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Dogds Seized, Owner Arrested - Toronto Ontario

Vantage

Well-Known Member
Another case of human stupidity. Owner ignorance and incompetence. It really saddens me to see this, both from the victims point of view and the breeds point of view (not to be confused with the owner or his dogs), but that bad Image on the breed itself. IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE FIVE DOGS, DON'T WALK FF-II-VV-EE DOGS! What, was one or two not enough??

Link to story:Dogs seized, owner arrested in dachshund mauling | Toronto GTA | News | Toront

Actual Text From Story:
TORONTO - Residents of an Etobicoke neighbourhood are breathing easier after four dogs that allegedly mauled and killed a dachshund in a park last week were seized Tuesday — moments after their owner was arrested by Toronto Police.Officers landed on the doorstep of 23 Bradbury Cr. — in the Eglinton Ave.-Renforth Dr. area — around noon to arrest a man officers identified as Kirk Nendos.He had been living at the residence — his parent’s home — with his five cane corso mastiffs.Toronto Police and Toronto Animal Services began hunting for Nendos after four dogs under his care allegedly attacked and killed a senior’s dachshund while off-leash in Centennial Park last Wednesday.The dachshund’s owner told media that after the dogs’ owner gained control of his attacking animals, he simply left the scene.On Tuesday, detectives could be seen kneeling outside a basement window of the Bradbury Cr. bungalow, coaxing Nendos to come out.Nendos, an imposing figure at well over 6-feet, emerged through the home’s back gate and was handcuffed without incident.Det. Lhawang Jongdong said he will be charged with interfering with a public place.“Centennial Park ... is frequented by the public, and, of course, animal lovers and dog walkers,†said Jongdong, who added the alleged actions of Nendos and his dogs “caused serious alarm and it really created a very unsafe environment for the people there.â€Not long after Nendos was arrested, animal services officers removed five dogs — a mother and four younger ones — from the home. All but one writhed and snapped as the officers used snares to guide them into the backs of vans.A statement from Toronto’s municipal licensing office said Nendos will face a number of charges, including offences under Ontario’s dog owners’ liability act.None of the charges have been tested in the courts, which will determine the fate of the dogs.Neighbourhood residents, some of whom peered through curtains as Nendos and his dogs were taken away, said last week that Nendos’ canines had struck fear at the heart of what is otherwise a quiet neighbourhood.“We’re all happy,†said one neighbour on Tuesday who didn’t want his name published.Kurt Haupt, owner of the dead dachshund, called Tuesday’s developments bittersweet.“Whatever they do ... it doesn’t bring my dog back,†he said. “(But) I’m glad they arrested him (and took the dogs) ... he weather is getting warmer and scores of people will be going outside with their dogs.â€
 

DennasMom

Well-Known Member
Wow. Very sad.
The video in the link shows the animal control officers being very calm in taking the scared, reactive dogs into custody. Kudos to those officers for doing a good job and not adding to the dogs' stress.

When I first read the headline, I thought it was 5 dachshunds that DID the mauling....
 

Boxergirl

Well-Known Member
That's a shame. The officers did do a good job with the dogs, from what I saw on the video. The statement in the article that said, "All but one writhed and snapped as the officers used snares to guide them into the backs of vans." - I suspect most dogs would react when on a catch pole so I don't know how fair that comment is. The skeptic in me wonders if the same would have been said if it were a different, less controversial breed being discussed. I do feel sorry for the dogs. Their owner clearly let them down and now they'll be the ones to pay for it.
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
Both owners were at fault, having dogs off-leash in an area that was marked they had to be on-leash. It is a terrible tragedy for the poor old dog but the owners were the problem here. Those "corso" (and at best they are badly bred corso) should never have been off-leash or out of the owners control at any time. Our breed will suffer due to the stupidity of humans.
 

Sinnister

Well-Known Member
Not sure what to think about this. The story doesn't go in to any details about how the dog was mauled. What preceded the mauling? Who knows. All we know is the dachshund died. But they are not humans. They are dogs. They cant be held to the same standard.
 

teodora

Well-Known Member
if 4 of them have been involved in the attack, why did they seize the dog that was not??
 

Vantage

Well-Known Member
To my knowledge what I saw on the tv news station, the Dachshund was on a leash with the elderly owner, but not to other dogs. That following the mauling the owner of the Corsi got "control" of them and left the scene.

@boxer, The animal control did a good job handling the situation (from what I saw in the video). Still an unfortunate situation for the dogs. And I totally agree, most dogs would probably act erratically if put on a catch pole by some "stranger"
@Teodora, good question, I'm not quite sure? Maybe they did not want to leave him in the care of an irresponsible owner? Or possibly other legal reasons?
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
The new report I saw the elderly owner said he had the dog off and that his dog went running up to them, in what he said was a friendly manner.
 

teodora

Well-Known Member
why the owner didn't call his little dog back? As per my knowledge, the dogs should be off leash only if they can be kept under control. Running straight into a pack is not "under control" : this is outrageous behavior in the dogs world. Without owner's approval, this is damn dangerous. My Jack did run into a farm dogs pack and one took him by the throat immediately - if he was a small dog probably he would have a similar fate.
 

