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How old is too old?

Totò

Member
My wife and I have been on (opposite sides of) the fence for a while about breeding our Gemma. She turned 4 this February. I've suggested getting another pup from the same breeder. DW doesn't want any puppy, she wants Gemma's puppy. If it is possible we would contact our breeder as we have a contract regarding breeding, but I am not sure if we missed the boat. What are common breeding age limits for females, and if it's possible, what are the common steps one takes to make this happen? I can hear our biological clock ticking loudly and as you know; happy wife, happy life....
 

Nik

Well-Known Member
Since you shouldn't start breeding until they are at least 24-30 months of age I would think that 4 years old is within the acceptable window.

If the breeder doesn't agree to allowing a breeding of Gemma perhaps you could adopt a puppy from the same line as Gemma. This would be easier and cheaper for you and the wife and less stressful on Gemma. Birth is always a messy risky business. If the goal is to get the same temperament/look/line as Gemma you may be able to accomplish that without breeding.

If the goal is to have a litter of your own to choose from and maybe keep multiple puppies then definitely talk with the breeder. One common requirement for breeders would be allowing them first pick of litter or she may require more money (if breeding wasn't part of your initial contract) or choice of the sire.

I have never bred dogs but I have bred cats (Bengals specifically) and the whole process can be a beautiful experience. However, it is also a lot of work. It is also very expensive. And even if you do everything exactly right and take every precaution there is still risk. You can still lose the mom. You can still lose the puppies. It isn't a risk free venture. And that isn't to say don't do it. Just meaning go in with eyes wide open and be aware. And definitely stay in close contact with your breeder if possible. Having a mentor when you go off on such a venture is such a valuable thing.

I know a lot of other members here have experience in this and can probably offer more insite than myself. :)
 

Boxergirl

Well-Known Member
You would also need to make sure to have all the appropriate health testing done for your breed. Not just a vet check, but specific tests. Your breeder should be able to help you with this is they feel that Gemma is a good breeding prospect.

We do have some breeders on the board that can hopefully give you more information.
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
Typically between 2-6 years is breeding age. Health testing should be done first, and you should have your female honestly evaluated by knowledgeable people. Just because your wife loves her does not mean that she is a dog that should be bred.

Also it is a very real possibility that one can lose their female when breeding due to complications. She will never get a replica of your female and then you have to ensure those other puppies go to correct homes and are responsible for life for them.
 

Totò

Member
Thank you all for the replies. I wholeheartedly agree with your comments. First and foremost I am concerned with the fact that we moved and are now 1200 miles from our breeder (Zoe and Dom DeVita of de Italica Terrae). I feel lost without having them nearby for assistance and for honest evaluation. I would want puppies to go to good, qualified homes, but I imagine judging that can be difficult. I know they would have also assisted us with placement if necessary too. Since we have no canine contacts here in Tampa Bay, where can we expect to get a (qualified) objective opinion, which I agree should be our first step?
 

DennasMom

Well-Known Member
Age wise, I think 4 years old is prime motherhood territory.

But... do make sure your wife is prepared to lose Gemma to pregnancy complications before you jump in to breeding her. It is a serious risk.

Your breeder might have contacts in the Tampa area, too. I contact them, first. They might have a good manual for just this sort of circumstance, especially since they included breeding rights in your contract.
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
Zoe should have contacts in the area that can help you out. Or you can head out to some local shows and network that way. She also likely has stipulations when it comes to the breeding so ensure you understand them beforing moving forward.