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Doubull Mastiff Puppies

Mooshi's Mummy

Mooshi's Mummy

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and to stud a 9 month old puppy is just disgusting! you can bet your ass there were no health tests either and how old is the bitch?? notice that was left out? there is no such thing as a 'Doubull' its a made up name. Im sure your dog was amazing and worth all the money in the world to you, and so it should be, but the OP came asking for advise, we gave it to him, end of story.
 
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aspencer9766

New Member
That's because people don't do there home work about dogs before they go and get one. My Samson was the first dog I have ever owned in my life and I will never get any other kind. I read every thing I could on both breeds before we started looking for a puppy. My husband found an add in our local paper with the (mutts) for sale he told me if I didn't get in the car him and my son would pick out one by them selves. I am so great full I went.It was the best decision we have ever made.
 
Mooshi's Mummy

Mooshi's Mummy

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And Im really happy for you and you are right people don't, hence paying stupid amounts of money for a mutt/mixed breed or what ever you want to call it. I know someone who has just paid a stupid amount of money for a Labradoodle...IMO she wants her head reading! Sorry but a Doubull is not a Mastiff breed, its a mastiff mix, may be the best dog ever but its still a mix, same as a Labradoodle and a Shitpoo or whatever they are called. So no we are not rude, we are honest and blunt when its called for and in this case it was called for.
 
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aspencer9766

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That's because people don't do there home work about dogs before they go and get one. My Samson was the first dog I have ever owned in my life and I will never get any other kind. I read every thing I could on both breeds before we started looking for a puppy. My husband found an add in our local paper with the (mutts) for sale he told me if I didn't get in the car him and my son would pick out one by them selves. I am so great full I went.It was the best decision we have ever made. 
 
thelady_v2010

thelady_v2010

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aspencer9766 said:
That's because people don't do there home work about dogs before they go and get one. My Samson was the first dog I have ever owned in my life and I will never get any other kind. I read every thing I could on both breeds before we started looking for a puppy. My husband found an add in our local paper with the (mutts) for sale he told me if I didn't get in the car him and my son would pick out one by them selves. I am so great full I went.It was the best decision we have ever made. 
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That is fine. That isn't the issue that people had with this post. An irresponsible owner allowed 2 intact dogs to come together and then wanted to know how to profit off that.
 
ruthcatrin

ruthcatrin

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I'm glad you enjoyed your mixed breed dog, please feel free to search for a rescue dog of the same mix. Please keep in mind that because these are a mixed breed dog there is no guarantee of temperment or type, and so the NEXT EM x BM cross you find may not be anything like the last one you had.

Please don't call your mixed breed dog cutsie "breed names" and please don't encourage BYBs to profit from people's stupidity in buying these mixed breed dogs. Very very very rarely do any of these dogs have any health testing, alot of them barely get appropriate vet care, they are rarely (if ever) consistant in temperment and type resulting in ALOT of them ending up in shelters and rescues, and just like the OP the "breeder" is just out to make money without serious care for the dogs or the homes the pups will go into.
 
ruthcatrin

ruthcatrin

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thelady_v2010 said:
That is fine. That isn't the issue that people had with this post. An irresponsible owner allowed 2 intact dogs to come together and then wanted to know how to profit off that.
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Exactly. If the OP had posted stating that they had failed at keeping their dogs apart while the bitch was in heat, "so now we're going to have pups we didn't plan for. How do we ensure that they'll be healthy and will go to good homes? And Any advice on keeping it from happening again?" We'd have reacted totally differently.
 
taraann81

taraann81

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Perbaps I am dense, or the polish in me is coming dangerously close to the top, but how does an english bull cross get the name Duobull? I usually can see where the ridiculous names designer breeds get come from...but I cant figure this one out.
 
AKBull

AKBull

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taraann81 said:
Perbaps I am dense, or the polish in me is coming dangerously close to the top, but how does an english bull cross get the name Duobull? I usually can see where the ridiculous names designer breeds get come from...but I cant figure this one out.
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I can only assume it's the combination of 2 mastiff types, i.e. "double" the mastiff.
 
raechiemay

raechiemay

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I see this thread has been resuscitated.....

