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Hell in a Handbasket

davidtq

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Wonder if something like this would help :-
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Its Cheap, screw it with some 2" screws to something really solid and structural and then some thick chain to the collar. It may not be the "nicest" of solutions, but got to be better for the poor pup than cutting himself on glass.
 
Right? I'm worried he'd hurt himself being tethered or I would have tied him to a fence post already. I didn't think it appropriate to even ask yet but I just took him to work before my shift and the boss is SUPER impressed with how well he was behaving. He still has to clear it with the owners, the manager was thrilled, and as long as he isn't causing problems I can take him to work with me. He's not reactive, doesn't bark so we are going to have an easy time of being good as long as Roxy is 5 miles away LOL. Not out of the woods yet, but this will be a big help. I'm leaving for my shift now but time will tell.
 

DennasMom

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WOW. That is a seriously determined mastiff!
Not pretty, but it is amazing what an animal will do under the control of reproductive drive and hormones...
You certainly don't need the extra excitement, though. Sending good vibes that Hank can keep gong to work with you, and Roxy will not be pregnant!
 
Sitting at work, talking on a forum, chilling wit my pup. SO happy things are chill right now. Crazy you have to go to work to get a little peace and quiet lol. I think I get just as worked up as.he does sometimes. Everyone is so impressed how well he is behaving lol. I can't believe how crazy he can be when a hitch is in heat.

The owner of the company came out a bit ago and said what the he'll is that? I said miniature horse lol.
 

Hector

Well-Known Member
Perhaps just consider getting him neutered in the future and soon if you are not going to spay Roxy. He's going to be like this from now on. He needs a lion cage lol.
 

davidtq

Well-Known Member
Right? I'm worried he'd hurt himself being tethered or I would have tied him to a fence post already. I didn't think it appropriate to even ask yet but I just took him to work before my shift and the boss is SUPER impressed with how well he was behaving. He still has to clear it with the owners, the manager was thrilled, and as long as he isn't causing problems I can take him to work with me. He's not reactive, doesn't bark so we are going to have an easy time of being good as long as Roxy is 5 miles away LOL. Not out of the woods yet, but this will be a big help. I'm leaving for my shift now but time will tell.
Taking him to work is definetely a better option. Given a choice though between a tethered dog and a dog going through a glass window if I had no other options, I know which I would take. We are planning on getting a bitch of a different breed before too long, we are thinking of Tardak injections or similar for Falco when she comes into heat, at least until hes old enough to be neutered. Will make a final decision on that after hes 18 months old and we know for certain if he has hip problems or not. If everything turns out alright on that front and he passes other health tests we would love to breed from him.
 

Esand

Well-Known Member
Tie him to a tree if you leave him alone, seriously. He's shown that your doors/windows/etc are no match for him. it seems un likely that he will hurt himself isf tied up.

For future heats I would build him a little playpen/kennel where you can lock him up. Make it out of metal and cement, not what ever your door used to be made out of.
 

NYDDB

Well-Known Member
Holy crap, EEM. It seems like Mercury has gone seriously retrograde in your world... :(

Anyway, focus on the little successes (i.e. being able to bring him to work with you), and deal with the other stuff step by step...

And another vote for a lion cage...

Oh yeah- GOOD VIBES!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
So good news! There is a lab in NY that actually does do genetic testing for cystinuria. Optigen and they have a website. Talked to the vet today and she going to do a blood sample for me and the paperwork. that and confirmed the next step to check for stones. 90 for ultra sound and 150 for x rays. I had a customer come in so I didn't get to ask about how much to neuter. That's gonna happen. I wanted to bed before I found this website and after all this mess I'm pretty much against it. My main motivation was money but I've learned so much here and considering my stock is not going to happen.
 
Like the morning after pill for dogs?
Not a morning after pill but there is a morning after vaccine. I used to have a kennel full of APBT's and on a couple of occasions I had to use the vaccine to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. The vaccine is called Estradiol or ECP. As long as it is administered within 72 hours of the tie, it is about 98% effective. There is a long list of warnings and side effects associated with the use of this drug but then again, all drugs have warnings. I can share that the times I had to use ECP, it was effective and my bitches were no worse for wear as a result. They both went on to whelp healthy litters when the time was right.
 
Thanks for that deputy dog. I'll have to see what it's.called for sure. This vaccine you are talking about is it multiple shots? They said it was 2 shots a day for at least 3 days.
 

7121548

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Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry about your situation, EEM! I hope things get better. If you are considering getting Hank neutered, there are usually low-cost spay/neuter clinics sponsored by local shelters if the vet's price is too expensive, so that might be something to look into.
 

