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If you aren't completely dedicated.....Just don't get a dog!

Rugers-Kris

Well-Known Member
This is not written specifically for anyone but just as a general reminder. I am so sick of seeing dogs "re-homed", sitting in shelters, "free to a good home" on here, facebook and even yard sale sites for crying outloud!!

I am so tired of seeing injured or even just unhappy dogs because people get them and either don't do shit for training or just throw them in the yard and forget about them until they become a problem.

It truly breaks my heart and it is everywhere you look. I understand there are times that you can end up with a dog who has real issues that aren't able to be trained away but that really is a rare occurrence. There are those situations that you take a dog in that just can't fit in with your pack and I understand that as long as you are responsible and make sure that you rehome responsibly. It is just so damn sad to see all of these dogs posted all over the internet looking for a foster, a new home or the next new home when many of them have been shuffled from place to place.

If you aren't of the mind that when you get your dog, he/she is your family member and forever a part of your family, please don't get one. It really is quite easy to decide not to.

I have so much respect and appreciation for people who rescue but please don't say you "rescued" a dog if you aren't intending to do that. Don't "rescue" a dog if you aren't ready to accept the responsibility with what that entails and you aren't in a position to offer a better life than the one they already have.

It seems so many people buy/get puppies and have expectations that it will be easy. It will NOT. It is NOT supposed to be easy. Training is the most important thing you can do for your dog and if you don't and your dog ends up having "issues" that you can't handle...Please keep in mind that YOU are the one that caused those issues, your dog is not failing, YOU are.

I have met some of the best dog owners ever on this forum and I am thankful to have done so and to be a part of it but I have also seen some dogs put in the worst positions possible and it just tears my heart out.

You don't accidentally get a dog.....It is a decision you make. Thinking a puppy is cute is not a good reason to get them. Please consider all of the pros and cons and weight them against what you are capable of and willing to do prior to make a decision to get a dog.

Setting a dog up to fail is wrong. It is that simple. Either you are devoted completely or you don't need a dog. I don't know how much clearer that can be. This is an even bigger deal with Mastiff's specifically as they are the biggest dogs there are and that means it is that much harder to control an untrained giant. Then your dog does something horrible (because you failed him) and not only does he/she get pts but the breed as a whole pays the price for your ignorance and lack of dedication.

To add to the that, Mastiff's are very sensitive FAMILY dogs even more so than other breeds IMO (I am NOT implying that all dogs don't deserve their own forever family because they do) and it is so detrimental to their well being to be treated badly/unfairly and not receive the love they deserve. They BOND like no other and will be devastated if neglected and ignored or treated harshly.

Again, this is not written specifically for anyone but if you bring a puppy home and the basic puppiness (Bitey young puppy behavior) freaks you out and you find yourself scared or referring to your puppy as "Aggressive"...YOU ARE NOT READY FOR A DOG. Asking for ways to train is ok but when you have a 8-14 week old puppy that is simply being a puppy and you are worried they will hurt or kill your children because of their aggressive behavior, do them a favor and rehome them before they are older, out of control and harder to re-home.

Ask yourself some questions prior to getting a new puppy/dog and answer them HONESTLY and use that information to decide if you really should add a new member to your family.

The following questions are just samples of what I wish people would give thought to prior to getting a puppy/dog:

First and foremost are you ready to accept this puppy/ forever? If you have a puppy....Are you stable enough in all of the areas of your life to offer them the care they need and the patience they require as well as the love the deserve for the next 15 YEARS? Are you willing to find a place at all costs to rent that you can keep your dogs in? It can get difficult when you are moving with 100+ pounds of dog to find a place that will accept them. Are you committed to doing whatever it takes to find a place? Can you imagine yourself considering re-homing because you "can't" find a place? If so....walk away. If your puppy is diagnosed with a serious condition are you willing to invest the money that it will cost to have surgery, medications, etc. to keep your dog healthy and happy? No matter what? You aren't sure? It depends on where you are in your life? Maybe not? WALK AWAY!!! Do you have children? Do you intend to have more? Are you ready to teach a giant dog how to interact with a new baby and willing to make it work NO MATTER WHAT? Not sure? WALK AWAY!!!

Am I ready to totally commit to training diligently to teach this pet the rules so that they can become the best/happiest dog they can be? When asking yourself this question, think about the many accidents on your furniture, rugs, floors that will occur, all of your possessions you may lose to puppy chewing, how much difficult it will be to do all of this with small children, How you significant other feels about those issues, etc......Consider how you feel about getting little to no sleep while housebreaking for possibly several months. Consider how much consistency and effort is required to teach basic commands.....

