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Ear Cropping-good? Bad?

Cody

Well-Known Member
If you don't want to show or work with him, let his ears like they are.
Your wife is right, cropping lets dogs look more "dangerous" to Non-dog people and sadly a lot of (male) pet owners who crop their dog just do it for petting their own ego so that people cross the road just because they saw the dog, and when you're Latino the Non-Molosser people completely set you in the "Wanna-be-Ganxta-who-fights-his-dog" category just because you walked your dog in "their" street.
And sadly it could also limit their chances of Survival when they get into a dog fight and the whole thing lands in front of a jury, especially if he's big and brindle, "because big cropped brindle dogs are always mean mean child eating pitbulls"(Thanks to today's :cuss: "entertaining media").

Just my $0.02
That is just perpetuating stereotypes. My cropped/docked CC is a working therapy dog at a children's hospital and the kids LOVE playing with her little ear nubs. She helps people get over that perception which is exactly what we need to do to diminish these mastiff/bully breed as bogey man fairy tales.
I think curtailing to the media and hype by not crop/docking is far more dangerous. In essesence w are saying that these breeds are "scary" when altered. I love the look of a well done crop, on any and all breeds that are historically done.
And as stated above, I would way rather do that then alter my dogs. That said, as a responsible pet owner with intact dogs I am hyper aware of my dogs cycles and monitoring so no accidents occur.
 

Tiger12490

Well-Known Member
I love the personal choice we have about crop and dock here in the states I'm not against it at all and the stereo type is bogus... and some people want a dog to look mean so people don't break into there home etc. There is nothing wrong with wanting your dog as an deterrent you say ghetto what ever... I'm from that kind of place and its way more then to look "hard" but so no one messes with you.....I don't personally like the look of cropped ears that much haha but I did want to dock my pups tail for the sake of eyes, plates and cups everywhere but hard to find here in Cali

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Duke

Well-Known Member
Im stuck on the fence here. Yesterday I decided no, then.yes, then no again...now I'm not sure...
 
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neomama

Well-Known Member
I did not have Alliseaa's ears cropped and do wish I had, I show her and it is legal to show with ears, but the look for Neo's is cropped ears.
I will have the boy I keep and the import I am getting cropped. I have to travel 3 hours to a vet that KNOWS how to do neo ears. It will be
$500. a dog.
 

bruno12

Well-Known Member
I would never get a dog's ears cropped for appearance, just my opinion of course...

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BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
From our last litter we had both and we let the owners decide. It is personal choice and I don't fault people for not wanting it done and I have no problem if they do have it done.

I do prefer the look of the cropped and we do show. But even if I never hit a show ring my reason for cropping would be my personal reason and people that attempt to make me feel guilty for it, well their opinions don't matter. Just like the ones that tell me to never buy a purebred always adopt (don't have problems with rescues or shelters again I had a set course for my dogs) or the ones that wonder why I want killer dogs. My personal preference :)
 

heysharon

Active Member
There was some research a while back that said tail docking impacted dog to dog communication, which made sense to me, and one could extrapolate that dogs also use ear position to communicate. I have also experienced the prejudice against a "scary looking" dog with my GSD, whom I lost recently when the county forced me to euthanize him after a bite incident. I believe if he'd been a lab and bitten someone, he'd still be alive. People definitely have a much different reaction to my floppy eared "mastador."

Sharon
Decker, 8 month old lab/cane corso mix
Josie, 7 year old Brittany

In my heart:
Soldier, GSD
Ranger, Golden Retriever
Sassy, Golden Retriever
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
There was some research a while back that said tail docking impacted dog to dog communication, which made sense to me, and one could extrapolate that dogs also use ear position to communicate. I have also experienced the prejudice against a "scary looking" dog with my GSD, whom I lost recently when the county forced me to euthanize him after a bite incident. I believe if he'd been a lab and bitten someone, he'd still be alive. People definitely have a much different reaction to my floppy eared "mastador."

Sharon
Decker, 8 month old lab/cane corso mix
Josie, 7 year old Brittany

In my heart:
Soldier, GSD
Ranger, Golden Retriever
Sassy, Golden Retriever

I am not 100% certain I buy into the dogs can't communicate with dock/cropped parts. I have owned only docked (rotties and corsi) and cropped (corsi) and haven't ever seen them have a problem communicating. I can tell what they are thinking or planning and I am sure that dogs can as well, it isn't hard to notice when a bum wags (which all mine do when we come home) or when they are watching something, stance widens, neck arches, intense look, ears pointed forward weight shifting to be prepared. And those are just the signs you can read... not the mention the energy that changes around them when the situation changes.

I am sorry to hear about your GSD :(
 

Cody

Well-Known Member
Ya, I do not believe the "they can't communicate" argument either.
If that was the case then how is it that EVERY wild animal manages to communicate with erect and many time small ears.
Bears seem to manage just fine ;)
There are no natural animals with floppy ears, that is a man made phenomena.
I do not care one way or another what people chose to do when it comes to crop/dock, just don't try to legislate my choice.
 

