Do you supplement?

[Bane'sMama]

Hello,

My 15 month old Presa Canario has been on raw since he was 2 months old when we brought him home from the breeder. Essentially, he gets the following supplements:

Fish Oil
Black Walnut
Glyucosomine
Probiotic Powder from Wholisitic Pets

I am interested in hearing what you supplement your dog with as well!

Thanks : )

 

[ruthcatrin]

Um, you're aware that black walnut is toxic right?

 

[Bane'sMama]

Black Walnut hull, yes. The one I have is from a dog store. Might be refined.

 

[DennasMom]

Never heard of black walnut as a supplement... had to look it up... here's one of the first responses on google:

Ask Dr. Shawn - Supplements
Black Walnut
Black walnut is often used by pet owners as a natural deworming agent, especially to treat heartworm disease. While the history of the herb supports its use to treat parasites, there is no consistent proof of its use as a single agent to treat heartworm infection. This herb is usually considered too toxic to use without veterinary supervision. The tannins and alkaloids may lead to vomiting and diarrhea. Most conventional dewormers (and other herbal deworming preparations) are much safer.

For natural parasite control, I occassionally feed food-grade Diatomaceous Earth (DE), but we don't have a lot of issues here in the Seattle suburbs, so I don't do it regularly.

 

[ruthcatrin]

I think I'd rather use traditional heartworm meds, still poison, but at least someone's done some proper research into the doses!

And yah, DE is my prefered intestinal parasite "med" too, though we've not had much of an issue there.

 

[QY10]

The only thing Angus gets in his food is coconut oil. The girls get kelp powder (Angus doesn't like the kelp powder).

 

[Heads.up.Penny]

The only thing Angus gets in his food is coconut oil. The girls get kelp powder (Angus doesn't like the kelp powder).

I give sizer olive oil mixed in his food and once a week a scrambled egg (he won't eat raw) other then that nothing else

 

[Bane'sMama]

I'm worried I might be over-supplementing, if there is such a thing. The only reason I have him on Glucosomine and Vitamin C is because he limped 3x 4 weeks ago and the doc's all suggested surgery. I refused and instead incorporated those two things into his diet for his joint rebuild. He gets his raw egg with shell once a week too. But I can't even consider that a supplement anymore, it's more a meal addition. I am interested in learning more about DE.

 

[QY10]

I give sizer olive oil mixed in his food and once a week a scrambled egg (he won't eat raw) other then that nothing else

Oh, I forgot, I do sometimes give my dogs eggs (probably about once a week like you do). Sometimes they're raw and other times they're cooked. The dogs will eat them either way.

 

[QY10]

I'm worried I might be over-supplementing, if there is such a thing. The only reason I have him on Glucosomine and Vitamin C is because he limped 3x 4 weeks ago and the doc's all suggested surgery. I refused and instead incorporated those two things into his diet for his joint rebuild. He gets his raw egg with shell once a week too. But I can't even consider that a supplement anymore, it's more a meal addition. I am interested in learning more about DE.

My guys have chicken feet as a natural part of their diet, which should give them the glucosamine they need. Any jointed bone will be packed with glucosamine because of the cartilage, but I personally find that chicken feet are just the perfect size to add into their meals.

Beef trachea is also naturally high in glucosamine.

 

[Heads.up.Penny]

My guys have chicken feet as a natural part of their diet, which should give them the glucosamine they need. Any jointed bone will be packed with glucosamine because of the cartilage, but I personally find that chicken feet are just the perfect size to add into their meals.

Beef trachea is also naturally high in glucosamine.

What would be a good one a week treat/bone?

Actually I need 2 suggestions

Something my pup can take into his cage that isn't overly messy


And then a super meaty yummy treat?

And where to buy?

 

[ruthcatrin]

becarefull with the shell, thats extra calcium, so you dont' want to do alot of that. As long as the glucosamine/chondroiton supplement doesn't have extra calcium you can't really over-dose him on that, and vit C is water soluable so you'd have to really try to overdose him on that too.

 

[QY10]

What would be a good one a week treat/bone?

Actually I need 2 suggestions

Something my pup can take into his cage that isn't overly messy


And then a super meaty yummy treat?

And where to buy?

Have you thought about making a bone broth for your pup? You could give it once a week as an extra treat or daily with regular meals. It's totally up to you. I know a number of people on this forum have mentioned that they make bone broth and I do from time to time, too (although probably not as often as I should).

It's nice because you can make a big batch and freeze it in whatever size portions you need. An ice cube tray would probably work really nicely for you and your pup. Just take out a cube of broth whenever you feel like giving it.

Here's a short article on the benefits as well as a description on how to make it.

Reasons Your Dog Will Love Bone Broth | Dogs Naturally Magazine

 

[Heads.up.Penny]

Interesting. I'll look into the broth. Cooking for 24 hours is crazy.

 

[QY10]

I just throw everything into my slow cooker and let it go on low for 24 hours.

As for a meaty treat, a lot of butchers will carry meaty soup bones. The butcher that I go to carries both beef and pork soup bones and they are VERY meaty.

 

[ruthcatrin]

If you have a pressure cooker it takes less time. But again thats a potentially high calcium treat, and one thats harder to calculate how much they're getting out of it, so you probly don't want to feed alot of it, at least for a growing pup. An alternative would be just a regular home done meat based broth (with little to no seasoning) and freezing that into ice cubes.

 

[Bane'sMama]

If you have a pressure cooker it takes less time. But again thats a potentially high calcium treat, and one thats harder to calculate how much they're getting out of it, so you probly don't want to feed alot of it, at least for a growing pup. An alternative would be just a regular home done meat based broth (with little to no seasoning) and freezing that into ice cubes.

When is a puppy no longer considered a puppy. My 15 month is about 109 lb.. and is getting anywhere from 3-3.5 lb of food a day. The reason why the amount changes is because he eats until he's full, so sometimes he'll leave about half a lb of food.

 

[ruthcatrin]

By the 1.5yr mark they're past the majority of their growth. They'll still grow some, but it'll be less drastic and less affected by their diet or environment. I recall reading that the leg bones are usually done between 13-15 months depending on a variety of factors, though I never bothered to actually track down the study.