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Fila puppyy??

stephanieb

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Stephanie, did you meet the parents at all? and if you did what where they like??

I should add I still have not heard a reply back regarding the pup.

If they are the same.... the dad was outside with the pups. Definately protective but nothing I would be afraid of though (take that with a grain of salt as I am notoriously unafraid of animals that I should be). The mother they had to keep in the house. The puppies, like I said were dead cute but refused to come near my husband or myself even when I crouched down sideways. When someone picked one of the puppies up and brought it to me it wasn't mean but it definately wanted no part of it and when I put it down returned to the opposite side of the yard.
 

Cody

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I have to agree with Mary here. I see a lot of ads on CL for mastiffs of all kinds. Fortunately the amount of Filas I have seen on there are very few & far between. However, There have been ads on there for them, but they seemed to all be full grown adults.

The amount of Corso litters I have seen on CL are increasing. Almost all seem to have ICCF (is that right??) registration which I have absolutely no idea what that means. It just seems like people on those sites are more than eager to sell their pups to anyone that has the cash. I've been doing some research on CCs & I'll tell you if I actually do go that route instead of another EM, I will not buy from Kijiji or CL.
Many register with th ICCF instead of the AKC as that way tha AKC don't know how many pups they are producing ;)
Prior to AKC acceptance the ICCF was the "official" registry for the CC. Until 2015 I believe one can use ICCF to get AKC papers. After that the stud book is closed and only dogs currently registered with the AKC will be legit.
If you buy another EM you should avoid Kijiji and Craigslist as well.
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
None of Kona's litter would come near us. Thats a Fila. Maybe not all of them, but nothing that would put me off.
If they are the same.... the dad was outside with the pups. Definately protective but nothing I would be afraid of though (take that with a grain of salt as I am notoriously unafraid of animals that I should be). The mother they had to keep in the house. The puppies, like I said were dead cute but refused to come near my husband or myself even when I crouched down sideways. When someone picked one of the puppies up and brought it to me it wasn't mean but it definately wanted no part of it and when I put it down returned to the opposite side of the yard.
 

allsierra123

Well-Known Member
Delilah wouldn't for almost a week after we brought her home. Only one in the litter that just watched wouldn't come near us.

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HayleyMarie

Well-Known Member
I have an issue with people posting adds on kijiji, unfortunately I have an issue with looking on kijiji. Not for a dog mind you. I would never buy a pet from a BYB breeder. I would take a puppy off a persons hands though. I rescued Mitsu from Kijiji and I don't regret it one little bit. Although I nabbed her from a person getting rid of their puppy and not the breeder. The breeder is a piece of work though.

Adds like the Fila puppy add kinnda tear at the heart stings because its pretty fair to say that she is probably with someone right now that had no idea what they are getting into and the person who gets this puppy next is going to be in the same boat. And that to me is scary and sad.
 

joshuagough

Well-Known Member
What's wrong with advertising pup's on CL or any other site? How does that discredit a kennel or breeder? It advertisement the same as any other?
 

Smart_Family

Dog Food Guru
What's wrong with advertising pup's on CL or any other site? How does that discredit a kennel or breeder? It advertisement the same as any other?
Because many people feel that good breeders have homes for their pups before they are conceived or have a network of good owners already screened and don't need to resort to free advertising on Craigslist.
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
I can't think of any breeder, who I know enough about to determine if they are reputable by my standards, who even advertises in the NEWSPAPER that they have pups. Their own website yes, the breed club's website yes, word of mouth via other breed fanciers yes. Newspaper and Craigslist or similer....no. Especially with guardian breeds. Theres to much potential for things to go very badly wrong with these dogs to want people deciding to get these dogs on a whim cause they saw a cute puppy in an advertisement. At least if they've tracked you down via the breed club or the like you know they've done SOME research to start with.
 

mountainfila

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Because many people feel that good breeders have homes for their pups before they are conceived or have a network of good owners already screened and don't need to resort to free advertising on Craigslist.

