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What is happening to my girl? I'm scared!

Bailey's Mom

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Okay...at first I thought she was just giving me attitude, you know, "You're just watching TV (boring) and I'm going up to bed until you come to your senses." So, I just blew it off for the first few times, but then it continued. She didn't want to sit with the family any more. She'd greet people coming home and as soon as the pets were over...back upstairs to my bed.

Note: it isn't just to my/our bed, but, more importantly, it's into my side...my spot. I have my spot and she has her spot. When I wrecked my knee, I tried to sleep on her side, but she was determined to have it back, so, this affinity for my spot is a message to me.

Okay, so this is about a month now of this odd behaviour, but everything else seems normal. Her poops are really good, which is a great improvement because we've gone through the loose stools and boiled rice and lean ground beef on many occasions. She gets one long walk a day (sometimes 2, if I have a day off.) She plays and wants to play with us and has been increasingly bringing us her new toys for a bit of tug. She doesn't appear to be in pain (but with dogs it is hard to tell.) She still loves eating grass, and I've started a pot for her inside under the grow light, and I still help her forage for the good stuff while we can still find it.

Nothing else seems out of sorts. She plays...she poops...she eats...she very actively mooches. She loves going to the dog park, though she is less active...less running, more sniffing and socializing. Her food hasn't changed, good Acana kibble, which she grazes on (rarely gobbles a whole bowl), she gets roast and chicken and steak and lean ground beef. I cook these for her from scratch, no spices, per se. The chicken is from Metro every Tuesday and she gets four or five meals from it (sometimes she shares with Mommy.) She likes sweet potato, and cucumbers, and grass...lovely, long, succulent grass. Outside of this she gets her Dentastik and her marrow bones and her basted milk bones...some plain milk bones, too. And cheese! Oh, yes, she loves cheese, but she doesn't get it every day...maybe three times a week. Once a week, if she's lucky, she gets a bully stick. So, nothing has changed.

Sorry for making this so long, but I've been mulling every aspect of her life over. I've even considered how much politics we watch. Jon yells at the TV some times, and I yell at him to stop yelling so I can hear. Maybe she's just worn out from our interest in the midterms.

I'm working a little more, maybe that? Oh...my friend next door stopped walking her dog with us (sad for her housebound pup, but I can't handle him to give him a walk...too leash aggressive.) Some times I have him over so that they can visit. This is a mixed blessing because she doesn't like sharing her toys.

Ideas? Solutions? Help? She had her wellness check up with the doctor and there were no issues that they saw...they didn't even yell at me about her being at least 7-10 lbs overweight. She weighs 132 right now.
 

Bailey's Mom

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She is a little over 5.5 years. I've seen the slow down happening for a while, just considered it to be maturity...less puppy.
 

Boxergirl

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When you say she had her wellness checkup, what does that entail? Just a routine check? Did it include any bloodwork? Thyroid panel? If she hasn't had a blood panel done, including thyroid, for a few years I might suggest you have that done. Not because I expect anything to be wrong, but because I like to have baseline numbers.

I'm not hearing anything that raises an alarm to me. But I do think it's important to note all behavior changes. So if she checks out health-wise and you do a blood panel, then I would just keep my eyes open. I have OCD. Not joking. I make lists and am "scenario girl." I have notes of any behavior or health changes that I notice, no matter how small. Mostly it ends up being nothing, but sometimes the small things are important. Most likely she's just getting older and this is her new normal.
 

Bailey's Mom

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We had our neigbour over last night with her dog, and we put our heads together. Lisa really loves Bailey, but her life has changed/and the weather has changed so walks are difficult for her. She has suggested bringing Bailey over to her house for a couple of hours a day when I'm working, that way she can visit and play with her dog or just snooze on her couch. So, we tried that today. My husband came home early sick and Bailey came home and snuggled with him. When I got home we all stayed together....She didn't head for the stairs and isolate herself.

Later, we went out for a long walk and she had a good time (visited with two friend dogs.) She seemed clingy, but happy. Right now she has melded her body to my side (so Mastiff) and her head is pressed against my bad knee (thank God for cortisone shots...it doesn't really hurt.)

Perhaps this behaviour is all rooted in depression caused by her changing circumstances, but maybe it is medical/chemical...maybe she's in pain...in decline. Whatever it is, it needs to be dealt with. I'm going to call the vet tomorrow and ask for the blood panels to be run. We have insurance so if she really is ill her treatments will be covered.
 

Boxergirl

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Please keep us updated. Make sure to request the thyroid panel. That's not usually included with routine blood work.
 

Nik

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It's always better to be safe than sorry but to me this sounds like a mood thing. But, better to rule out medical first.

As far as mood I get the moody dog thing. Diesel hates change and I have seen him go through moody periods. When we lost Cerberus that was very difficult on him. It wasn't until we got Kahlua that he perked up. Our move has been very hard on him. I would watch him get depressed every time my husband would head out to get another load of stuff from California. My husband is here permanently now much to all of our relief and last week was his first week at his new job. The first day he left for work Diesel got very moody like he did before each of Sean's trips. By day three he stopped reacting to Sean leaving for work. He is starting to learn that there is a new routine and we are all home together for good now. He gets upset if I dont' make it to my desk for work on time every week day (holidays are hard on him... he expects us to be to work in our office every morning by 9 am, he's worse than my boss!).
 