Ginurse

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Goodness, after all of the damage to your home, and possible impregnation of your female, the simple answer is to crate your male. I know it sounds impossible, but many here have crated clever jail-break worthy dogs. I remember a post by Season who made a jail-break proof crate. If it were me, I would spend all of my time trying to concoct a breakthrough proof crate. Crating a dog isn't cruel, it actually brings some comfort to a dog that doesn't have boundaries. You NEED to give your dogs some boundaries, or they will continue to destroy your house!
 

sjdavenport

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Holy crap, I don't know how I missed this!! How awful! I remember how anxious I was to come home every time we'd left our separation anxiety dog home alone for any period of time.....wondering what we were going to find. And your situation is like that times a million, so I can't even imagine the stress and worry. I'm so sorry about Roxy. What a sucky situation. I'm really glad you've been able to take Hank to work with you, that has to be an ENORMOUS help. Let us know if there's anything we can do to help. Definitely sending tons and tons of good vibes and thoughts your way. I'm so sorry you've had such a crappy week with Hank's health and now this. Boys are nothing but trouble, lol!
 

JamieHalverson

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What a cluster _____! It's so frustrating when just as things take an upturn, there's a downturn. I'm glad the job is turning out good though! And that you can take Hank with you. Hoping the best for Roxy, too. The job is going to make all the difference in the world, everything else will follow.
 
Yes talk about amazing stress relief having him at work behaving, people commenting on how good he is, getting pets from everyone. Maybe it is separation anxiety. I never thought about it but his entire life he's spent most his time with me. Even in the pics below you can see him watching me from the windows as I'm walking around to take photos.

So he's having a hard time urinating. He took little water today at work and didn't pee the entire time. When we got home he took some more water and then we went out and it took him 3 minutes or so to pee and it was dribbling out. Not good news. I scheduled him for the earliest appointment for an ultrasound to check for stones, that's wednesday at 11 am so I'm not even going to be able to stay for the whole thing and my wife is going to have to skip sleep (unless I have that day off, don't have a set schedule as yet). It doesn't seem like he's in pain but he's deff straining to pee. He's refusing kibble but will eat a piece of ham or hotdog(dinner), or a couple combos I gave him at work from the vending machine. I didn't watch this morning but he hasn't had a bowel movement since around 11 am.

I'm guessing if he isn't vomiting or having diarrhea and is passing some urine it's not an emergency. I'm hoping we have no emergencies and we are just going to be in manage mode. I signed up for gofundme. I'm really having a hard time deciding what to write and how much to ask for. I know he will have to be on the Hills U/D for the rest of his life. Depending on the size of the stones he may need surgery/surgeries and/or medication. He def needs to be neutered because I don't want to have to worry about him getting Roxy and maybe he won't be so tenacious when it comes to tearing down our cheaply built house. Roxy needs to have a puppy abortion or we will have to potentially risk a pregnancy, she is only going to be 11 months old on the 14th. I'm of the opinion she too prob just needs to be fixed in 7-13 months. Knowing what I know now I can't breed these pups because I have a conscience and I only want to do it right or not at all. Originally I only had the potential money i could make in mind because I really need it. But I couldn't live with myself if all I was doing was breeding problems for others.

I'm afraid I won't be able to effectively communicate my situation as it's complex and though most of you know my story it's been developing piece by piece over several months. Now I feel like I have to squoosh it all down to make it fit some beggars ad. I'm afraid it will seem unimportant and uninspired, lacking emotion. Maybe should I link to the threads here on the forum?

I'm afraid to set a number for a goal. I asked my wife and she said to set it high because we don't know all the costs and what potential surgeries they might need and we don't know if Hank will need medication for the rest of his life or just the diet. I wish I knew the price of everything so I could give a detailed, itemized list and have everything laid out so I could only ask for what we need for our pups and not a penny more. My initial thought was $2500, that should cover testing and neutering and a surgery if need be and help a little with food/medication for a short time. Hers was $5000 that would cover getting both Hank and Roxy fixed and taken care of and help with the expensive food Hank will need for his Cystinuria.

Even just asking outright for any amount feels dirty and dishonest. I was raised not to accept or ask for charity and doing so is weak and shameful. We really need the help and I want to be as honest and straightforward as possible but the most honest answer I can give is "I don't know". We haven't even had running water for months and next month my wife has to quit her 2nd job in order to go to school so she can get prerequisites out of the way and then her government job will pay her and for her to go to school to get her RN. But she can't work 2 jobs AND do that and we spent the money we were saving for water on vet bills already. Sure I recently got a job but it pays no where near what she was making and I'm afraid I won't be able to take as many DogVacay clients that I used to because I can't be home to supervise and walk, and care for them. I'm just scared we won't be able to make our bills much less take care of our pups. We don't even have a car payment or anything,I'm just talking utilities and land/house payment. I just feel so pathetic and run down...afraid. We just need to make it through the hard times and things will get better.
 

Oscar'sMom

Well-Known Member
Just be honest about what is going on and where the money will go. You have the support of the forum and I imagine anyone that would hear your story...we all get by with a little help from our friends. You say your only friends are your neighbors but reading this and your other posts...seems like you have a lot here in this place even though we're all over the world. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other and keep going. One day at a time..one bill at a time. Take care of your wife and your babies and it will turn around. i bet you'd be surprised at how much help you receive thru gofundme