Collecting the new puppy gear recommendations...let's here everyone's favorites

Discussion in 'Products & Equipment' started by belawyer, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. Hector

    Hector Well-Known Member

    I'm going to say leave nothing in the crate. It's too risky especially if no one is there. I have nothing in crates except their blanket and beds because I know they won't eat them. Recently there was an adult st bernard in my town that swallowed two stuffed animals whole. The animals went in whole and came out whole during surgery.
     
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  2. belawyer

    belawyer Member

    So I noticed Victoria Stillwell is a proponent of Freedom Harness. On her website she sells it but it has a different name. I'm pretty sure it's the exact same product manufacturer but she just branded it to be her own product to sell on her website. It's the exact dual harness setup as the freedom harness.

    On that note, I do like a lot of Victoria STillwell materials but I do not like how she goes absolutely crazy over Cesar Millan. Why can't she just admit Cesar Millan has some good methods in dealing with large dominant dogs and she disagrees with other things. I'm not sure why she has to go into a fit of rage everytime I see her talk about alpha dominant training on youtube or in her books. That kind of turns me off to Victoria STillwell. Nothing about her training methods. I only ever see her with these small cocker spaniel type cute dogs. I haven't ever seen her with a bullmastiff, presa Canario, Cane Corso, or any dog like this. Obviously, you wouldn't put a chock or prong collar on some little whippet and break it's trachea. Can you put a choke or prong collar on a 130lb Male Cane corso, probably since his neck is going to be like 3ft in diameter and made out of pure muscle. Let's just use some common sense people.

     
  3. Boxergirl

    Boxergirl Well-Known Member

    I'm curious which of Cesar Millan's techniques you find appropriate? This is probably not the thread to discuss that, however. Cesar discussions tend to get heated. There are several in the controversial section already. You'd also be surprised how many people use a prong on small dogs and very young puppies. I find many people seem to lack common sense.
     
  4. belawyer

    belawyer Member

    Honestly its been so long since I read his stuff. I sold it all back to halfprice book store years ago. I’m just saying my method of training is what I like to call common sense and it is probably a mix of 75% positive puppy with 25% dominance/alpha.

    Just stuff like being confident and assertive. Not allowing dogs on human furniture (unless its a lap dog), dogs dont eat people food things like in this article:
    http://www.barton.bizland.com/training.htm

    Let’s just forget I even mentioned Cesar Millan. Victoria stillwell looked like she is great with all her cute little collies and labradors. I’ve read two of her books now and watched several youtube videos. I just hadn’t seen a lot of materials with victoria training cane corsos, german shepherds, rottwiellers, or any real working, military or police type dog.

    If you know of some other more well rounded trainers please share (as in not 110% positive puppy but closer to a mix as i mentioned above).

    I’m not talking about some nutso train my dog to be a killer guard dog. I’m just looming for well rounded resources. I personally think cesar’s 2013 book is actually much more well rounded than all his early materials and dog whisperer stuff.

    Whereas after reading two victoria stillwell books she is not well rounded at all and appears to have little to no experience with larger dominant breeds.
     
  5. belawyer

    belawyer Member

    Can you use the freedom harness with a waist leash?
     
  6. Nik

    Nik Well-Known Member

    Honestly I have never used a waist leash but I really don't see why not.
     
  7. Boxergirl

    Boxergirl Well-Known Member

    I consider myself a positive trainer. I subscribe to the LIMA, least intrusive minimally aversive, philosophy. I do believe that would likely fall into your common sense category.
    https://iaabc.org/about/LIMA

    I don't subscribe to the dominance/alpha stuff. When it comes to training and people/dog interactions that has been debunked. I am NOT saying that dogs don't have their own social structure. That's a completely different topic that also gets very heated. I am also not saying that dogs don't need structure, rules, and expectations - they do. Again, that's another discussion.

    There are a lot of books I could suggest, but I'd have to get back to that later if you're interested. Off the top of my head I would suggest Sophia Yin's Perfect Puppy in 7 days. Not that it will give you a perfect puppy, but it does have good foundation exercises that can help prevent problem behaviors from ever developing. Also a newer book called Social, Civil, and Savvy by Laura Vanarendonk Baugh. Both are positive trainers. Anything by Patricia McConnell.

    Yes, you can use a waist leash with the Freedom Harness.
     
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  8. belawyer

    belawyer Member

    When you have a minute let me know what is the one other book or youtuber you'd recommend for me to supplement Victoria STillwell's positive puppy training methods? Knowing that I've already read a bunch of Victoria Stillwell materials and watched several of her youtube vids. I think I'm good on the basic puppy stuff (i.e. 8-15 weeks). Almost all the trainers agree on the basic puppy stuff such as housebreaking and crate training. I've noticed not a whole lot of variation there.
     
  9. belawyer

    belawyer Member

    actually I just did a quick amazon search and The Puppy Primer by Patricia McConnell and Sophia Yin's Perfect Puppy in 7 days both look like solid base books. They look way better than Victoria Stillwell's or Cesar's materials. The latter two individuals I just think became reality TV stars and started their own marketing empire but their actual materials aren't that great.
     
  10. Boxergirl

    Boxergirl Well-Known Member

    Just quickly - look up Silky Leash. There are videos.
     
  11. belawyer

    belawyer Member

    I'm back to comparing the harnesses. Was taking another look at the freedom harnes versus Ruffwear. So if I understand correctly, the Ruffwear harnesses are really designed to either attach at the back or if you want more control attach on the side. Like they are an either or but not both setup. Whereas the freedom harness is designed for one or the other or for ultimate control you attach both front and back. Is that correct?
     

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