Bailey's Mom

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Yes, we are pretty sure it is an emotional thing. She is responding to extra consideration and attention. She loves visiting the neighbour and I'm trying to make more time for longer walks and trips to the dog park. Jon is helping, when I'm working through the afternoon he often takes her to the dog park so that she can mingle and socialize. And he has provided me with a few short films of her having a great time.

On a few occasions when she has been impatient for a walk, she has again headed for the stairs. I've had a lot of paperwork to do lately and she doesn't like it one bit. She hangs off me begging for attention. (I think she hates my laptop!)

We have her human sister here this week with my grand-puppy and she is out of sorts because of the pup. He's very bouncy and she is very laid back. So there are growls and showing off with toys and bonies. And last night because both my daughter and I needed to sleep before her settlement meeting, Bailey was locked out of the bedroom. Jon said she paced all night and wouldn't settle with him. She thought she was being punished and as a result she has been sick today with runny stools. (just like a human...emotional upset equals tummy troubles.) (All the extra treats her Sissy brought might have had a bad effect as well.)

My daughter will be staying for at least another night, maybe two, BUT, Bailey will be returned to her rightful place on the bed next to her Mommy.

So, today (especially today) is an emotional nail-bitter. The lawyers are finally sitting down and talking $'s for the accident settlement.... My nerves are on edge. I wasn't allowed to be there. I have to sit it out with the dogs and I'm sure they are feeling it. It's going to be a long day and I should be trying to walk the dogs (at different times), but it is freezing out. I came home after dropping her off and I couldn't get warm (probably part of my anxiety as well.)

It's going to be a long day...a very long day.
 

Boxergirl

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Sending you lots of vibes for a positive resolution to your daughter's settlement.

Al always had bowel issues during times of emotional upset. I'm glad Bailey seems to be doing better and you don't think it's a physical issue.
 

Nik

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I am so glad to hear this is likely an emotional thing. Sorry to hear of the tummy issues though. That is never fun for anyone to deal with (us or the dog).
 

Bailey's Mom

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SETTLEMENT REACHED! I've had about 8 hours sleep in three days. Now I'm just going to relax with Bailey and sleep in for a week. Bailey approves. Snuggling in the big bed is one of her favourite things to do. And one large load has been taken away...my daughter will be able to live independantly for the rest of her life and all her medical/therapy needs will be covered. It's been a long hard road for everyone. I'm glad that it is a different, more hopeful journey that starts now.
 

Bailey's Mom

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Well, the whole thing was emotional. She was being overlooked because of the stress of the other issues that had us working with tunnel vision. Our girl needs to be talked to and played with and given time to tell you what she wants...choices. So, we've been giving her more choices and she has been loving it. And two days ago Jon and I took her to the Dog Park and she was over the moon with happiness. She'd run with all the dogs for a while, but then she'd come back with the biggest grin on her face and she kept popping up to kiss her Dad and me. Real kisses too! Usually she just presses her muzzle to our lips, but this was the real thing, big wet kisses. She was in her happy place. We hadn't been going because of all the health and family issues, both Jon and I were whipped tired, but our girl needs to run and play and socialize with all her dog friends.

Who knew that I had such a social butterfly?

Life is too short, friends and shorter still for our Mastiffs, their 10 or 12 years go quickly and we all need to remember to fill those years with as many good and happy memories as we can, and not just for them, but for us. When she is gone, I don't want to look back and wish I'd given her more. I want to know I gave her the best life I could and that she was blessed and happy. I know that I have been blessed and happy because of her.
 

Nik

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Well, the whole thing was emotional. She was being overlooked because of the stress of the other issues that had us working with tunnel vision. Our girl needs to be talked to and played with and given time to tell you what she wants...choices. So, we've been giving her more choices and she has been loving it. And two days ago Jon and I took her to the Dog Park and she was over the moon with happiness. She'd run with all the dogs for a while, but then she'd come back with the biggest grin on her face and she kept popping up to kiss her Dad and me. Real kisses too! Usually she just presses her muzzle to our lips, but this was the real thing, big wet kisses. She was in her happy place. We hadn't been going because of all the health and family issues, both Jon and I were whipped tired, but our girl needs to run and play and socialize with all her dog friends.

Who knew that I had such a social butterfly?

Life is too short, friends and shorter still for our Mastiffs, their 10 or 12 years go quickly and we all need to remember to fill those years with as many good and happy memories as we can, and not just for them, but for us. When she is gone, I don't want to look back and wish I'd given her more. I want to know I gave her the best life I could and that she was blessed and happy. I know that I have been blessed and happy because of her.

I'm so glad to hear that Bailey and you as well are doing better. Diesel is very sensitive like that as well. And he also does the muzzle touch instead of kiss. When he gives real kisses it is very special. Kahlua, on the other hand, would give kisses all day if I let her. <3