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Banning of training tools petition

Steven C

Well-Known Member
What a terrific forum. A forum that discusses how to NOT train dogs. A forum that advises women who rescue Dangerous Presa dogs to NOT be dominant. LMFAO. Bunch of idiots. You guys should go visit the world mastiff forum and learn something with yall back yard dogs.
 

Steven C

Well-Known Member
I am actually here waiting for Vicky to remove my content and then my account. Then the 4 of you can enjoy the forum all to yourselves. LOL
 

marke

Well-Known Member
most folks would just go away and forget it ?????????? you really are coming off as the "nutcase" you eluded to earlier ……… honestly I never had a doubt ……….
 

Steven C

Well-Known Member
I truly hope Vicki does help you remove your account. But I also really hope that she leaves every single one of your posts so those browsing the forum can judge for themselves which participants behaved in a civil manner and which did not.

Oh im not looking for account removal without all of my postings removed first. That is my copywritten material and the formation in which the dead ass folks attack outsiders would never be worthy of my material. It must be removed. Is Dennis still a webmaster to this site? Is the host Godaddy? I have yet to get a response from Vicky so perhaps the host will help in removal of copy written material.

Look at you people. All the others that were here when I joined are now gone. Get a picture of what could be wrong here. This site could thrive but the outrageously agenda based info being tossed out by moderators is insane.
I thought about making an offer to pick up it up and change it, but to be honest its so polluted with backwards info for people dealing with real world problems that it would be impossible to change. Its truly incredible.

Anti ecollar, anti prong, anti structure, anti tools, anti dominant owner, I mean the list just continues and continues. I've had private conversations with others that used to be here and they said the same, they were leaving due to the horrendous agenda based mods. Its so far backwards its hard to even comprehend.

@marke I'm a nutcase? lol No Im a real world dog owner that takes his dog everywhere in public, including travel that has friends with similar dogs that do the same and would enjoy a forum that discusses real world mastiff issues, that is interested in high end training. Thats a nutcase to you? Im an entrepreneur, my wife is also and we use our dog for safety when closing business, thats a nutcase? Okay.
Honestly I feel bad for your dogs sitting outside all day in a run or kennel, no real world training, what a shame. Always shaming people for doing bitework training with the rest of the crew here, just pitiful. Yea most just leave, but I am not most. My written content is value worthy and this site has proven after 2 tries to not be worth my time and certainly not worth my copywritten material.
 

Boxergirl

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure that posts on a public forum are considered copy written material. I'm curious now and I'm going to ask several lawyer friends about this.

I did, however, find this stated in the Privacy Policy of this forum:

"Removal of User Contact Information: With the exception of information considered public record, Users wishing to remove any of their personal information from Mastiff-forum.com's databases may contact the site administration and state their wishes. However, we will not remove your user account or your posts."
 

Steven C

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure that posts on a public forum are considered copy written material. I'm curious now and I'm going to ask several lawyer friends about this.

I did, however, find this stated in the Privacy Policy of this forum:

"Removal of User Contact Information: With the exception of information considered public record, Users wishing to remove any of their personal information from Mastiff-forum.com's databases may contact the site administration and state their wishes. However, we will not remove your user account or your posts."

Typical Boxergirl behavior. Very abrasive no matter what the subject, someone says blue you say green and it never fails. It has become obvious at this point and should be noted for who ever takes over the site moving forward.

So now you want to fight to keep my content on the site? Good luck with that. Do you honestly think your friends will keep my copywritten content on the site? The difference between your abrasiveness and being a smart decent person is an owner of a site saying is it really worth the trouble to keep this guys measly content on the site when he is simply asking us to remove it. Why do you feel the need to fight for it? Why so aggressive ALL the time.

Jut to note, I actually have a screen shot of something in the policy that says they will remove content, I also have screen shots of no terms and conditions anywhere on the site. But in any event as someone who runs e commerce websites, I understand very well hosting, and copywritten material and frankly I don't care what it says. I seriously doubt they want to go through the trouble of keeping my few posts then dealing with the host on copywritten materials.

This seems like its touching close to home am I right?
 

Boxergirl

Well-Known Member
I'm abrasive? And aggressive? Huh. I've never been called anything remotely like that in my life. I DO disagree with many of your opinions, but I have always remained civil. I have even done my very best to help you with health issues with your girl, if you recall. I have disagreed with other poster's opinions before and still respect them and, I believe, they respect me. I believe my posts will speak for themselves.

I have never seen you offer condolences to a member that has lost their dog. I have never seen you offer constructive advice that was offered with an open mind to other opinions on the subject. I think that your behavior and name calling in many posts deserves to be seen in the context which it was originally posted. I believe your posts will speak for themselves.

I like to learn. I'm now interested in the legalities of posting on a forum. I do believe that you retain copyright per the Xenforo user agreement, but that by posting you have given the owners of the forum the right to do what they will with those posts and they are under no legal obligation to delete them. But I'm not sure about that. That's information I'd like to find out for myself and have clarified for the other members that use this forum. If that's me being abrasive, then so be it.

