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Bite force (flame wars?)

chuckorlando

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If thats a bay dog it needs major training. ahahahahaha [video=youtube;M01YA_Ziv00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M01YA_Ziv00[/video]
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
You dont see the begining of it so theres no way of knowing. But I would figure the two that called right off were the bay dogs. The catch dog was was on it though. ahahahahaah. It's already dead, calm down. ahahahahaha I doubt a steak would change that dogs mind. It's cool to see a dog that takes his job so serious he gets tunnel vision. ahahahaha
 

raechiemay

Well-Known Member
Speaking of hog dogs where do Catahoulas come into play with bite force? My ex & his brother used Catahoulas for hog hunting & I believe they still do
 

Duetsche_Doggen

Well-Known Member
You dont see the begining of it so theres no way of knowing. But I would figure the two that called right off were the bay dogs. The catch dog was was on it though. ahahahahaah. It's already dead, calm down. ahahahahaha I doubt a steak would change that dogs mind. It's cool to see a dog that takes his job so serious he gets tunnel vision. ahahahaha

I agree!
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
Yea those are cur dogs. Thats one of the first breeds established in north America and IS the original hog dog. It's nick named a catahoula hog dog. I dont think they have huge bites though. There not big dogs. But neither are the pitts. Like was mentioned bite dont really come into play. The bay dogs hold it, the catch dog hits it in the face or throat and they just pin it together. The hog cant do much after they got it. But it can tear em up in the process

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I think your right. Kona is on any thing she see's. She's never been against anything big. But she dont ask questions. She caught one stray cat in the back yard and that didn't end well and she trees a stray at least 4 times a week. The squirrels just drive her made AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah chuck that's how we always did it. Although I have a hunch filas could bay and catch.

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chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
I think your right. Kona is on any thing she see's. She's never been against anything big. But she dont ask questions. She caught one stray cat in the back yard and that didn't end well and she trees a stray at least 4 times a week. The squirrels just drive her made AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah chuck that's how we always did it. Although I have a hunch filas could bay and catch.

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YouKnowMeNot

Active Member
umm, really? You quoted me with the answer to your question right in there..." using instruments made to measure pressure". I dont know how else I can say it. Oh, they also had cameras recording the entire thing... so video footage as well as the instrument used to measure pressure (when the dog bites down)... you cant ask for better proof than that.

Yeah, really. I wanted to make sure if you're talking about that funny video where they picked 5 dogs out of 5 breeds. The one where they measured some dogs while holding them still and some dogs while jumping - this one, right? And lets not forget the part where a wolf did a defensive bite and now everyone thinks their dogs have stronger bites than wolves LOL. For the record a wolf can reach up to 1500 lbs bite force and I'm not even talking about an alpha male here. And you think this is an accurate representation of a dog's bite force? Just because it has the NG stamp on it doesn't automatically mean its "proof". How do you know the dogs were giving their full? And I still don't understand why you blame kangal owners for not measuring their dogs. Blame NG. Why didn't they bring a Kangal there? They are the ones supposed to seek the unbiased truth, aren't they?

If you want real, scientific proof, bring me 20 dogs from each breed. All dogs must be at the same age and the same sex. All dogs must bite from the same angle and the same position. All dogs must be trained from puppies and have maximum developped jaw and bite. All dogs must have similiarly aggressive parents and heritage. All dogs must be KILLERS. Only when you have a killer dog you know it bites to kill. Not to hold you down. Not to scare you. Not because it will receive praise and treats from its owner. To kill you. You can't measure an average dog, because you can't be sure if it's playing around or biting for real. With a killer dog you can be much more certain that it will bite you as hard as it can, especially if it perceives you as a deadly threat. I'll buy the "expensive piece of machinery". You bring me the dogs. Hell, I'll buy myself a plane ticket and come to you directly if you manage to pull this off lol.


And even then, this experiment will mean absolutely nothing, because there are different types of dog bites. Some do more damages than others, some have more bite surface, some can hold the bite better than others. In the end it will be:
1) A waste of time.
2) A waste of money.
3) A waste of animals.


Which is why nobody bothers and nobody cares about bite force. NG did something that would intrigue the viewers for half an hour. They didn't claim it was universal truth. And if a turtle can have 1000lbs bite and a wolf 1500lbs, why not a dog? They used dogs in arenas against lions. Think about that for a second. One last thing.

with the 1000lbs of force 40lb pittie....yea, I dont believe it either.

Except the Kangal can reach 200lbs and 95 cm and there's no ground to compare it with a pittie. Go to youtube and type 90cm Kangal or 94cm. Which is why apbt owners say their dogs are best "pound for pound". At least the ones that know what they are talking about.
 

DMikeM

Well-Known Member
BTW Kangal is the smallest of the Anatolians. Caucasian, or Central Asian Shepherd dogs are bigger. This is probably the oldest known breed of dog with closest ties to Wolves. @YouKnowMeKnot your replies seem hostile and condescending. Why has such a thread provoked so much emotion from you is no one cares about bite force, and why bother joining the conversation if all this is a waste and no one cares? Do you think you could attempt to be more civil here?
I knew this post could cause flame wars but we are mostly adults that have the ability to keep ourselves in check.