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How do I stud my Mastiff?

Jackson

Member
Hi there fellow owners! I have a five-year-old male Neapolitan. He us an awesome dog. I would really like to stud but how can I advertise him>
 

7121548

Well-Known Member
Hi there fellow owners! I have a five-year-old male Neapolitan. He us an awesome dog. I would really like to stud but how can I advertise him>

Is there a reason why you'd want to stud out your dog other than because he's an awesome dog? I would hope so, because there are lots of neos that need homes already.
 

7121548

Well-Known Member
Reputable breeders already know where to find their studs or bitches. They will usually be from champion lines or are of show quality. If you are advertising your dog online, you will most likely just attract backyard breeders and people who don't really know what they're doing.
 

7121548

Well-Known Member
BTW, a 5 year old neo is on the old side. The quality of the semen has already begun to deteriorate. Many neos are unable to breed naturally, meaning you would likely have to jack off your dog to collect the semen to be put into the female.
 

Bailey's Mom

Super Moderator
Super Moderator
I understand...I too wanted to allow my girl to have a litter of puppies because she is so awesome, so sweet, so calm and such a great representative of her breed, but...but, these things are not always possible or desirable. So, hear me out because hearing and understanding both sides of an issue is the obtaining of "constructive advice."

Some of us have received our dogs through what are called "Back-Yard-Breeders" which means they were not dogs that were assessed for genetic or temperment issues. So, there is a feeling that just wanting to breed your boy isn't a sufficient reason to allow him to breed. And the Forum doesn't act as a Tinder service for dogs and their owners. It's possible that your dog comes from a great line, one that people want to breed back to to enhance their own lines, and if so, you would have had a huge amount of work done to arrive at the door of offering your dog for stud. You would have had full medicals done on him and a full background done on his sire and his line and his dam and her line. You'd be able to offer guarantees regarding the pups he would sire. I don't know all the particulars, but, the expense of preparing your dog for the possibility of stud service is prohibitive. So, only breeders take the time, spend the money and the outlay of training and housing and medical care that a breeding dog needs.

The pounds and rescues are full of dogs that resulted from good intentioned couplings, people who wanted to let their girls have one litter, and people who just wanted to get their male dogs a date, people who are proud of their dogs and want to see their qualities carried on and not lost. There are no end to the reasons why people want to breed their dogs, including the worst one...making money off them.

Many members have dogs that were bred by Back-Yard-Breeders, and their dogs may be healthy or they may have many crippling and very, very expensive medical conditions and those dogs suffer. It's something to think about. Not knowing the genetics of the dogs involved or their temperments, not knowing their lineage, it makes it a bit of a crap shoot. And it's easier for the "stud", he isn't going to be hampered by the expense and 24 hour care of a litter that can range up to 15 pups...even more. I suspect that since you don't know the usual route, and what is required, that you don't have a champion with great bloodlines that could demand large stud fees.

It's possible that someone from here might make inquiries about your boy, but most won't, nor will they facilitate Back-Yard-Breeders or people who run puppy mills. There are just too many Mastiffs in rescues and dog pounds that are waiting for homes or in some cases being put down because no one wants them.
 

glen

Super Moderator
Staff member
Firstly welcome to the forum,
Please read and try to understand what the good people on this forum are saying, not one of them is trying to tell you what you should or shouldn't do,yes he's your boy, I'd say he's amazing you've obviously looked after him well,loved him trained him and gave him the time that he deserves. ..but what we see so many times is the ones that have been homed in the homes that really didn't know what they were getting, or got ones that have so many health problems that the dogs are in pain and either have to have surgery or lose there lives so young.
I have 3 cc's all male each one I think are amazing, fantastic temperament, healthy, I health test them, but over here there is way too many bybs that sell to anyone that wants a blue pup or a status dog.
So what I would ask yourself if would you want your boys pups going somewhere that could end up with them being neglected, being abused unwanted turning aggressive or being euthanized either from being aggressive or from bad health.
Take your time and read some of the posts on here and see what some of these people have gone through never mind what the poor pups have had to go through, then check out the rescue centres that are so over run.
 

marke

Well-Known Member
let neo folks see him , if he's all that , you won't need to ask , they'll ask you ...... i've had a couple neos , i'd think for me to breed them i'd want a heart check , an echo , not a stethoscope , hip and elbow x-rays , and probably a thyroid check ..... i'd want to know he has never had an allergy(skin issues) , never had cherry eye , and he moved good ......... myself personally i think 5yrs is a minimum to be breeding a male , my opinion has always been if you want to produce old healthy dogs , breed old healthy dogs , not that 5 yrs is an old dog , my neos lived 10 and 12 yrs ......... i've successfully bred to 6-10 yr old male bordeauxs many times , with frozen semen technology there is absolutely no reason for folks to be breeding 12-24 month old dogs , my opinion is it's a big part of the reason why these dogs only live 6-7yrs ..........
 

