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Mastiff pup bit my son

northernmastiff

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I have learned from bad experiences (yeah, I should have learned it with the very first experience) that nothing good comes from letting a vet tech/even a vet, take my dog without me back into the inner offices to do anything!! I now know it is my job to protect my dog and make any vet experience they go through as positive as possible, and if they can't accept that I will be there present the entire time with my dog then I will seek a new vet asap. I learned this the hard way, and will never allow it again!

You're right but the way they do blood donation is to have a vet tech take the dog back at 8 in the morning and then you pick him up at about 6pm. It is quite an involved process as the dog has to be put under for the procedure. I think they changed the procedure quite a bit in the recent years but this was about 8 years ago. It was done at the OVC and hips and elbows clearances was done there as well in the same process. Blood donation up here was not done by a vet but by the Ontario Veterinarian's College. We had to drive 2 hours to take him in so the process was quite involved. They didn't give you a choice of whether to go in or not. Petey has a rare blood type in dogs so he was doing a big service as a blood donor.
 

mx5055

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your vet has a tech holding the heads of 2-3 month old pups in order to give them a shot ????? all I can say is it's not normal for dogs I've had ..... I myself have given hundreds of shots and have never had a puppy or adult try to bite me for it ..... I don't think it's a good indication when a vet visit and puppy shot scare an 11 week old pup to the point of biting ..... I've gotten 2-3 month old pups off a plane in Chicago from overseas flights , drove them 8 hours home , opened the crate and had them walk out looking to play like nothing happened ..... maybe there are an abundance of pups out there that scare easily and bite when scared , definitely not a reaction I would want to see , as I do believe it's an indication of the dogs genetic temperament .....personally I would get a handle on the pup and let him know he is a dog , I would never forget that what I knew about him , although my thought is he may not let you forget ..... I've had pups that were very food aggressive at a very young age and it showed through their entire lives ........ I've had pups were aloof at a very young age , it showed throught their entire lives , I've had pups that were timid at a very young age , it showed their entire lives .......I've had pups that were bold , friendly and outgoing , it showed through their entire lives .......
Why is it so difficult for you to accept that all pups/dogs are not exactly the same; without turning that statement into such an over reacted statement regarding aggression, abnormal/danger thing? I think you are making this into something more than what it is. Just my opinion.
 

northernmastiff

Well-Known Member
your vet has a tech holding the heads of 2-3 month old pups in order to give them a shot ????? all I can say is it's not normal for dogs I've had ..... I myself have given hundreds of shots and have never had a puppy or adult try to bite me for it ..... I don't think it's a good indication when a vet visit and puppy shot scare an 11 week old pup to the point of biting ..... I've gotten 2-3 month old pups off a plane in Chicago from overseas flights , drove them 8 hours home , opened the crate and had them walk out looking to play like nothing happened ..... maybe there are an abundance of pups out there that scare easily and bite when scared , definitely not a reaction I would want to see , as I do believe it's an indication of the dogs genetic temperament .....personally I would get a handle on the pup and let him know he is a dog , I would never forget that what I knew about him , although my thought is he may not let you forget ..... I've had pups that were very food aggressive at a very young age and it showed through their entire lives ........ I've had pups were aloof at a very young age , it showed throught their entire lives , I've had pups that were timid at a very young age , it showed their entire lives .......I've had pups that were bold , friendly and outgoing , it showed through their entire lives .......

How come you have had so many pups?
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
Why is it so difficult for you to accept that all pups/dogs are not exactly the same; without turning that statement into such an over reacted statement regarding aggression, abnormal/danger thing? I think you are making this into something more than what it is. Just my opinion.

This is the same guy who can't accept that Fila's are SUPPOSED to guard and attack invaders. But has no problem having guns in the house with children.....
 

Smart_Family

Dog Food Guru
I think it's time that this thread get back to the original topic and help the op with any other tips on acclimating her new pup around kids.
 
Winston has been to the vets this morning for his second shot, he was brilliant he never flinched. It was as though he never knew it had happened, very proud of him, well done Winston. He will be able to start going out 1 week from today x
 

marke

Well-Known Member

Could you elaborate on how you would do the following that you made in a previous statement?

personally I would get a handle on the pup and let him know he is a dog ,

First off a 5 yr old kid has no business picking up a 3 month old puppy , he should be supervised every time he interacts with the dog . pups when they get that size don’t like being picked up , it’s uncomfortable for them ….. you don’t want the dog getting to dislike the kid which can happen easily . I’d want my dog to see that kid as a the best thing around , I’d work on making that dog thinking every time that kid is around life is great ……..let the kid feed the dog out his hand , put his bowl down after he sits ….. don’t ever let the kid mess with the dog when he’s eating , if you want to, you do that ……. I’d want to avoid any situation that makes him snap , the more he does it the easier it’ll get , and the more ingrained the behavior will get …….. he snapped for one of two reasons and pain I doubt was one of them ……. He was either scared or telling the kid and the vet they were and weren’t going to do ……. Either should be unacceptable ……. Someone said keep him off the furniture , well that’d be a start in making him do stuff he doesn’t want to ……….the vet thing would bother me the most , a puppy that age with you around should have some trust , I’d get some folks that were strangers to the dog to handle him a bit ………. Someone said I been lucky my dogs don’t act like that ? I’ve had way too many for it to be luck ……………I wouldn’t definitely go with a gentle approach as my guess is he snapped out of fear …………..my view on this dog may very well be skewed as my pups are here from day 0 ……..izjo.jpgimg_5622.jpglb mouse.jpgdazey.jpgleo.jpg
 

marke

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i miswrote , as i would definitely be gentle with this pup , as i guess he's fearful .
 

marke

Well-Known Member
dog like that takes an experienced dedicated proven dogperson to safely own ......they are an effort and a pain in the ass , not many folks could or should own such a dog ......... the majority of dog owners shouldn't own dogs ........
 

mx5055

Well-Known Member
Winston has been to the vets this morning for his second shot, he was brilliant he never flinched. It was as though he never knew it had happened, very proud of him, well done Winston. He will be able to start going out 1 week from today x

​Great news :)
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
I agree. And I do muzzle. Cause she has tried to bite them. And it was their fault. I explained the breed and how the breed reacts to stranger. I explained they should use a muzzle. I explained they should not touch her and never go for thhead. Well they told me she is a hound mix as they never hear of a fila. They said no need to muzzle a pup. Then they reached for her head. Needless to say they started hearing what I wa saying. ahahaha.

But all jokes aside we dont even go into the vets. We stay in the parking lot till called. Then right into our room. They all understand the breed now and understand it takes a combined effort to work with her. And she is fairly easy to handle as long as they follow my lead. And they never ever reach for her head. I take the head and keep her locked on my eyes so she dont even see them
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
I wouldn’t definitely go with a gentle approach as my guess is he snapped out of fear


you WOULDN'T go with a gentle approach?? With a fearfull dog?? Seriously?? I do not EVER want to meet a dog of yours, if thats your approach to training....
 

angelbears

Well-Known Member
I muzzle kona. She will bite the shit out of the vet, tech, and the lady at the computer.

And the people in the lobby, parking lot.....Funny how the vet insisted at first that the vet tech hold Cane's head for shots ect...By the second visit I was holding the business end.

I have owned many different animals, most are okay with shots. However, some are not. I have also used many vets and I'm not sure that it wasn't more how the animals were handled while getting their shot and not the actual shot.