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Blood in Urine

EverythingEnglishMastiff

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I noticed Hank marking and his urine was bright red. I freaked out got the key to the car put him in it and started heading to the vet. Then I realised it's freaking Sunday... Every place within 50 miles of me is closed on Sunday. I did see one place and have called a couple times with no answer. I turned the car around and came home. Hank got out of the car, I followed him around because he's in mark everywhere mode now that my lil Roxy is in heat. He lifted his leg and at first I was pretty relieved it didn't seem like there was blood in his urine until near the end of the stream then it started to redden.

Is there anything I can do for my poor baby until I can get him into the vet tomorrow at 7a.m.? He doesn't seem to be acting any different, his appetite hasn't faltered. In fact this morning he was the first one to finish his food which normally doesn't happen. I'm worried sick now.

I have been giving him 75mg of benadryl nightly for almost a month now. It seems to help him with first one dog, now our dog, in heat and his anxious behavior. We've also been battling ear goopiness that has seemed to returned in the last 2 weeks despite the benedryl. Think maybe the benadryl has anything to do with it?

I'm planning on changing his diet to TOTW Salmon seems a lot of folks feed that to their pups with allergy issues. I'm wondering maybe I should get him tested for allergies cause I don't want the ear thing to be a problem. How much does that cost? Is it something vets normally do or is it some specialist I have to go to to what?

Also last time we were leaving the vet I've been taking Hank to, I mentioned how it seems like we always see a dif vet when we go. My wife mentioned that Canyon Crossroads Vet Hospital in Tijeras, NM is a place where new vets filter through as some requirement to becoming a vet or something like that. I'm not 100% sure what exactly she said(I was driving at the time and tend to get sort of tunnel visioned). Does that sound like a real thing? In which case should I be looking for a diff vet that doesn't have a whole bunch of wet behind the ears veterinarians? Now that I'm getting older I'm losing faith in the younger folks lol. I feel like they couldn't possibly have the knowledge and experience required for me to trust them with the lives of my babies. IS that unfounded? My wife says it might be good so that everything they learned is more up to date and fresh in their minds. I dunno. Advice, helps, suggestions Please!!
 
EverythingEnglishMastiff

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I was looking around at some of the forums that came up in a search for "blood in urine". Someone told a very sad story about their dog needing an emergency surgery for corn cob stuck in bowels. Someone offered to pay for them but with tacked on crazy stipulations. She said that pet insurance would have covered it and was a must. I've never even heard of pet insurance until maybe a couple weeks ago someone linked a company they use. Does anyone have experiences with pet insurance? My Hank is 3yo and Roxy is 10 months is Hank to old to start? About how much does it run? Any info would be appreciated.
 
NYDDB

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I have no real knowledge except that a friend's Bernese Mt. Dog had a similar issue (red blood in urine stream)---they took him to the vet and had to do a neuter that day I believe. So, I think in their case it was prostate-related.

Afterwards, he was totally fine. It does suck that these things always present themselves on a Sunday or major holiday, though... :(
 
Boxergirl

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My Leo, due to ongoing health issues, used to have chronic UTIs. He often showed no symptoms except blood in the urine. Hopefully it's just a bad UTI, but I'd get him in to see the vet and take a fresh urine sample as a starting point.
 
EverythingEnglishMastiff

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By take a fresh urine sample. Does that mean I need to do that before going in? Or does that mean that's something they will try to do at the vet?? Any tips on getting a urine sample?
 
sjdavenport

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I would collect a sample at home, preferably mid-stream (so you don't get the first or last part of the urine stream) to reduce bacterial contamination as much as possible. Depending on how your vet does things, if they see bacteria on that sample, they may want to collect urine directly from the bladder with a needle for culture and sensitivity, although that's not done very often with a first time, uncomplicated UTI. Likely would just be treated empirically with an antibiotic.
 