Oh please, I was wondering when this was gonna pop up lol I need the chuckle. Ok so do these so called "good breeders " have magic powers or something?? Do they transmit pups for sale in there brain and all these potential new owners start calling them hahahaha, they gotta advertise somewhere.

What happened pre-Internet days when no one had websites??? Um I think they call it newspaper lol oh ya and um I think there call dog magazines hmmm which any Jo blow could advertise in , I know read alot of them back in the day. Just sayin lol.
 

ruthcatrin

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Oh please, I was wondering when this was gonna pop up lol I need the chuckle. Ok so do these so called "good breeders " have magic powers or something?? Do they transmit pups for sale in there brain and all these potential new owners start calling them hahahaha, they gotta advertise somewhere.

What happened pre-Internet days when no one had websites??? Um I think they call it newspaper lol oh ya and um I think there call dog magazines hmmm which any Jo blow could advertise in , I know read alot of them back in the day. Just sayin lol.

Please make sure I never buy a puppy from you.
 

mountainfila

Well-Known Member
Also I might add that it boils down to the breeder when buying a pup, it's called screening and weeding, it's up to the breeder to determine we're their pups go no matter were they advertise. You seem to feel if you advertise on these sites your letting your pups go to just anyone, your basically lumping everyone into the same pot , which is not true. I'm sure there are a few byb on there but there are a few of us out there that still have some brains and will not sell to the first gang banger that comes by with some cash, but it's the same with everything for sale cats horses animals in general, it's up to the seller to place the animals in the best possible homes.

Also I noticed most of you say this person didn't know what they were getting into when they bought this Fila pup, ever think something happened and now they just can't keep her, do you ever think that maybe they have the dogs best interest at heart and are trying to get her a new home because of that??? Or should they just keep her and make her have a shitty life for the next 10 years??
 

bw68

Well-Known Member
One of these "legit breeders" would have never sold me Blue, who is in the best home ever, beacuse I lived in an apartment at the time, 26 years old, and had never owned a dog before.
 

raechiemay

Well-Known Member
MF, you present a good point about finding the dog a good home, however, I would think if the person had the dog's best interest in mind, they wouldn't be expecting any reasonable offer or trade for the dog. That to me immediately pointed out irresponsibility on their part & I'm sorry makes me think that they were never the right home for the dog in the first place. I would think if they really wanted the dog to go to a good home they would answer emails & respond to people as it was noted the person never responded to Hayley.

If it were me in that situation & I posted on either of those sites I would not expect someone to offer me the highest bid or something else of monetary value. I would willingly give the dog to a person I saw was a better fit. Or maybe even surrender to a rescue. From what I know about Filas it's a big responsibility to take on. A decision that should be well thought out prior to bringing a pup home. But that's just me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

ETA: I wouldn't even think to post an unwanted dog on either of those sites anyway. If I bought the dog from a breeder, they'd be the first place I would go.
 
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mountainfila

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Please make sure I never buy a puppy from you.[/QUOTE

Well then you would be missing out on a good dog lol if you choose to by pass me cause of were I advertise, what if I had top winning TM's the most beautifull dogs you ever seen but I advertised on kijiji would you pass me up cause of that??
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
Well then you would be missing out on a good dog lol if you choose to by pass me cause of were I advertise, what if I had top winning TM's the most beautifull dogs you ever seen but I advertised on kijiji would you pass me up cause of that??

Since "prize winning" and "most beutifull" were not top of my list when I went looking at TM's, I highly doubt you'd have gotten a glance as anything other than "oh yay, another BYB with 'championship lines' woopdeedoo....".

If you want to rescue a dog, via a Craigslist or Kijiji ad more power to you, but its not the place to be advertising large powerfull and potentially aggressive dogs, especially by the folks who are doing so under false pretenses. ANY such misrepresented advertisement needs to be flagged and deleted in a heartbeat
 

bruno12

Well-Known Member
Oh please, I was wondering when this was gonna pop up lol I need the chuckle. Ok so do these so called "good breeders " have magic powers or something?? Do they transmit pups for sale in there brain and all these potential new owners start calling them hahahaha, they gotta advertise somewhere.

