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Cane Corso newbie question

Pato

Member
We have a 12 week old female Corso, Juno. She is great but I am a bit worried about how shy she is around people and dogs. She is great with the family but when a new person comes over she is super shy and a bit afraid. She never shows any aggression, she just wants nothing to do with them. If the person ignores her she eventually comes around and will sniff the person and warm up a bit. She warms up a lot faster to my daughter's friends (10 year olds) than adults. When we are walking she ignores people and if a person comes over and tries to pet her she will back away. Of course now I tell people not to try to pet her.
She definitely is not like those puppies super happy to meet anyone, wagging their tails like crazy.
Is this normal or should I be worried? In a couple of weeks she will be starting puppy classes which I hope will help her get over her fears. With dogs is the same, she wants nothing to do with them.
If I have to describe her she is a bit on the scared side. If a new noise happens her first reaction is fear and after she is exposed to that noise or situation a coupe of times she relaxes and it's ok with it.
Thank you so much for any feedback!
 

Boxergirl

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Welcome to the forum. Juno is a beautiful girl.

I agree that it's normal. FWIW, socializing isn't what so many people seem to think it is. It doesn't mean letting your dog meet all the other dogs and letting every person pet her. Socializing is taking your pup out and exposing her to as many sights, sounds, smells, weird surfaces, etc. as possible. This includes every kind of person you can think of - large, small, of different ethnic groups, wearing hats and sunglasses, with beards ... not making her interact with them, but exposing her. What you really want is a dog that will ignore other dogs, people, and distractions and pay attention to you. Allowing people to pet your dog is fine, if your dog is okay with it. If not, allow her to observe while you interact with people and she'll let you know when she's ready. Same with other dogs. Choose what dogs your puppy interacts with carefully. You want her experiences to be super positive right now, so only allow her to interact with dogs you trust.
 

Pato

Member
Thank you! I feel a lot better to hear this is a normal reaction for her. I would compare her to super friendly puppies and would start to worry. Boxergirl, thank you for the socialization clarification. That is what we mainly do, expose her rather than interact. At one point I was afraid we might be doing it wrong, therefore the shyness, and more interaction was needed. So it is great to know we are doing it right and that her reaction is normal.
Thank you both for the input!
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

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A corso is not meant to be super friendly to everyone, some are and some aren't but a dog that isn't is correct to the standard for the breed. While a puppy exposing them to everything is important they don't have to like everyone but teaching them to be non-reactive unless there is a perceived threat is important for the breed.
 
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Jarena

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I'm no expert but my Corso is 15 weeks and was the same way just 3 weeks ago, she is slowly getting more brave. I noticed that she was more afraid when people marched up to her directly in front of her. Almost "came at her". She responded much better if they slowly approached and spoke to her. It also helped if I was crouched down beside her letting her know I was there and I see the person and I'm not afraid. Or I would have them stop and we would approach them instead.
Now she goes up to a new person, let's them say hello, then completely ignores them!
 

DennasMom

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I totally agree with Boxergirl.
Our goal was to introduce one new item (umbrella, noise, toy, etc.) per day, and one new Location (park, playground, pet shop, garden center, strip mall, etc.) per week.

I always gave Denna LOTS of time to inspect things by herself, and if she still wouldn't interact/sniff it out, I'd go play with the item and entice her to join me. When she DID show curiosity, I'd praise her for "checking it out". She now will "check it out" on request... things like flapping banner signs would freak her out on a walk, but if I asked her to go "check them out", she'd slow down and give them a second look, eventually deciding they were nothing to be afraid of.
 

AurorasMom

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Our female, Aurora, who was and still is (at 16 months) wary and shy despite hours and hours of socialization, training and daycare. We eventually learned acceptance was key. Early on I would get frustrated and wished she could be more like a friendly, happy go lucky Labrador, but realized that was unfair to her. She is a guardian breed and fine tuned to detect and be suspicious of anyone or anything "strange". This also means she is going to "interview" people. She is very loving and affectionate with family, neighbors, daycare staff and trainers, but she reserves the right to let someone know she's uncomfortable if they are coming on too strong. We've learned to read when she's uncomfortable (hiding/ignoring when she was younger, backing away, stretching her front half towards the object she fears while keeping her back legs far behind, or even growling) and most importantly accepting it. I had to come around to recognizing that her being shy or wary doesn't mean she is somehow less of a dog, but that she just needs more understanding from us.

The second thing we learned was important was advocacy. It sounds like you are already doing that by not allowing everyone pet her. We've leaned to be her advocate and communicate to people to let her come to them. She will still back up from people she knows (neighbors, daycare staff) that come on too strong. So we encourage people to let her sniff them and scratch under her chin versus pat her on top of her head. Sadly when she was a younger we probably should not have pushed her to interact with strangers beyond her comfort zone. Like BoxerGirl said, socialization is not necessarily about interaction, but more introduction/exposure. We try to be more mindful now to let her decide her space and pace.

When she was a puppy we also trusted a daycare that "graduated" her too quickly to a larger dog play group. I quickly found her another daycare that was more caring and tried to accommodate her unique needs. They kept her in a puppy/small dog play group until she gained enough confidence to join the boisterous teenage play group. This daycare was also willing to incorporate specific training like dispensing treats so she could make positive associations with certain staff members. She now enjoys many more friendships (dog and human) than we alone could give her. My husband and I joke she probably has more friends than we do. It's great to see her enthusiastically run into the arms of her daycare caregivers when dropping her off and watching her play with her furry friends on the daycare videocam. In place of a daycare, you can also try to connect her with trustworthy friendly dogs. We had two neighbor adult dogs that could be completely trusted with a puppy so they met and played with our girl. She still adores them to this day although she now dwarfs them in size.

