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look who is retiring, THANK GOD!

fila4me

fila4me

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*Filas Lionsden Retirement Sale*
After 26 years, we at Filas Lionsden will be moving on to new ventures and retiring our kennel. As of today, many of our dogs are going to be up for purchase, including several adults.
Please call for more information and details on specific adults, young adults and final upcoming litters
 
fila4me

fila4me

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yep AB!! totally agree, trash! and have done nothing for our beloved breed except make $$$$
 
mountainfila

mountainfila

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fila4me said:
*Filas Lionsden Retirement Sale*
After 26 years, we at Filas Lionsden will be moving on to new ventures and retiring our kennel. As of today, many of our dogs are going to be up for purchase, including several adults.
Please call for more information and details on specific adults, young adults and final upcoming litters
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i call bullshit on the 26 years thats a laugh, maybe 16 years, but he hasnt been around that long. He sold so many puppies to people who in turn became byb and now he has no market for his high priced pups cause these byb are selling theirs for rock bottom prices lol. And if he had a grasp on bloodlines then he would know that he started out with crap and in turn bred more crap, he learned his knowledge from other crap producers, that produce more bad specimens then good, so down the line it goes shit always rolls down hill lol. One more puppy miller bites the dust, time for drinks all around!!!

And the only ones that lose are the faithfull filas, well not really as they will be freed from their meager existance but will no doubt be dumped (hopefully) at a shelter when he cant sell any. I hope he never gets another breed to mill but good chances are he will, gotta make money some how.
 
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Tylerg

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Well I guess my pup is crap then..:( since his grand parents and parents came out of lions den .. I've never dealt with him.. Or seen his kennels.. I bought my pup from a guy here in alaska.. I did see my pups parents and they were very nice looking dogs IMO .and had some pretty apparent temp. I'm no expert though ..that is horrible what he has done to his customers .. And worse too the pups!! Either way I'm happy with my boy.. And after reading what I found on this forum.. I'm glad he is leaving the business
 
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Tylerg

Active Member
That is true ace.. You never know.. I'm happy with his intelligence ..so far:) he is attentive and eager to please and is learning commands like a little Einstein ..:) but will he retain it..?? I've had pups that were so bright at an early age then went through a dumb phase:) for six months or so ..but I've always found if you stick with it you can train any dog .. Some just have it though!! And he strikes me as one who had it
 
mountainfila

mountainfila

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lol Tyler, I would not say he is crap but as you can see by his easty westy front that is a genetic fault, so somewhere down his pedigree you will find dogs with the same front end being bred together which locks in that gene and it will pop up more frequently in the offspring. The heavier he gets the more pronounced it will get, nothing you can do but keep him lean while he grows. Have you talked to the breeder and asked him about this, did you get a health guarantee with him, sometimes not always if a dog is easty westy it will affect his alignment and could cause elbow/shoulder issues in the future , lions den dogs seem to get really heavy and your boy looks like he is going to be a big thick boy.

Enjoy him, spoil him with love and he will return that 10 fold, don't worry about where he came from
 
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Tylerg

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Hey mountainfila:) yes i see your point.. And agree with only breeding the best genetics for the best results.. I believe my boys easty westy front may have been just a phase in his growth.. He is already straightening up..:)he seems less cocked.. We will see.. His father was a large dog.. Probably around 160 his mother was a bit smaller .. I'd say 115 to 120 .. They both seemed to have the correct look..and neither were easty westy.. The breeder has also told me he will stand behind his dogs at any point in their life and would refund and or replace the pup or dog if I was anytime in satisfied..Wich I thought was commendable .. If he would follow through . Via hope to not have to find out.. The vet said he was in perfect health all around.. Good mobility in joints . No murmur .. Healthy lungs.. Clear eyes .. Mouth great.. In regards to bite.. Beautiful coat and healthy skin.. So all in all I'm very happy with my pup:) I will say.. I'm not happy to find out about the goings on at the kennel his lineage came from tho..
 
Tubarao'smom

Tubarao'smom

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Totally agree MF glad to see that he is going out, it is always a good day when those who are motivated by money as opposed to the advancement of the breed tap out
 
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aceoutdoor

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Not so fast. Back in business. Puppies, adults, you name it. And of coarse..... "lifetime support" LOL. It can all be yours for the amazing low price of $2000 US Dollars. Don't delay, act now, get yours before they are gone.
 
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