sjdavenport

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EverythingEnglishMastiff said:
I'm planning on changing his diet to TOTW Salmon seems a lot of folks feed that to their pups with allergy issues. I'm wondering maybe I should get him tested for allergies cause I don't want the ear thing to be a problem. How much does that cost? Is it something vets normally do or is it some specialist I have to go to to what? Also last time we were leaving the vet I've been taking Hank to, I mentioned how it seems like we always see a dif vet when we go. My wife mentioned that Canyon Crossroads Vet Hospital in Tijeras, NM is a place where new vets filter through as some requirement to becoming a vet or something like that. I'm not 100% sure what exactly she said(I was driving at the time and tend to get sort of tunnel visioned). Does that sound like a real thing? In which case should I be looking for a diff vet that doesn't have a whole bunch of wet behind the ears veterinarians? Now that I'm getting older I'm losing faith in the younger folks lol. I feel like they couldn't possibly have the knowledge and experience required for me to trust them with the lives of my babies. IS that unfounded? My wife says it might be good so that everything they learned is more up to date and fresh in their minds. I dunno. Advice, helps, suggestions Please!!
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We just did the testing with Rhaegar. We did it with a boarded dermatologist, which cost us about 500 dollars, but that was with the exam, multiple cytologies to rule out bacterial infections, sedation for the intradermal skin testing, the skin testing itself, and his custom formulated hyposensitization injections (three vials). I really think the intradermal skin testing is more accurate, but your regular vet should be able to send off a serum sample for allergy testing too. That should be more inexpensive, and no sedation required. There is a thing called preceptorships that vet students go through at the very end of school prior to graduation. That happens at a clinic of their choosing, but they aren't allowed to be represented as a veterinarian yet, period, no exceptions. So it's much more likely that there's just a high turnover rate of vets at that clinic (maybe they don't treat them very well?).
 
Ms. Leia

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Just follow him around when you let him out and sneak up and catch during the stream. Also / if you keep it refrigerated it will hold for up to 24 hrs.


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EverythingEnglishMastiff

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Thanks for all the help and info so far. I always get all scared when something is wrong with ma babies even if it's minor. I'm lucky I haven't had dogs with many health issues or I'd be a nervous wreck lol. Should I be trying to get a sample now, tonight, in the morning? Does it matter when? Should I store it in the fridge or just on the counter or what?
 
angelbears

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Years ago, I worked at a clinic that brought in a baby vet. The major thing that I saw was that his per patient billing average was about twice that of the older vet. When I spoke to the vet/owner about it, she said that was pretty normal. Young vets usually aren't confident enough to make a diagnose without running a ton of test. As they mature and see patterns over and over again they become more confident and the testing will decrease. Unless they need to pad their/clinics pocketbook.
 
Smokeycat

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I have no experience with blood in urine but thankfully you have gotten help with that already. I do have experience with pet insurance. I have Trupanion and unfortunately I have had to use it once and if Jiggers ear doesn't clear up I'm considering starting a claim for that. From what I understand you can enroll a dog at any age but after a certain point they ask for a medical check so that they can determine pre-existing conditions. So if they have been treated for something already they likely won't be covered for it in the future. Kryten was 11 weeks when he was enrolled. Jiggers was 15 months as he got added when I decided to keep the complementary coverage I got from the vet for Kryten.

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EverythingEnglishMastiff

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So I was able to gather a sample. I wasn't sure how I was going to do it. I thought about using a bucket and then transferring it to a small plastic tupperware but it didn't feel right. I wound up using the little fishnet people use for home aquariums(i use it to pull floating dog food out of the water bucket) and put the little plastic tupperware bowl in it. Followed him around the yard for a minute after keeping him inside a couple hours and got it without issue. What does it cost you Smokeycat if you don't mind my asking? Just so I can get a ballpark figure.
 
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angelbears said:
Years ago, I worked at a clinic that brought in a baby vet. The major thing that I saw was that his per patient billing average was about twice that of the older vet. When I spoke to the vet/owner about it, she said that was pretty normal. Young vets usually aren't confident enough to make a diagnose without running a ton of test. As they mature and see patterns over and over again they become more confident and the testing will decrease. Unless they need to pad their/clinics pocketbook.
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Well that makes a lot of sense. I'd honestly prefer to have tests done so we don't incorrectly diagnose things. That way hopefully we are treating the right thing and not going back for multiple visits with an I guess let's try this next experience.
 
Smokeycat

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Both dogs are about $70. I think it's $25 for Jiggers and $45 for Kryten. It does depend on age, breed and location. I'm in Canada and that usually means higher prices than in the States. You can go to their website and get a quote, I did that when trying to decide if I wanted to get it for the cats as well.

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Hector

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Hope it's nothing serious. Anything dog blood always scares me. I am definitely buying pet insurance when I get my next mastiff unless I have a shit ton of money stashed for their medical expenses.
 
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