What happened pre-Internet days when no one had websites??? Um I think they call it newspaper lol oh ya and um I think there call dog magazines hmmm which any Jo blow could advertise in , I know read alot of them back in the day. Just sayin lol.

O.O being rudely sarcastic doesn't make your point of argument any more valid.
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
Oh please, I was wondering when this was gonna pop up lol I need the chuckle. Ok so do these so called "good breeders " have magic powers or something?? Do they transmit pups for sale in there brain and all these potential new owners start calling them hahahaha, they gotta advertise somewhere.

What happened pre-Internet days when no one had websites??? Um I think they call it newspaper lol oh ya and um I think there call dog magazines hmmm which any Jo blow could advertise in , I know read alot of them back in the day. Just sayin lol.

MOST breeder have waiting lists for puppies before they start the litter. Does it mean that every pup is sold, sometimes yes and sometime no but the ones that aren't usually end up on their personal website or featured on a the dog clubs website for a fee.

We are no longer in the pre-internet days and like everything else people evolve. People are doing research and learning about what to ask and look for and the internet makes it easier to connect with others to get first hand information. If you chose to advertise in the paper or Kijiji that is your choice but there are a lot of us that won't because it generally means someone is looking for a deal. That is what I use Kijiji for, I want something like a wagon for my kids I look there first because I want a deal, "cheaper is better" is the philosphy that is generally used when looking on one of these sites, but please don't be surprised when people aren't recommending that interested puppy buyers look there.

Also I might add that it boils down to the breeder when buying a pup, it's called screening and weeding, it's up to the breeder to determine we're their pups go no matter were they advertise. You seem to feel if you advertise on these sites your letting your pups go to just anyone, your basically lumping everyone into the same pot , which is not true. I'm sure there are a few byb on there but there are a few of us out there that still have some brains and will not sell to the first gang banger that comes by with some cash, but it's the same with everything for sale cats horses animals in general, it's up to the seller to place the animals in the best possible homes.

Also I noticed most of you say this person didn't know what they were getting into when they bought this Fila pup, ever think something happened and now they just can't keep her, do you ever think that maybe they have the dogs best interest at heart and are trying to get her a new home because of that??? Or should they just keep her and make her have a shitty life for the next 10 years??

Are there a few BYB on there??? Really only a few??? I would estimate closer to 85% (this is just for my breed as I don't know most of the breeders in other breeds but the corso community is small and if you have been in it long enough you know exactly who the breeders are on there) are BYB. They do not want to cut into their profit and advertising there is free so the ads go up at least once a week if not more often. If the breeder this Fila puppy had come from was not a BYB he would have the same clause in his contract that most breeders I know do and that is the puppy comes back to the breeder, no matter the age, no matter the circumstance it comes back to the breeder!

One of these "legit breeders" would have never sold me Blue, who is in the best home ever, beacuse I lived in an apartment at the time, 26 years old, and had never owned a dog before.

You admitted you saw something that day and wanted it so found it in the paper and went to get it. Did it work out for you, lets hope so but as your puppy is still young we will have to see. As for a legit breeder not selling you one, if you showed true interest and learning about the breed and doing right by them then I don't think many breeders would turn you down. If you contact them and say yeah I want a puppy how much and when can I pick him up then yeah one of the legit breeders would probably say not likely! Get some experience under your belt and do some research then we can talk. Sorry but when we are responsible for a guardian breed that has the potential to do serious damage then we tend to be a little protective of where they go.
 

mountainfila

Well-Known Member
Well you know what I was getting at but let me say it again, if you saw a TM that fit all your criteria for what you were looking for wouldn't you call and talk to this person?? Even if it was a newspaper ad? And by the way the father to that pup is from intanaduh from brazil same kennel Juan got his dog from and promotes. The mother I do believe stems from a back yard breeder in Montana and the person breeding the dogs in Calgary has a litter every 6 months. I know because since I started looking for my male last year I have seen them advertise 3 litters, they only have the mother and father so yes this is byb in it for the cash which is sad