Mastiff hybrids

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by Patrick, Mar 25, 2020.

  1. Patrick

    Patrick Member

    Hello everyone,
    I am new to the site and I would like your insight on something. I research about all types of Mastiffs. Lately I have been finding websites about hybrid mastiffs... Mixing different Mastiffs for a better temperament, health , and size. I even read about a future breed in the making called Molloso Presa Mayo... I was just wondering about your thoughts on hybrid and new breeds of Mastiffs....
     
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  2. Chase baumgartner

    Chase baumgartner New Member

    I have an American bandogge which is hybrid of the American bulldog and mastiff. Very Intelligent. Very smart and easily trained. Does fabulous with my kids and very protective of everyone in the house.
     
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  3. Patrick

    Patrick Member

    I just had a friend ask to breed my boy Magic with his Pure breed Pressa Canario... i declined ONLY bc my boy is just 14 months old(15 months on May 7). I told him on her next cycle to come on over..
     
  4. Boxergirl

    Boxergirl Well-Known Member

    Patrick, why do you want to breed and why a mixed breed?
     
  5. Patrick

    Patrick Member

    Personally...
    I would love a mix between Magic and a Pressa. I believe the pups would be more muscular, and a Great family protection dog... the thought of that combo actually excites me. I honestly hadn't thought of breeding Magic until my friend started pressing me about it.
     
  6. Boxergirl

    Boxergirl Well-Known Member

    You've probably figured out I have pretty strong opinions. So here's my unsolicited opinion. I worked rescue for many years and have had many dogs from one time litters as fosters. I believe being a breeder is a huge commitment. Even if you only breed once, you're still a breeder. The lives you allow into this world are your responsibility forever. In many ways. I would never, ever advocate for creating a mix unless someone is extremely learned in genetics and for the betterment of the breed. You have absolutely no way to know exactly what you'll get with a mix. Of course that's your choice. I would strongly encourage you to make sure that all health testing is done on both dogs. Not a vet check. Testing. Certified hips, heart, thyroid, eyes, DM - I'd have to look up what tests are done for the two breeds specifically. It's vitally important to make sure that the bitch will complement and balance out any issues your boy may have, and he balance out hers. No dog is perfect. The goal of breeding should be the betterment of the breed. That means temperament and health. You should also check with your breeder. Most dogs from a responsible breeder are sold on a limited registration.

    I know you're very interested in these mixed breeds from other threads you've made. You know I'm very against mixing just because you can. My opinion is just that, an opinion from some person on the internet. But I honestly hope you think long and hard before deciding to do this. There are more than enough mixed breed dogs looking for homes. The mix you're considering making requires a certain kind of owner. A type of owner that I honestly believe to be in short supply. I would also say that at your dog's age (not sure of the age of the female) you still haven't seen what his adult temperament will be. A two or three year old can be a very different dog than the fifteen month old you have now. At the very least, wait until he's old enough to have the testing done (no dog should be bred before the age of 2 at the earliest) and see where you're all at then. Time to research responsible breeding and health testing. I know you love your dog and would want any pups of his to be as healthy and temperamentally sound as possible. Just some things to think about and no offense intended.
     
  7. Just my opinion, but isn't there enough variety out there for anyone who wants a Mastiff breed. Want a gigantic dog that's good with kids and has an easy going temperament? Get an English Mastiff. Is the English Mastiff too big? Get a Bullmastiff. Want a loyal and athletic protection dog? Get a Cane Corso. Want an even bigger protection dog, and you're very good at handling dogs? Get a Presa. Want a huge fearless farm dog that can catch wild hogs? Get a Boerboel. How much more variety do we need? Keep in mind that when you combine different breeds, results are less predictable, so what's the benefit of it really?
     
  8. Patrick

    Patrick Member

    I greatly appreciate your advice and concerns. Magic is only 15 months(will be on Thursday) and is Not old enough. His female is 2.5 yrs old. We still have time to see how Magic tests and if his temperament changes. I am in no rush. I am excited about having a child that would come from Magic.... but of course I want to take all precautions to ensure the pups are physically, psychologically, and emotionally healthy. There is no rush for me .....and with that said... time will tell.
     
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  9. Sheila Braund

    Sheila Braund Well-Known Member

    I'm on the no said for mixing mastiff breeds....hears why, around me there are some backyard breeders trying to breed a mastiff that drool less but keep the size...I've seen EM mixed with a working breed. Cannot remember what it was now....but let me tell you what they got...they have the EM size....but very very hyper. Very very hard to control....even though they still had the awesome mastiff drool....these dogs where dangerous.... most of the dogs where returned to the breeder....and he had to put them down because he couldn't handle them. So be careful of what the mix is. I agree with Boxergirl....the breeds should compliment each other.
    Oh my husband just walked it....the breed was australian shepherd....what a mess if you ask me. So these dogs where 160lbs uncontrollable dogs. No where for them to be worked. So they ended up being put down :mad:
     
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  10. Chase baumgartner

    Chase baumgartner New Member

    I would stud my boy out 57B89F3F-64AA-485D-AF59-784A1508120D.jpeg
     
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  11. glen

    glen Super Moderator Staff Member

    20170620_134608.jpg i have 3 males, all health tested, all amazing to me, i will never stud them out,
     

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  12. Patrick

    Patrick Member

    It is great to see the responses.... Many I don't agree with at all.... i haven't made my mind up on what I will do. Right now zMagic and I are in Protection training so that is our focus. I am a believer in to each his/her own. Anyone can give their opinion... Especially if it is solicited.....lol
    But to judge or condem someone for Not seeing it the way you see it.....that is hilarious to me.... and to assume you love you pet more than I love mine..... smh....

    With all that being said....... i ASKED for people's opinions.... and i thank you for your responses.... but i am not easily swayed. I will do what I want in the end.. right now I am not sure what that is.... once again,
    I really appreciate your viewpoints...
     
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  13. Patrick

    Patrick Member


    Thanks for your response.... and it wasnt unsolicited..... i actually asked for peoples opinions....
     
  14. Boxergirl

    Boxergirl Well-Known Member

    Lol. I figured it was unsolicited because you didn't really ask about breeding your dog, but about mastiff hybrids. Anyway - I still strongly suggest you contact your breeder to make sure you have breeding rights. Possibly they'd want to be your mentor.
     
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