Jackson

Member
Thank you everyone for the advice. Many people who I talk to who know Marley and know dogs well recommend studding him. I want to do it because I want others to enjoy mastiffs just like him! IMG_0223.JPG
 

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7121548

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Thank you everyone for the advice. Many people who I talk to who know Marley and know dogs well recommend studding him. I want to do it because I want others to enjoy mastiffs just like him! View attachment 59357
Are these people who recommend studding him familiar with neos and the breed standard? And may I ask who or where you purchased your dog from? If you have a reputable breeder, they will give you insight on whether your dog should be bred or not. Sometimes the contract won't even allow you to breed your dog. As great as you think your dog is, there are also many other great neos out there in shelters or rescue right now that need homes. I honestly don't think dogs should be bred unless it's to improve a breed because we have a serious pet overpopulation problem as it is.
 

marke

Well-Known Member
breeding dogs is heartbreaking , placing puppies is a nightmare , it'd amaze you who turns into a bad home ........ most folks have certain expectations when getting a dog like a neo , most will be disappointed , nothing worse than a dog in a home where the owner didn't get what they thought .............. btw , your neo looks more like a corso , there is a cross in his pedigree , it's obvious , is he registered ? I've known the breed since the mid to early 1970's , his head type is something that was not in the breed to be had , at least none I've ever seen that I knew were purebred .......... he may very well be a better dog than most neos and probably is , I would attribute that fact to the fact he is a crossbred dog , they are from my experience better dogs ......
 

7121548

Well-Known Member
breeding dogs is heartbreaking , placing puppies is a nightmare , it'd amaze you who turns into a bad home ........ most folks have certain expectations when getting a dog like a neo , most will be disappointed , nothing worse than a dog in a home where the owner didn't get what they thought .............. btw , your neo looks more like a corso , there is a cross in his pedigree , it's obvious , is he registered ? I've known the breed since the mid to early 1970's , his head type is something that was not in the breed to be had , at least none I've ever seen that I knew were purebred .......... he may very well be a better dog than most neos and probably is , I would attribute that fact to the fact he is a crossbred dog , they are from my experience better dogs ......
I was thinking the same thing about the appearance.
 

Bailey's Mom

Super Moderator
Super Moderator
Well I'm glad someone said it. I didn't see Neo, but the picture is at an odd angle. Perhaps we could see some more pics. I'd like to see the head straight on and from the side without any distortion from above. I thought the same as Marke...probably a cross, with Corso thrown in. Still a handsome boy...love the eyes...just not what I'd expect from a five year old Neopolitan.
 

glen

Super Moderator
Staff member
Your boy looks lovely but iv got to agree he doesn't look anything like a neo and not a c.c either, possibly a c.c cross lab.
 

AKBull

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Staff member
To see a better picture, if you're on a computer, Right click and "view image", it'll be rotated.

I didn't want to be the first either, but I agree on a cross (Lab, for some reason a Weimaraner also came to mind). Good looking boy, and I love his color.

If I were you, I'd just enjoy time with your boy and leave the breeding to the "pro's". Just because people admire your dog, doesn't mean you need to breed him. Enjoy the admiration, and know your boy made someones day a little brighter.
 

7121548

Well-Known Member
To see a better picture, if you're on a computer, Right click and "view image", it'll be rotated.

I didn't want to be the first either, but I agree on a cross (Lab, for some reason a Weimaraner also came to mind). Good looking boy, and I love his color.

If I were you, I'd just enjoy time with your boy and leave the breeding to the "pro's". Just because people admire your dog, doesn't mean you need to breed him. Enjoy the admiration, and know your boy made someones day a little brighter.

Same. I thought it was a lab or weim cross as well. The snout looks long for a neo, and there are hardly any wrinkles. I also have a 5 year old neo, and the head, frame, and bone structure are completely different. And I adopted my neo from a shelter, just to prove the point that people do give up great, purebred neos. I'm sure Marley is wonderful, but I agree that it would be irresponsible to breed him.
 

Nik

Well-Known Member
To see a better picture, if you're on a computer, Right click and "view image", it'll be rotated.

I didn't want to be the first either, but I agree on a cross (Lab, for some reason a Weimaraner also came to mind). Good looking boy, and I love his color.

If I were you, I'd just enjoy time with your boy and leave the breeding to the "pro's". Just because people admire your dog, doesn't mean you need to breed him. Enjoy the admiration, and know your boy made someones day a little brighter.
I agree that it looks more like a weimaraner cross. The eyes and the coloring. Definitely thicker than a Weimaraner though so possibly a cross with a mastiff. I don't see neo looking at him at all. He is lovely though.