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At what age did your Presa Canario show dog aggression?

ZEBO75

Well-Known Member
I have a 5 month old male Presa and was just wondering at what age dog aggression usually shows up in Presa Canario Temperament.

My pup currently gets along with all dogs and all humans and I know this will probably change in the near future and just wanted here from people who have experience with the breed.
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
I believe mastiffs in general will not show dog aggression per say. If they are not socialized with other dogs and humans, then they could become intolerant of dogs and humans. Some mastiffs do not like other dogs at all especially male dogs.

Your pup will enter the fear stage in about 2-3 months, he will be afraid of most things. For example, dogs, cats, birds, humans, paper bags, boxes, etc. Do not reward the fear behavior.

I hope that you have trained him to look/focus and leave it and the other basic commands.

If this is your first mastiff, I hope the puppy info will help you out. We have a few PC owners and I'm sure they will reply to your post.

First, you want to crate train the pup. Make sure you have a blanket, stuffed animal (about their size) and white noise (ticking clock or ipod with soft music) so the pup can sleep. The pup is used to cuddling with siblings.

Second: you want to keep the pup in a room with a family member. Mastiffs need to be near their family members.

Third: you want to start the pup’s food regimen. Are you feeding them what the breeder fed them? If yes, ok. If not, you need to do a slow transition to the new food. Mastiffs are allergic to chicken and grain in kibble. Slow transition is to feed 1/4 of new food with 3/4's of old food for 3-4 days. Transition to 1/2 new and 1/2 old food for 3-4 days. Transition to 3/4 new and 1/4 old for 3-4 days. Transition to 100% new food. If at anytime the pup has diarrhea, return to former transition amounts until diarrhea stops.

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Fourth: You want to keep the leash on the pup for a few hours each day while in the house so they gets used to it.

Fifth: Keep the pup away from dog areas unless they have had their 2nd set of shots leaving the pup prone to getting parvo or other illnesses. Keep the pup in your yard and place newspapers down where they will walk on the ground. This is very important!

Sixth: Start basic commands. Train for about 5 minutes per day and slowy increase the training time. Teach one command at a time. Once they master one command, move onto another command.


Mastiffs can be extremely stubborn and if you get frustrated with them, they will shut down. Mastiffs do not do well with yelling or hitting. Hitting can result in some unwanted mastiff behavior meaning fear aggression, which equals biting.

Number one command is sit. Teach the pup to sit, by placing a treat in front of his head and move it to the back causing him to sit to get the treat. When the pup sits, tell them good sit and give them the treat.

Second command should be "focus/look" This will help you tremendously when the pup is over 100 lbs. Put the pup into sit. With a treat in your hand (let the pup smell it), put the treat up to your eyes and tell the pup to look or focus. They may only do this for about 1-2 seconds. As soon as they look at your eyes, tell them good look or good focus and give the treat. Some mastiffs (DDBs generally) do not like to look anyone in the eyes for long because that means a challenge to them. Titan is up to 35 seconds of looking at me.

Other commands to teach is stay, come, leave it and drop it.

When you are training and when the pup does not do as you ask, then tell him no no no and redirect back to command in a normal voice. The only time a stern and somewhat loud NO should be used is when they are doing something that can cause harm to themselves or others.

For example, when I'm doing the look at me training with Titan. He will look at me and then his eyes will move to the left or right. I say, "no no no, look at me" and he returns to the look to my eyes.

When they do what you want them to do, get all giddy and excited and say, "Yes, good look!" I clap, giggle, and sometimes do a little dance. My dog looks at me like, really woman?

Puppies should not do any heavy exercise or walking for the first 1-2 years. Stairs should be maneuvered while on leash (even in the house) especially going down the stairs. Stairs should have carpet or rubber matting to give the pup traction. Most mastiffs (DDBs especially) can be very lazy but they still need to exercise. Puppies should not be walked for more than 15-20 minutes for the first 6-8 months and do your best to avoid heavy running or jumping for the first 1-2 years. Excessive jumping, running and long walks (1-2 hours) can cause hip, elbow, knee and joint injuries.