What do you mean it's touching close to home? I have absolutely no agenda here other than believing that members and lurkers have a right to see the full threads, including your posts, so they can make up their own minds what they believe. Even if that's different than what I believe.
 

marke

Well-Known Member
did you read the terms of service when you signed up ? I believe it said something exactly like this

" You are granting us with a non-exclusive, permanent, irrevocable, unlimited license to use, publish, or re-publish your Content in connection with the Service."


@marke I'm a nutcase? lol No Im a real world dog owner that takes his dog everywhere in public, including travel that has friends with similar dogs that do the same and would enjoy a forum that discusses real world mastiff issues, that is interested in high end training. Thats a nutcase to you? Im an entrepreneur, my wife is also and we use our dog for safety when closing business, thats a nutcase? Okay.
Honestly I feel bad for your dogs sitting outside all day in a run or kennel, no real world training, what a shame. Always shaming people for doing bitework training with the rest of the crew here, just pitiful. Yea most just leave, but I am not most. My written content is value worthy and this site has proven after 2 tries to not be worth my time and certainly not worth my copywritten material.

my dogs have free access to a half acre 24/7/365 all of them have since 1992 …they don't have to ask someone to go out , or wait on someone to let them out ………. they'll lay on my bed with their heads out the window waiting to see something moving out back , squirrel , chipmunk , rabbit , possum , raccoon and then take off through the living room and kitchen out the back door to catch whatever they seen , they sleep outside if they feel like it , they hunt all night if they want …… I feel bad for the pups I don't keep …………. I read the forum , see problems folks like you are posting your having , and I pretty much just try to think of why I think I don't have those problems ,having had somewhere around 60 dogs I've never had a behavior problem with any of them …………. my father was a for real dogman , I never even had a behavior issue with dogs when I was a kid …….. you remind of some of the folks I met through the gamedogs …. they clamed to be , and folks actually regarded them as "dogmen" , they had some crazy assed off the wall ideas of what they were looking at, in reality they didn't have a clue what they were looking at , down right nutjobs who shouldn't have owned a goldfish ……. I had some of them want my pups , the guy who raised me wanted one of my pups and I loved that guy, these guys were regarded as knowledgeable "dogmen" , not a chance was one of my pups going to them , they were far from my definition of dogmen ……. the folks who put my pup down for aggression were "dogmen" , never would that have happened had I kept that pup , clueless folks who think they can train a protection dog ………. bitework ????? I've known lots of protection sport folks , some for real , I can differentiate from having seen guys like Banuelos , Richie , Marcel Harnois , Metcalf , Boyd , JEL , Koura , actually get real verifiable results in breeding and training non traditional badass/dangerous dogs , they knew what they were looking at ........and then to have seen folks like raponi and lee robinson
 

Steven C

Well-Known Member
I have never seen you offer condolences to a member that has lost their dog. I have never seen you offer constructive advice that was offered with an open mind to other opinions on the subject.

I have not been on the site long enough to offer condolences first off. If you are implying that I do not love animals you are mistaken and you are also trying to make yourself look innocent when you know clearly there are attacks happening on this forum.

Secondly on this site it is not possible to offer constructive advice without being group attacked. That is the truth. Anyone differing in opinion will in fact be attacked by You, Marke, Glen, a few others and the imbecile that told me I should move as I would be happier and so would my dog. Imagine someone joining the group attack to tell me to move as he lives in a lollipop world where no crime exists with his backyard dog.

There is actually a name for these type of attacks which I cannot remember at the moment. Isn't it funny how the attack group all have the exact same agenda. As Glen stated he would be violent to anyone who put a prong on his dog, and also felt the need to be obscene on the site citing urination which I have screen shot, one of the reasons that my content cannot be on the site is due to obscene behavior near my screen name which will be noted if I get no compliance to my demands for removing specifically my content.

So I will get out of you guys hair, I am asking very nicely to please remove my content in full, not very much as I am only a small member and subsequently remove my account. A very simple request. Thank you.
 

marke

Well-Known Member
asking someone to defend an opinion that you see as wrong is an "attack" to you ……….. I do understand the thinking of someone who feels that way as I've known many of them in my lifetime ……… myself , i'll defend my view with factual info and experiences and see where it goes ……… I am old enough to have realized "the older I got , the more I realized how little I know " I wonder if you'll ever feel that way ?
 

glen

Super Moderator
Staff member
Omg citing urination, are you for real,
Youve called someone a f..king prick, so your happy to put your name to that,
You make assumptions on us and our dogs,
I can take my dogs in the public, parks,beach, we camp with our dogs.
Just because i dont use prong collars you will instantly assume my dogs are proper ccs, they certainly are.
I will say again, i would not allow anyone to put a prong collar on my dogs, they dont need them, they have been properly trained. You may have your dog for protection and if she bit someone going to harm you that would be ok, yes my dogs protect me, i also would protect them.
I also respect my dogs and in return they respect me.
And let me rephrase taking the piss, i was being sarcastic, im from the uk and here taking the piss isnt offensive.