grazefull1
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double lol
I spent over an hour typing a long and well thought out response, and I forgot to copy it! It's not worth it to me to type it all back up. Oh well I'll just get the "highlights" of my post that I remember. Cody, do you have something against Amore ? because both times I've mentioned them you have something negative to say about them. Xander is Pennhip certified. The results are on Amore's website! That is why I'd assume he has good hips, not because he jumped on a car. ( I'm still waitnig for the vid of the 140-150lb CC doing the same.) Also when you quote me, please use the whole sentence! You can make anyone sound unintelligent if you take part of their sentence and use it out of context. My last point I'm going to make is Xander has his Schutzhund AD (endurance test). In my last post I listed the rules, but I'm tired of typing! Look up the test and feel free to list all the other CCs that have earned this accomplishment. Sorry for the poorly written post, I've been typing for far too long!
Kevin, that's a cool job! How do you feel about the firearms laws for the common man? I heard they can be pretty strict in California? Not playing any kind of "game", I just tend to believe what I see more than what I read ( especially on the internet!) I'm not trying to argue (even if it seems that way). It's just that I have my opinion of what I think an ideal Cane Corso should be. I was questioned about why I had that opinion so I explained. Why so much scrutiny on my opinion? I've seen breeders post puppies for sale that get less questions asked. I don't know why you'd say I'm "if I'm looking for 150lb males that's not the norm." I'm obviously not looking for 150lb males,I think I made it very clear what I'm looking for, and why I want it. And I don't want a dog to jump on cars or through windows, I just find that vid impressive ( not only the jump on the car also the obvious control and drive for work that the dog posseses) . To me much more impressive than the french ring brevet, which requires little to no agillity,The jumps start at Ring 1 if I'm not mistaken. But this is a free country if someone thinks a 140 lb dog is just as agile as a 105 lb dog, that's their right to do so. Just the same, If I choose to believe otherwise that's my right. I just don't understand all the scrutiny. One more thing if I'm not mistaken doesn't the FCI standard call for males to weigh between 45-50kgs? Anyways I'm done with this thread . Like I said some prefer a larger Cane Corso some prefer a lighter Cane Corso, "different strokes for different floks" that' s all.I have a FFL (Federal Firearm License) Which has involved me before in doing business with a Serbian Special Defense group(like US SWAT) Long story short they had a Corso from America 140 lbs trained in french ring, easly jumping 5 foot fences and climbing 7 foot ones. Of course for what hes trained for they didn't film it(wasn't for show), None the less it exists.If you're playing some sort of Show me video or it doesn't exist game, Then this has taken a ridiculous turn. And if you're looking for 150 lb males you should probably know thats not the norm. Most large males are about 140. Though I've seen some good sized dogs from ALCOR.
Also I believe one of About Times dogs has reached Brevet in french ring, Which Is far more advanced then a Corso jumping through a 4 foot window.
really the short of it is a 140 lb male corso is EXTREMELY athletic, however if someones looking for a dog to jump on cars and through windows they would be a better owner to probably get a dog who's lighter and not as much reason to worry about joints etc... IE Malionis
The trouble is in order to truly be a working kennel you need at least a generation of titled working dogs and very few have that, very few that call themselves such are actually working and titling their dogs.
There's always going to be a split. Show breeders will breed for what trends in the ring while working breeders will breed dogs with the most drive. For a potential buyer its best to find what suits them. Also working breeders DO care for "correct" structure its just not "show correct." I could care less about titles but one should at least TEST their dogs for BOTH TEMP and HEALTH. Anything else is subjective, like people we all have different tastes.
that's how I feel aswell.There's always going to be a split. Show breeders will breed for what trends in the ring while working breeders will breed dogs with the most drive. For a potential buyer its best to find what suits them. Also working breeders DO care for "correct" structure its just not "show correct." I could care less about titles but one should at least TEST their dogs for BOTH TEMP and HEALTH. Anything else is subjective, like people we all have different tastes.
This is it in a nut shell, the Corso breed standard STILL is based on the correct conformation for a working breed.There's always going to be a split. Show breeders will breed for what trends in the ring while working breeders will breed dogs with the most drive. For a potential buyer its best to find what suits them. Also working breeders DO care for "correct" structure its just not "show correct." I could care less about titles but one should at least TEST their dogs for BOTH TEMP and HEALTH. Anything else is subjective, like people we all have different tastes.
"Correct" according to whom? The Show, work, hobby, or byb breeder? The "standard" is just that a "standard" something to go by. If someone needs a standard to tell them what "their" breed of dog is supposed to act/look, they need to get out of the breed IMO.
LOL, so much for unbiased. I wasn't even going to respond, but to me your post is laughable. Couple questions, "they should stop you in your tracks and fill one with emotion." Wouldn't that depend on who's looking at them? When I look at pictures of dogs you've posted when you say the dog is magnifficent and such, I'm not filled with any emotion, when I see these magnifficent show animals trot around a ring that means nothing to me. But have I said anything negative about those dogs? Nah, I just stated my opinion on what I liked. And you've seemed to question it everytime. Why? I just don't understand how me prefering a Cane Corso that is around 110- 130 give or take a few lbs. (like I said before weight is not that important!) Has equaled to that I should get any breed from a Whippet, to a Malinois, and most commonly (from you) a Boxer! Do you think my choice of Corsi resembles a Boxer? Like DD said "correct acording to whom?" But at the end of the day if I'm going to be spending the money on the dog I'm going to look for what is correct for me! a couple more questions, you always talk about the "boexerelli" lines,what lines are those? how far back does the pedigree go back on your Corsi? What breeds do think were in your Corsi's history? Rottweiler? Neo? How are you 100% positive that there were never Boxers far back in one of your dog's lines? And lastly what makes your choice of dog superior to my choice of dog? What breeder did you obtain your dogs from? What were their major accomplishments? Just wondering?This is it in a nut shell, the Corso breed standard STILL is based on the correct conformation for a working breed.
It is based on form to function at this point, and I don't want to see that change for the show ring.
In every litter there will be varying degrees of drive, some high some not so much.
Homing these dogs accordingly is what will benefit the breed.
I for one DO NOT want to see the split that has happened in other breeds ie the GSD, I want the CC to remain a working breed, yet still remain a Corso. These should be a large, balanced athletic dog. The should stop you in your tracks and fill one with emotion. I do not want to see a small boxer type dog as some say it is more agile. That maybe true, but so is a whippet, that doesn't make it correct for a Corso. If people want a boxer then they should get a boxer.
I do not want to see sloppy 150-160 lb dogs, but I also don't want to see 100 lb tiny boned male CC. Funny enough my 2, I have a 93 lb female at 24 inches and a 28" 128lb male, the male is FAR more athletic and agile.