 3 months with no luck, both his dogs have pedigree and the puppies can be registered as show dogs.

He has gone as low as $250 dlls ($3500 Mexican pesos)! Where he should be expecting to sell them for something between $850 - $1428 dlls, so might be quite hard to locate the puppies you are not keeping.

Actually I called the guy and told him to contact me if another month pass and he still has them, I'll only pay for vet bills, which is less than 100 dlls in Mexico.
 

Kelly

Well-Known Member
Hi AndreaC

Your fila looks gorgeous. I really hope you reconsider your plan to breed. Take a read around on this forum, there is a really really good thread on the Fila started by dogman#1, I forget the name of it, but it's about 28 pages long.

The best thing you can do for your girl is to really, honestly examine why you want to breed. you dont owe it to any of us, but you owe it to your girl, and to any pups she has. Would love to know how you ended up with Cali. Was the Brazilian Fila a dog you had researched and decided to get or did you fall into her by accident and then fall in love with the breed?

Also you might have to be prepared for some heated responses from some on this forum. They are the ones are actively rescuing so many pups who were bred by people who hadn't done their homework. Please dont take their comments personally, but hear what they are saying, because their hearts get broken over and over again what with being in the trenches.

Some bitches have an easy time with birthing, but many dont, and many lose not only their puppies lives but their own due to complications. Its a very real risk, and if you spend any time talking to any breeders, you'll find it's more common than you would think. when I get my dream dog, I want to show her, but I dont want to breed her because of this risk, among many other factors, but that's really foremose, is how hard it actually is on them.
 

allsierra123

Well-Known Member
does she have proper temp? From what I have read.and seen she doesnt look to be correct in type and temp. No offense just my opinion.

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Andreac

Member
NO! I was NOT at all saying I would breed my fila to "anything someone claims to be a fila" not sure how you got that out of my post. My post was short and simple because I just wanted to see if anyone in my area even HAS a fila. Most people have never heard of the breed.
I appreciate your concern. If I did decide to breed her i would be sure to thoroughly research the prospective mates bloodlines and health record. I understand that there are many risks that go along with breeding my dog and I am not sure that I would even want to take the chance of something going wrong.
 

angelbears

Well-Known Member
NO! I don't think you understand. YOUR dog does not have the correct temp. to be breeding. A Fila with proper temp would not be running free with people around.
 

Andreac

Member
Hi Kelly,
Thank you for the heads up on that forum, I will be sure to check it out. I know that Fila's can be a dangerous breed if they end up with the wrong owner and I would hate to contribute to the large amount of animals that need homes. When I posted that I was curious if anyone in my area even has a fila, it seems that many people don't even know what they are! Breeding Cali was just a thought my BF and I had, no real plans. I didn't realize that so many people on here were so quick to get mad at me. I do understand the concern though. If I decided to breed her if would NOT be to make money, I would give the puppies to family members that I know can handle the responsibility and I would keep one so that after Cali passes her legacy could live on.
How we ended up with Cali is sort of an interesting story. Before we got her I had never even heard of the breed and did not know anything about them. My boyfriend had a friend that had a brother who breeds pit-bulls and i guess Filas too. He had a litter of Fila puppies that got sick with parvo and I guess he didn't want to pay for them to be treated or maybe it was for the safety of the other dogs, I am not really sure on the exact reasons but he gave the litter of puppies to my bf's friend. The friend was then trying to nurse them back to health, luckily my bf's sister works for a vet and she knew what to do to help the puppies. I think there was 3 or 4 all together. 2 of the puppies made it and the rest sadly did not survive :( After they were better one puppy was adopted out and our friend kept the other. After a few months later we all went on a river trip, our friend brought Cali along on the trip. It was clear that he paid little to no attention to her, as he left her to wander the sand bars and pester all the other people. My boyfriend spent the trip watching Cali and feel in love with sweet floppy face. A few weeks after that our friend had to move and offered Cali to us. She has been with us for about 2.5 years now and I can not imagine our lives without her!
After reading some info on breeding I am Really having more second thoughts on putting my girl through any of that. Thank you for your reply. Do you have a fila as well?

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Hi Angelbears-

I will most likely NOT be breeding my dog, I just wanted to see if there are in other fila's in the area if we did want to actually breed her. I have never breed any of my dogs before and have read very little about it, but if I was to breed my dog I would be sure to do plenty of research before attempting.
Anyways, no i don't understand about the temp and what would be the proper temp for a fila to be breeding? I am just curious now...
Thanks
 

Andreac

Member
Hi Angelbears-

I will most likely NOT be breeding my dog, I just wanted to see if there are in other fila's in the area if we did want to actually breed her. I have never breed any of my dogs before and have read very little about it, but if I was to breed my dog I would be sure to do plenty of research before attempting.
Anyways, no i don't understand about the temp and what would be the proper temp for a fila to be breeding? I am just curious now...
Thanks
 

NeoBull

Well-Known Member
NO! I was NOT at all saying I would breed my file to "anything someone claims to be a fila" not sure how you got that out of my post. My post was short and simple because I just wanted to see if anyone in my area even HAS a fila. Most people have never heard of the breed.
I appreciate your concern. If I did decide to breed her i would be sure to thoroughly research the prospective mates bloodlines and health record. I understand that there are many risks that go along with breeding my dog and I am not sure that I would even want to take the chance of something going wrong.