Vantage

Well-Known Member
A "friendly manner" is oh so difficult to describe. What constitutes a friendly manner to most owners, their dog has never been aggressive, or a wagging tail?.. Which in actuality could be anything from happiness/playful to shy/fearful/aggressive/insecure. If that was the case (the Dascshund was off leash) then the owner essentially shares the blame. Non the less a sad unfortunate situation.

Imo. I don't really think a dog should be taken "off-leash" not matter how trained, unless in a completely controlled environment, ie. your fenced backyard. It's hard to say whether you can truly keep your dog under control in an uncontrolled environment (i.e.:if someone else dog runs up to you, you now have to control two dogs). And as for the owner not calling his dog back, could be numerous different reasons from "it happened to fast" to "not trained well enough" to recall, to anything else ...Like the news story I saw a couple weeks back where a girl had her dog off leash (said he was "very well trained"), well he took off and jumped into frozen water/river, she jumped in after him, he did not listen to her recall either. Thankfully both owner and dog were okay.

Then theres the video I saw the other night, again very unfortunate and very sad; The dog owner wants to sue the ny police department, yet imo. she is totally at fault... Police knocked on her neighbours door in an apartment complex, she cracked her door (to see what was happening..nosey nosey) and her pitbull poked his nose through, escaped and walked toward an officer "tail-wagging"...was shot dead. That is why you teach you dog not to go in or out of a door/car/etc unless you give it the command to. Then, more importantly, also in question, why she did not have full control of her dog before opening the door (ie. grabbed by his collar, or on a leash, etc.). And finally why she opened the door when she was not involved. Again very sad situation, but uneducated owner.
 

teodora

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I guess the last case was totally up to the officer's judgement: we had police coming on the property at night while they were investigating a case in the neighbourhood and Jack actually threatened them (he was quicker than me to get on the porch, the door was open). All they did was ask me to lock my dog which I obviously did. I'd have been very much pissed off to have him hurt.

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Vantage

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@Teodara Im sure you would have been! Both furious and sad! Our dogs are our kids; both in a relationship-bond point of view, but also in the sense of caring - that you must always have an eye on them, know where they are and what they are doing!@season I know right! I don't think people realize how much work it really is?! And then what is really required to truly raise a well trained obedient dog. But well worth every second of it! I mean there is training where you sit, stand, stay. But a totally different aspect that many dog owners are not even aware of - which is how you live with your dog and the everyday interactions you have with them. When they come and put their head on the owners lap and they instantly start petting them every single time, or when they just open the crate and shove them in, or they start praising and comforting a dog that is whining and barking thinking it will make them stop, all not exactly the correct way of doing things, that unknowledgeable owners probably would not recognize.
 

teodora

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I knew where he were - I was right beside him when 3 strangers with bright torches jumped on our porch at 11 pm at night. He obviously barked aggressively - I'd seriously question what is wrong with him if he didn't. I was alone with a child on 2.5 acres of rural land - middle of nowhere. They should've been happy I didn't come out with a gun like farmers do. It ended up with jack going to his crate and police apologizing for late visit anyway, they were looking for witnesses or stuff. However, my point is that too many people (authorities included) are very quick to pull the trigger when there's no need to. Literally or not.

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Vantage

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@teodora, that was not directed towards you, just unexperienced new dog owners in general. Like the people who get a puppy and think they can let it roam the house while they sit and watch tv type of thing. You handled that situation well, as I'm sure there were many different ways that could have ended.
And i totally agree with you, you would have to question his sanity is he quietly started at three strangers in the middle of the night haha. Thats the nice thing about having a dog no matter the size or breed, they don't bark for no reason, well usually. So if they're barking it's best to go investigate why :p.
 

Vantage

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Like I would never leave my door completely open in a urban area if not fenced. But I did live on a 2 acre rural area so I completely understand where you are coming from.
 

teodora

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The door to the porch was open, the porch is fenced and the gate was closed because right, shit happens.

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Vantage

Well-Known Member
Yeah you never know! Well at least you took all the precautionary steps ahead of time. So they were allowed out but they still had some sort of barrier as to not run right up to the officers.

I found the link if anyone is actually interested in the video. I had to pass by it on three different occasions before actually being able to click it, because I can't really watch an animal being harmed let alone killed. At least they blurred it out.
[video=youtube;77NAhcRdVuk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77NAhcRdVuk[/video]
 

NYDDB

Well-Known Member
Unbelievable. Those officers should face full punishment...

I live in New York City, and have not experienced anything like this, but I also would never open the door to my apartment hallway and let Mateo out when there are police there investigating something-- just common sense, really; they are already "on alert" and don't need an added distraction to fuel the situation.

There was an incident recently that almost made me pee my pants involving the police though: I was out on a walk with Mateo, and had just crossed the street when a man standing in a doorway was motioning me to turn around. There was a police car, with it's siren going., and blocking traffic(!)..one of the cops, motioned for me to approach. "Oh, crap..." I thought.. So, we went up to the car. One of the cops, pulled down his mirrored sunglasses, looked at me and smiled, and said, "That's a beautiful dog you have there- what breed is he?" We ended up talking mastiffs for a few minutes, then they left, allowing traffic to start moving again. I mean...wow- what a way to get information- and put a scare into a girl, LOL.