There's not anything I will add to what has already been posted. To the new person I'm sorry you thought we came off as rude but 2 wrongs will never make a right & like Moo's Mum said, the OP never returned to explain otherwise. So I think we reacted in the necessary ways. I do hope that they read all the replies & have decided to do right by those pups including the sire to the litter, but my gut says I bet they hand a pup over to anyone with cash in hand. It's sad. And we wonder why so many dogs end up in shelters or euthanized each day. If each person would be willing enough to research what they're getting themselves into with that particular breed not bc it looks cute, or it's tiny or they think it would make a good watch dog due to it's size, maybe we wouldn't have as many homeless dogs in the world.

I know I know. Only in a perfect world. Unfortunately there's no such thing.
 
DMikeM

DMikeM

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What the OP and the new poster has run in to is just us being protective of our breeds and dogdom in general. Breeds are just that, a Breed of dog with a set standard that is followed for a reason or a need. Crossing those breed lines just creates unknown mixes that often get sent to the shelters and then death. Other problems like temperament and health including birthing and carrying become and issue. Birthing a large headed BM pup out of an EM may result in complications and even death for bitch and pups. Mutts are mutts no matter what name you put on it.

I looked and yes there are several websites about these mixed mastiffs and some talk of birthing problems and HUGE dogs. I feel bad for these dog and wonder what old age would be for a dog of that size with the breathing issues a BM can have.
 
Lukasdad

Lukasdad

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There are situations when cross breeding isn't such a bad thing? Lukas mum was a rottie mastiff her mother was I believe in same scenario as in rottie and mastiff living together and male obviously catching mother on the break... I can't be to opinionated or I wouldn't have my luka today... When lukas mum was 2 my friend had decision of getting her dressed or letting her have 1 litter another friend had a male a pressa rottie cross so they decided to have 1 mating which was successful so luka became a rottie mastiff pressa cross mutt, mongeral ,pot licker whatever .... Out of the litter of 8 6 of the pups are amongst our friends so we can watch them all growing up . I was gifted luka as I have been a life long friend and they knew that I had had large breed dogs and would give him a good home
I will not be neutering luka untill the 2 mark but I will also not be using him as a studs as he has a few genetic flaws but under certain circumstances so called back yard breeding isn't just about profiting and blatantly trying to destroy a breed or capitalising
Shame on the breeders who blatantly do this but if this union hadnt happened then my luka would never have been here
 
ruthcatrin

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
Lukasdad said:
There are situations when cross breeding isn't such a bad thing? Lukas mum was a rottie mastiff her mother was I believe in same scenario as in rottie and mastiff living together and male obviously catching mother on the break... I can't be to opinionated or I wouldn't have my luka today... When lukas mum was 2 my friend had decision of getting her dressed or letting her have 1 litter another friend had a male a pressa rottie cross so they decided to have 1 mating which was successful so luka became a rottie mastiff pressa cross mutt, mongeral ,pot licker whatever .... Out of the litter of 8 6 of the pups are amongst our friends so we can watch them all growing up . I was gifted luka as I have been a life long friend and they knew that I had had large breed dogs and would give him a good home
I will not be neutering luka untill the 2 mark but I will also not be using him as a studs as he has a few genetic flaws but under certain circumstances so called back yard breeding isn't just about profiting and blatantly trying to destroy a breed or capitalising
Shame on the breeders who blatantly do this but if this union hadnt happened then my luka would never have been here
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Accidents do happen, THATS not the problem (well, it is, but its not the problem we had an issue with in this thread). The issue we all took with this thread is the very blatent attempt to profit from said "accident" (and no, I don't believe this was really an accident, and if it WAS if the OP "makes" money off the litter the next time definetly won't be). Re-read my post here: Doubull Mastiff Puppies - Page 3

You know if the folks doing these breed crossings were doing full and complete health testing on both parents, and had a specific goal in mind with the breed cross and a specific plan of how to handle any pups they can't find appropriate homes for I'd not have a problem with it. Thats essentially with the Bandog is, and I don't have a problem with it.

I have a HUGE problem with the "accidental" breedings that many many BYBs use to excuse their constant stream of pups. There are already a HUGE number of dogs in rescue if you want a mixed breed pup without paying a fortune. Not to mention the ruin that un-ethical breeding has brought to many breeds.

True accidents happen, and they can happen to even the best respectible breeders. Both dogs and bitches have been known to go through crates, walls, doors, and fences to get at the other, I even know of a case where where a pair litterly mated THROUGH a chainlink fence. But the folks for whom its a REAL accident, the folks who're ethical, don't try to profit from those accidents, and they do their damndest to ensure it never happens again, and to make sure that the mom and pups get the best care and that the pups go to the best homes.
 
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