And finally training has been very helpful. As mentioned we reward with lots of high value happy treats whenever she is meeting new people, places or things. We take our time and let her set the pace of the introductions. We've also learned to try to lighten her mood with silly playful talk. For example if she's afraid of a new object we will speak to her and use a tone that belies this is nothing to be afraid of. She seems to then catch on that the object or thing is not a threat. We also took a class on training games that we try to use to help relieve her anxiety and focus her attention on something fun and rewarding.

Hopefully, reading about what we have found to work and what has not for us will help you and your girl!
 

Nik

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Our female, Aurora, who was and still is (at 16 months) wary and shy despite hours and hours of socialization, training and daycare. We eventually learned acceptance was key. Early on I would get frustrated and wished she could be more like a friendly, happy go lucky Labrador, but realized that was unfair to her. She is a guardian breed and fine tuned to detect and be suspicious of anyone or anything "strange". This also means she is going to "interview" people. She is very loving and affectionate with family, neighbors, daycare staff and trainers, but she reserves the right to let someone know she's uncomfortable if they are coming on too strong. We've learned to read when she's uncomfortable (hiding/ignoring when she was younger, backing away, stretching her front half towards the object she fears while keeping her back legs far behind, or even growling) and most importantly accepting it. I had to come around to recognizing that her being shy or wary doesn't mean she is somehow less of a dog, but that she just needs more understanding from us.

The second thing we learned was important was advocacy. It sounds like you are already doing that by not allowing everyone pet her. We've leaned to be her advocate and communicate to people to let her come to them. She will still back up from people she knows (neighbors, daycare staff) that come on too strong. So we encourage people to let her sniff them and scratch under her chin versus pat her on top of her head. Sadly when she was a younger we probably should not have pushed her to interact with strangers beyond her comfort zone. Like BoxerGirl said, socialization is not necessarily about interaction, but more introduction/exposure. We try to be more mindful now to let her decide her space and pace.

When she was a puppy we also trusted a daycare that "graduated" her too quickly to a larger dog play group. I quickly found her another daycare that was more caring and tried to accommodate her unique needs. They kept her in a puppy/small dog play group until she gained enough confidence to join the boisterous teenage play group. This daycare was also willing to incorporate specific training like dispensing treats so she could make positive associations with certain staff members. She now enjoys many more friendships (dog and human) than we alone could give her. My husband and I joke she probably has more friends than we do. It's great to see her enthusiastically run into the arms of her daycare caregivers when dropping her off and watching her play with her furry friends on the daycare videocam. In place of a daycare, you can also try to connect her with trustworthy friendly dogs. We had two neighbor adult dogs that could be completely trusted with a puppy so they met and played with our girl. She still adores them to this day although she now dwarfs them in size.

And finally training has been very helpful. As mentioned we reward with lots of high value happy treats whenever she is meeting new people, places or things. We take our time and let her set the pace of the introductions. We've also learned to try to lighten her mood with silly playful talk. For example if she's afraid of a new object we will speak to her and use a tone that belies this is nothing to be afraid of. She seems to then catch on that the object or thing is not a threat. We also took a class on training games that we try to use to help relieve her anxiety and focus her attention on something fun and rewarding.

Hopefully, reading about what we have found to work and what has not for us will help you and your girl!

I completely agree with you. I don't see suspicion of strangers as a flaw. My Kahlua is very suspicious of strangers, of new things, new people, new dogs etc. My Diesel is the opposite in most instances. He loves new people, new dogs, etc (with the exception of when he is home and strangers come near the house). I never saw Kahlua's suspicion as a flaw because I identified with it. I am also super suspicious of new people (not new dogs though lol) so when she acted wary of strangers I completely understood. As someone who is very very introverted and hated being pushed to interact with people by my parents as a kid I always advocate for her personal space. If she doesn't want to interact with a person she doesn't have to. A stranger's desire to pet my dog does not outweigh my dog's desire for personal space (or my own desire for personal space). But, yes socialization with new experiences, new smells, new places so that she can remain calm around things that make her uneasy is very important.

For me the ultimate goal has never been to make my dogs friendly but to make them ignore other people, other dogs, etc. Having a wary dog is a challenge for that end goal but it is no more of a challenge then having a very friendly dog who realllllllllly wants to meet everyone and everything. I flip flop on which is more challenging. They are both challenging in their own way.

When on a walk with my dogs I have to be prepared for every person we come across because each person/dog can trigger Diesel to try to drag me to meet them and can trigger Kahlua to try to hide behind me or pull me away from the new person.

Diesel has enough training now that he *usually* no longer tries to drag me to other dogs and people... Usually.

Kahlua is getting there and can usually ignore most other people and dogs now. The exception is if the dog and person tries to ignore her personal space bubble and the occasional trash can and skate boarders... she really hates skate boarders. We tried desensitizing her in a safe environment by rolling a skate board around her... she didn't care about it at all. But walk near the skate park and she freaks out and refuses to move in any direction other than away.