That's basically still how I'm reading the post, but I'm sorry for being harsh or rude, it was just one of those days where you're not in the best mood and you get sick of seeing the same posts about people wanting to breed with no good reason or plan. I normally try to help educate people wanting to breed in a more polite way.
 

Andreac

Member
I understand where you are coming from. I am new to this forum and didn't think anyone would even reply.
I don't want to be one of those people that add to the many animals that need good loving homes. I realize many people jump into breeding before they have done any research or planing and it is really good that you are helping educate people. Do you have a fila?
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
I'm nt mad at you at all. I dont really even have a problem with folks breeding their own dog. I do have an issue with how many go about it.

First your dogs beautiful. So dont take any of the Fila folks comments to heart. Be it look, stance, or temperment. Many of us have filas that dont fit the standard for this reason or that. But thats exactly why they are adament about not breeding her. You should be breeding to get rid of the faults. So a dog with wrong temp would not be breed as to not pass on that fault.

Fila temp is more or less dis-like on the mild side to hate on the wild side, all strangers. For example, if you walk up to me with Kona, she will do her level best to eat you untill I calm her down. We can hang out with people outside. But she can never be off leesh or with in bitting distance. No desire wha so ever to be petted or friendly. Even ones that are mild temp or ubber trained, have zero desire to be friendly. They may tolerate, but never enjoy nor trust a stranger. When we are hanging out, all it takes is someone to stand up to fast, move to fast, talk to loud, any action she deems as a threat, and she's at a min ready to strike.

The problem with ill temp filas is they can fear bite even their own family. And a fila temp should be the most ut-most loyalty to their family. The kinda dog that will lick you to death and instantly be willing to die for you and your family. Never at no time should one be bitting the family.

Your BF friend should stop breeding. First off part of breeding is the responsibility to take medical care of the pups. Second of all, you dont hand out a litter of filas ever. You call a fila rescue or even put them down. But you never ever give some other dude, who dont have a passion for fila's, all your pups and expect him to handle the situation properly. Like letting a fila roamm wild on a beach. Some one would have been seriously hurt if that was my fila
 

Andreac

Member
Thank you Chuck.
I would say Cali is on the mild side, she dis-likes any stranger. But The weird thing is that she does fine at dogs beach, we had always taken her to the beach since she was a puppy (before we knew anything about the Fila breed) she has always been good with the other dogs but avoids people if they try to approach her. She has let a select few strangers pet her, but we were always talking with the strangers, so I think she felt like they were safe people and we were not in any danger. Another thing I noticed about her is that she is totaly different when on a leash, way more protective and she isn't friendly towards other approaching dogs. Even my neighbors dogs she will try to nip at if she is on a leash, when she is hanging out in the yard and the neighbors dogs come over she is fine with them. Another thing about Cali that I find interesting is that she can not swim, at least I am pretty sure she is not able to. She will go in the water at the beach but only about 6 inches. Do you know if it is common for Filas not to know how to swim?

Yea, I agree with you about the breeder. Its sad how he just dumped the sick puppies on someone else. We don't associate with the breeder or the person we got Cali from.
I am so blessed that I was able to adopt Cali and give her the love and attention she deserves.
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
Oh she can swim. She just dont like water. I've never met a dog that could'nt swim. But I aint never owned one that wanted to swim. Water to my dogs is the black plag. Kona loves to stick her head in the shower and drink. Loves to be sprayed with the sprayed. But absolutly hates getting in water. You get one dog in the shower easy, the other two know what timee it is after that and will do what ever to avoid it.

Alot of dogs are leash agressie I hear.
 

Kelly

Well-Known Member
Andrea, Im so glad to hear you are reconsidering the breeding. I dont own a fila, and I didn't know much about them until that thread dogman#1 started. I hope someone can post a link to that thread here, im not sure how to do that. Get yourself a cup of coffee and an hour or so to spare and have a read. it's really one of the most interesting threads I've ever come across - lots of different opinions but the discussion remained civil. We're all really proud of that thread actually, lol.

I dont own a fila because that is not the right dog for me. I dont need ojeriza (LOVE that word) in a dog where I live, and I like to be able to show my babies off so as fascinated as I am by the breed, I dont see myself ever owning one.
 

NeoBull

Well-Known Member
Andrea, Im so glad to hear you are reconsidering the breeding. I dont own a fila, and I didn't know much about them until that thread dogman#1 started. I hope someone can post a link to that thread here, im not sure how to do that. Get yourself a cup of coffee and an hour or so to spare and have a read. it's really one of the most interesting threads I've ever come across - lots of different opinions but the discussion remained civil. We're all really proud of that thread actually, lol.

I dont own a fila because that is not the right dog for me. I dont need ojeriza (LOVE that word) in a dog where I live, and I like to be able to show my babies off so as fascinated as I am by the breed, I dont see myself ever owning one.

Ditto!
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
Here you go http://www.mastiff-forum.com/showthread.php/3997-Fila-Brasileiro?highlight=fila

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Theres alot of great guardian dogs. Lots of them with simialar temps" on paper ". But few dogs simply dont hate strangers 90% of the time regardless of the up bringing. With the exception of some very well trained ones that are far beyond my skill set. Not to say there are'nt other breeds but there sure aint many.
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
Theres alot of great guardian dogs. Lots of them with simialar temps" on paper ". But few dogs simply dont hate strangers 90% of the time regardless of the up bringing. With the exception of some very well trained ones that are far beyond my skill set. Not to say there are'nt other breeds but there sure aint many.