Is Anyone Here Actually a Trainer/ Advice for Prospect Trainers?

[Hector]

That's awesome!

Here's a question how much or badly was this Goldie shocked? I have one of those electric wireless collars for Bella. She was buzzed a couple times on a lower setting with the beep warning. Now she here's the beep she comes back to me.

No shocking just tones and praise.... Lots of love. I also use the sssshhhhhh sound when she's doing something she shouldn't do..... It's more just to distract her from that behaviour. Once I have her attention away from that I give lots of love

Actually the owner first told us they could not get a leash on the dog without her freaking out so badly that they cannot even walk the dog in the yard because when they were trying to teach her where the boundaries were, she got zapped 2x on leash. When we got there, she attached the leash and was able to walk the dog so we progressed to seeing if she could take her out of the boundary.

It's an e fence collar and I don't have the instructions so I don't know the settings and operations, but it was strong enough to cause PTSD. I was able to bring her out of the boundary, but not without a lot of resistance. I was able to repeat the exit 2 times, but it was a no brainer where she was zapped. When we walked near the mailbox, she'd freak and tried her hardest to go back into the yard and as we were working, the fence collar which was in another person's hand beeped and we went backwards 100x. She freaked out so bad I didn't know if she could recover from it. I gave her some breaks and kept at it. Today the owner updated and said they went to the ball park. Dogs are so resilient.

 

[Boxergirl]

Actually the owner first told us they could not get a leash on the dog without her freaking out so badly that they cannot even walk the dog in the yard because when they were trying to teach her where the boundaries were, she got zapped 2x on leash. When we got there, she attached the leash and was able to walk the dog so we progressed to seeing if she could take her out of the boundary.

It's an e fence collar and I don't have the instructions so I don't know the settings and operations, but it was strong enough to cause PTSD. I was able to bring her out of the boundary, but not without a lot of resistance. I was able to repeat the exit 2 times, but it was a no brainer where she was zapped. When we walked near the mailbox, she'd freak and tried her hardest to go back into the yard and as we were working, the fence collar which was in another person's hand beeped and we went backwards 100x. She freaked out so bad I didn't know if she could recover from it. I gave her some breaks and kept at it. Today the owner updated and said they went to the ball park. Dogs are so resilient.

I think it's great that you were able to help this dog. Nice job!

This is not directed any anyone in particular, just a general statement. The situation described is exactly why I think suggesting use of an ecollar without actually seeing and being able to assess the dog is very risky. Some dogs react very poorly to even a basic stim - and some to a prong collar. The aversiveness of a tool isn't decided by us, it's decided by the individual dog.

 

[Hector]

I think it's great that you were able to help this dog. Nice job!

This is not directed any anyone in particular, just a general statement. The situation described is exactly why I think suggesting use of an ecollar without actually seeing and being able to assess the dog is very risky. Some dogs react very poorly to even a basic stim - and some to a prong collar. The aversiveness of a tool isn't decided by us, it's decided by the individual dog.

Thank you Boxergirl.

 

[Sheila Braund]

Actually the owner first told us they could not get a leash on the dog without her freaking out so badly that they cannot even walk the dog in the yard because when they were trying to teach her where the boundaries were, she got zapped 2x on leash. When we got there, she attached the leash and was able to walk the dog so we progressed to seeing if she could take her out of the boundary.

It's an e fence collar and I don't have the instructions so I don't know the settings and operations, but it was strong enough to cause PTSD. I was able to bring her out of the boundary, but not without a lot of resistance. I was able to repeat the exit 2 times, but it was a no brainer where she was zapped. When we walked near the mailbox, she'd freak and tried her hardest to go back into the yard and as we were working, the fence collar which was in another person's hand beeped and we went backwards 100x. She freaked out so bad I didn't know if she could recover from it. I gave her some breaks and kept at it. Today the owner updated and said they went to the ball park. Dogs are so resilient.

Amazing, good thing they called you. Great job, now that dog can enjoy her life fully

 

[Hector]

Amazing, good thing they called you. Great job, now that dog can enjoy her life fully

Yes, I'm so glad she can have a great life now.

 

[Hector]

Btw another update on my end (sorry lol). My foster gsd went to a great home. Now I have a cattle foster dog that was nearly killed by another dog at PAWS. All I have to say that he's a cattle dog and he's very different from the dogs I have/had so more learning opportunities there. The other thing is that today at a dog nail appointment, I pointed out how these people were using the prong collar completely wrong and educated them on some things and how it is a training collar and not a 24/7 collar. I also did a small demo on how to deal with door dashing and scored myself a training session next week. The dog is very, very soft by the way and is known for submissive urinating. She peed herself before I even started on the nails, but she did not pee herself when I used the prong collar.