Duke

Well-Known Member
Duke is going in tomorrow at 815am...the appointment is set. What is the standard cut? most of the jobs I've seen are almost the whole ear..
 

Cody

Well-Known Member
What you need to do is search pictures and find the crop you like the bet the bring the pictures in for the vet to see. Has the vet done CC's before? It is different from boxers, dobies and Danes.
Get as many pictures of crops that you like that you can to give the vet an idea.
Good luck.
 

Duetsche_Doggen

Well-Known Member
Be prepared for the aftercare as well and research what your getting into..........

Personally I like cropped and docked dogs. While I chose not to have my current dogs cropped I appreciate the CHOICE that allows me to do so. :) For example if and when I get a Neo ears and tail will be done.
 

mastiffmedic

Well-Known Member
I think you answered your own question when you said "but I'm not sure that I want to put Duke through that kinda pain...."
Ear cropping is 100% cosmetic. People don't do it for "health" reasons they do it because they think it "looks" good. Cropping puts them at risk for infection, not to mention risking your dog to possible side effects of anesthesia strictly because you think it looks good. Gimme a break. I've always treated my dogs like one of the family and I've never thought about putting my kids through an obvious painful surgery just because I'm selfish enough to do so. My 3 year old daughter was born with congenital cataracts and had 4 eye surgeries under general anesthesia to allow her to see, it was a painful healing process that gave back her eyesight so she could SEE, healthful reasons differ from selfish ones.
 
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mkj878

Well-Known Member
Duke is going in tomorrow at 815am...the appointment is set. What is the standard cut? most of the jobs I've seen are almost the whole ear..

Well I assume he's gone in and its happened by now, I hope he has gone through it well and I can't wait to see pictures of him :)
 

Tiger12490

Well-Known Member
I think you answered your own question when you said "but I'm not sure that I want to put Duke through that kinda pain...."
Ear cropping is 100% cosmetic. People don't do it for "health" reasons they do it because they think it "looks" good. Cropping puts them at risk for infection, not to mention risking your dog to possible side effects of anesthesia strictly because you think it looks good. Gimme a break. I've always treated my dogs like one of the family and I've never thought about putting my kids through an obvious painful surgery just because I'm selfish enough to do so. My 3 year old daughter was born with congenital cataracts and had 4 eye surgeries under general anesthesia to allow her to see, it was a painful healing process that gave back her eyesight so she could SEE, healthful reasons differ from selfish ones.

There dogs not children you own them do what you want as long as its not abuse.....

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Cody

Well-Known Member
I think you answered your own question when you said "but I'm not sure that I want to put Duke through that kinda pain...."
Ear cropping is 100% cosmetic. People don't do it for "health" reasons they do it because they think it "looks" good. Cropping puts them at risk for infection, not to mention risking your dog to possible side effects of anesthesia strictly because you think it looks good. Gimme a break. I've always treated my dogs like one of the family and I've never thought about putting my kids through an obvious painful surgery just because I'm selfish enough to do so. My 3 year old daughter was born with congenital cataracts and had 4 eye surgeries under general anesthesia to allow her to see, it was a painful healing process that gave back her eyesight so she could SEE, healthful reasons differ from selfish ones.
Actually cropping ears also lessens the chances of ear infections. Most infections are caused by moisture getting into the ear, they thrive in dark damp area's. Cropping the ears can seriously reduce that risk :)
As for the children vs dogs... Well that is a whole other debate. Do you believe in circumcision or piercing ears? have you ever had a dogs ear get ripped while it is playing? Brutal to heal. Our Boxer, who we decided not to crop, ended up with a cancerous tumor on the top side of his ear that had to be removed, had we have cropped him it never would have happened and would have saved us a fortune in vet bills... Just sayin'
Are your dogs intact or spay/neutered? That is a far more invasive surgery.
As for putting the dog under, do you not believe in testing for Dysplacia? That involves putting a dog under general anesthesia to get proper placement.
That argument is full of holes.
 

PresaDogue

Well-Known Member
My personal opinion is to def get them done, you will be happier with the Intelligent more alert"proper look a corso is supposed to have. It is def not too late, they put under for the procedure, no pain, the worst thing i dealt with is when they have to take the stitches out. And that was worse for me than the pup.lol. I had both my Presas done, and glad i spent the money. I only spend 280.00 for mine, 400 seams steep, thats usually for an adult dog, since a lot of places do it by weight. Just make sure you have a good pic of what you expect the crop to look like, i like the shorter crop myself, but just make it clear to the vet. And dont worry about what "other" people think, do it for yourself, n what you want. So what if people "think" you have a mean dog, they are just not educated on the breed and are assuming! I get it all the time, i just laugh. You got a cane corso for a reason, good family dog, and great protector as well. And they dont look mean, they look intelligent!