Cost Effective/w benefits when switching to raw

[mightymastiffs]

just a curious, what kind of source would cow tongue be considered? Meat or organ?? My grocer carries off beat things like cow tongue, pig tails, ox tails, etc. On occasion, we will give a raw treat and wondered if these would be good options???

Cow Tongue is off the wall for some, but I grew up with it and have it at least once a year. This is a very common Jewish treat. To answer the question, tongue is a muscle.

 

[Mamie2shoes]

So, I guess I will be feeding it raw to my furbabies. But how do you cook a tongue????

 

[allformyk9s]

Raw to your dogs, yes ... if you plan on eating it Id say cook it :lol:

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

So, I guess I will be feeding it raw to my furbabies. But how do you cook a tongue????

LOL good question!


Thor had explosive water poo last night.....I knew something wasn't right when I was dreaming about raw food, lol. However at least he tried to go by the back door ( where I let him out at). This was after I gave him chicken necks and backs for dinner. Thinking of fasting him today.

 

[ruthcatrin]

Poor Thor, might be a good idea....

 

[Mamie2shoes]

Does he have chicken sensitivity by chance??? I am not an expert on raw by any means, but we tried raw for a while and Mamie did fine on beef, pork, lamb...but when I fed her raw chicken YIKES!!!! Beyond nasty explosions from her bottom!!! She never has pottied in out bedroom before and she went all over our bathroom floor. She is considerate and used the tile instead of carpet. whew!!! She even did it in front of the toilet. hahahaha she was home alone at the time which is why she didn't go outside. I would fast Thor for today then try a few days chicken free to get things , ahem, "moving" better and regular. Then once it all is well, test with chicken again. good luck

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

I don't think he does but I remember this happening the first time I feed him raw a few years ago. It started off great nice firm poops then within two days same thing splatters. I was still new with raw feeding at the time so I went to old vet who of course suggested to remove him from the raw food and that bones were tearing his insides.......Waited a day and tried again with better results. Could be him just detoxing which I heard some dogs do go through.

Unfortunately he's so picky so I'm afraid to try anything else besides beef and chicken, for some reason this time around he doesn't like pork ribs at all.....

I thought if I skipped breakfast yesterday it would help him some. I even fed earlier so if he did have the runs he would have a longer time outside. Glad to get some second opinions I'm going to fast him today and start small tomorrow with the backs.

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

So yesterday was great for Thor no runs or even squirts for that matter. Actually small albeit chalky stool. ( sorry know the details are gross) , this morning feed three chicken backs. I confined him to the kitchen just in case he has an accident while I'm at work.

 

[ruthcatrin]

Good. Its a start.

 

[mightymastiffs]

So yesterday was great for Thor no runs or even squirts for that matter. Actually small albeit chalky stool. ( sorry know the details are gross) , this morning feed three chicken backs. I confined him to the kitchen just in case he has an accident while I'm at work.

Careful on the backs. My CC & Bulldog love them but it they are awfully boney. I usually feed half a back with half a breast. Depends on the size of the bird

 

[Mamie2shoes]

So how did Thor do today???

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Careful on the backs. My CC & Bulldog love them but it they are awfully boney. I usually feed half a back with half a breast. Depends on the size of the bird

I will keep that in mind. Getting a case of chicken backs, leg quarters, and necks. I tried giving him a leg quarter yesterday but he didn't eat it.

So how did Thor do today???

A little better I can tell he loss a little bit a weight during this ordeal, but nothing significant. Good news both last night and this morning poops were solid but runny. Still confined to the kitchen just in case an accident occurs. Thanks for asking though.

 

[musicdeb]

Poor Thor and DD...I feel your pain on this one. Been there, done that...

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Sigh....get home let Thor out and its back to watery stools.......Not as much since I didn't give him alot, but really.....

 

[mightymastiffs]

Sigh....get home let Thor out and its back to watery stools.......Not as much since I didn't give him alot, but really.....

Keep with it. I was thinking earlier tonight about my Presa and she had wet stools for two weeks through the initial change to raw. Every body is different..

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Keep with it. I was thinking earlier tonight about my Presa and she had wet stools for two weeks through the initial change to raw. Every body is different..

I'm glad to hear this makes me feel a little better. I did some reading last night about transitioning and detox and read that for some dogs its "normal" However I also realized my mistake when I tried to feed him too many meat sources at once. Hamburger apparently gives dogs some issues during the "early" stages of raw feeding. Which was why he had those severe runs those first few days. Now that the hamburger is out of his system, he seems to be getting better.

Yesterday saw some improvement, he still had the squirts but they were significantly small, in fact he almost seemed like was constipated a bit.

I don't have the exact price on hand but for chicken backs, leg quarters, and chicken necks, it was about $60 worth of food. I also ordered some chicken hearts however they were $1.19 lbs, which was about $50 with taxes didn't have enough funds to get everything so I left the hearts. The people were nice enough to hold them for me though. So I'll have to pick them up when I order my next round.

 

[angelbears]

DD, sounds like your own the right track. You may want to check but I didn't think that hearts should be taxed. Heck, any of the unprocessed meats should be tax free.

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Thanks AngelBears I will look into that. The place I got the meat from is a family own business. I just have to figure out who they call to get the meat.. I also might call around for some better prices, it wasn't bad but never hurts to look around.

 

[Tailcreek]

When transitioning to a raw diet it's not out of the ordinary to have some stool issues. Commercial pet foods contain a lot of toxins and chemicals that get built up in the body. Once we start a nutritious natural diet the body then has the nourishment and strength to start eliminating all the junk that has built up. A "healing crisis" is when the the elimination process gets a bit backlogged because the body is trying to expell a lot of junk at once. Some other things you may notice are discharges from the eyes and ears. Unfortunately many people do not understand that a "healing crisis" is a good thing. It means the animal is healing and ridding itself of all the toxins. Depending on the age of the animal and how log it has been eating commercial food, the amount of vaccinations and exposure to other things such as pesticides, household chemicals etc will determine how long the detox will last.

Jennifer Lee
www.tailcreekmastiffs.com

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Thank you Tailcreek, that's just what the articles I read stated. Also had some testimony from others who confirmed the same thing. I haven't noticed any other "cleansing" besides the explosive diarrhea, lol. I did notice that his eye discharge wasn't as gunky like before. Hope to see some more "improvements"

Also finally today I took him out and solid stools!!!! I don't think I've ever been so happy about stools Thank you all for your helpful suggestions and experiences.