Remember, mastiffs do not tolerate heat. In the heat, reduce walk/exercise times. Have clean water available at all times. I freeze towels to either place on Titan or put on the floor for him to lie on in the summer to cool him off. Buy a kiddies’ pool for the pup to play in to keep cool.

Mastiffs should not be neutered/spayed until 18 months to 2 years. NO MATTER what the vet says. Early neutering can cause growth problems.

Enjoy your baby! Have lots of patience! The pup will reward you with love and loyalty!
 

ZEBO75

Well-Known Member
Thanks for your informative post but training and feeding I have this down to a science. I’ve trained dogs for almost 20 years mainly the APBT and GSD. Zebo is 5 months old and has all of his shots. He is well socialized but have heard from many that dog aggression should be expected and was just wondering when it usually shows up in a Presa Canario’s temperament. Presa Canario has more drive than some of the other Mastiff breeds such as English Mastiff, Bull Mastiff, and French Mastiff. I will be enlisting him in protection work in a few months. So far he doesn’t have a fear of anything and is very sure of himself.
This is my very first mastiff breed but have experience with other dominant breeds.

I’m a big fan of working dogs with high drive and enjoy actually working dogs and giving them a job. I have no intentions of having my dog fixed because it takes away drive, and slows down a dog’s metabolism. Don’t worry the dog will not be contained so that there will be no surprised litters. I not what you would call the average dog owner but respect dog fanciers on all levels.
 

Bantu

Banned
Sry Zebo for the information overload. Sounds like you know your dogs and you won't be dressing them up for halloween.
 

Steve Allen

Member
My thoughts: I believe there is no one answer as within a breed there are wide variances. I have noticed the initial tendency toward aggression as a puppy seems to be determined by the parents genetics, i.e., the sort of bloodlines that are coming together in a particular litter. For example, the dam and sire that produced my Presa, Dante, were very different temperaments. The sire was show lines, very social, friendly, open to contact with strangers. The dam was schutzhund lines, carefully suspicious and quick to respond to a perceived threat. The puppies leaned one way or another in temperament even from a very few weeks old! It was very noticeable, lol! The puppy I first picked was too aggressive so I picked one less so. Then, as your puppy matures, that initial genetic predisposition is heavily influenced by your style of training and the amount of socialization you do. Because a Presa, generally, is naturally aggressive the more socialization you do at a young age and then continuing as your puppy matures the better. In my dogs case, which is simply his story, he started showing uninvited aggression at 6 months, both to other dogs and strangers, and I had to work extra hard with him to get him to understand such behavior was unacceptable. As an aside I had him neutered at 12 months. Don't know to what extent this affected his aggression. There was no dramatic behavior shift at the time. I have had to be careful with him up till his current age of 3 years but in the last 6 months he has really responded. Now, if I introduce him to strangers he will go from alert suspicion (his normal state) to tail wagging and allow and enjoy petting. I attribute this shift to constant socializing throughout his life but I also think simply time is the key as he has mentally matured. As he has aged he has become more confident. The more confident he has become the more predictable his behavior and how he responds. Of particular note, if you are not clearly dominant over your Presa it will not respond to your corrections and instruction about acceptable and unacceptable behavior. It is critical that you are in charge of this dog and that it willingly accepts your leadership. If it does not you have an accident waiting to happen unless you simply luck out and have a naturally friendly Presa which can happen but is not a typical breed trait. All these thoughts are my personal experience only with the one litter I have been exposed to so I am sure other folks have different thoughts. I have never had a better dog. Intensely bonded to my family, loyal, protective, alert and attentive. I cancelled my alarm service as it is not needed. My house is secure.
 

ZEBO75

Well-Known Member
Thanks Steve for you great input. My pup is not showing aggression but I have notice that he is starting to duck strangers. He currently gets along with other dog but tries to hump bigger dogs for dominance. At only 5 months and some change I can already tell that eventually we will have some aggression issues. I do socialize him and give him exercise and training. I think the key to having a good cannine citizen is to have proper training, socialization and exercise. All dogs should be mentally and physically stimulated.