I could go on and on and all other additions from forum members are welcome and appreciated but basically I just needed to vent after seeing a few more Mastiff's being rehomed and another that will probably be put to sleep because people got a puppy and failed them. Sigh
 

Jenandchewie

Well-Known Member
I couldn't agree more. We got Max just shy of a year old. We are his third family (that I know of). I'm not sure what happened with his first owner, but the second decided he was too big, destructive and couldn't handle him. He was bored and lacked training was all. We've taken the time to put him through basic training and are now signing him up for CGC training as his next step. We love him and he has become the perfect addition to our family and this is where he will stay. All it took was a little love and time, but we knew what we were getting into.

I live in Indiana and there are so many dogs that are left outside, tied up and ignored here. It breaks my heart and I want to dog nap each and every one of them. I just don't get it. I can't look into my dogs eyes or any dog for that matter and not see a precious animal that just wants love and compassion. I get much more joy in return than I feel I give them and they get lots! I will never understand how someone could do that and not feel guilty.
 

Rugers-Kris

Well-Known Member
Thank you so much for rescuing Max and dedicating yourself to make your home his FOREVER home. There just aren't enough people capable of doing this correctly to save all of the dogs have been failed. I just can't for the life of me understand why a person would get a dog if they didn't want it to be a family member. AND so many people truly believe that "it's just a dog" and not only does the dog take all of the blame they don't even care to consider what the dog is going through. I am just so damn tired of seeing it.
I couldn't agree more. We got Max just shy of a year old. We are his third family (that I know of). I'm not sure what happened with his first owner, but the second decided he was too big, destructive and couldn't handle him. He was bored and lacked training was all. We've taken the time to put him through basic training and are now signing him up for CGC training as his next step. We love him and he has become the perfect addition to our family and this is where he will stay. All it took was a little love and time, but we knew what we were getting into.

I live in Indiana and there are so many dogs that are left outside, tied up and ignored here. It breaks my heart and I want to dog nap each and every one of them. I just don't get it. I can't look into my dogs eyes or any dog for that matter and not see a precious animal that just wants love and compassion. I get much more joy in return than I feel I give them and they get lots! I will never understand how someone could do that and not feel guilty.
 

powergc

Well-Known Member
Well said, Kris!

I also couldn't agree more. It breaks my heart to see animals that are neglected or abused. If you don't want a pet, why get a pet????

Pets are family and they are forever.
 

glen

Super Moderator
Staff member
well said Rugerkris i dont think many people see past the cute puppy that they see and cant not buy.
I would like to add are you prepared for not taking vacations without your dogs,as we know some kennels will not take dogs that have not been neutered/spayed and not all holiday places accept big dog breeds.I hear so many owners of big breeds saying there dogs getting done at 6 months as they have booked a holiday,a suntan fades surely a dogs health comes first.And then some dogs will not do well in
kennels full stop.And if you are willing to get a dog make sure you have a big enough vehicle to take them safely with you.
 

Rugers-Kris

Well-Known Member
I had no doubt you would. :) As you are definitely a dedicated dog owner. Some days it is just more than I can bear to hear the sad stories about these poor dogs that are "bad". The dog isn't bad...The PEOPLE are bad. Then they keep them until they bite someone and the rescues won't even help them.
Totally agree 100%!!!!
 

Jakesmum

Well-Known Member
I was horrified to hear that when our city flooded last year that people left their animals behind in their homes and that animal services had to step in to house these abandoned animals until they could be reunited with their families. It's one thing to be displaced and to have to find temporary shelter for your animal in an emergency, but another to completely abandon them and expect that someone else will take care of them until you decide to go and claim them. I do realize that there were some situations that the families couldn't get into their community, but those families made arrangements with emergency services for someone to go and get their pet, others just seemed to forget about them. Everyone who knows me knows that my animals come first, I don't have children so they are my babies and I will move heaven and earth to care for them and make sure they are happy and healthy.
 

Penelope's Mom

Well-Known Member
What I find shocking is the number of dogs ending up in shelters because kids go off to college. Parent buys dog for kid, kid leaves for school, parents don't want the dog anymore. Many of these dogs are old and people are just putting them in shelters. :(

I never realized that was an issue until today.
 

Rugers-Kris

Well-Known Member
Exactly. It seems so clear........But apparently not since it happens constantly. :-(
Well said, Kris!

I also couldn't agree more. It breaks my heart to see animals that are neglected or abused. If you don't want a pet, why get a pet????

Pets are family and they are forever.

Those are great additions that should be taken into consideration before getting a new puppy/dog. Thank you.
well said Rugerkris i dont think many people see past the cute puppy that they see and cant not buy.
I would like to add are you prepared for not taking vacations without your dogs,as we know some kennels will not take dogs that have not been neutered/spayed and not all holiday places accept big dog breeds.I hear so many owners of big breeds saying there dogs getting done at 6 months as they have booked a holiday,a suntan fades surely a dogs health comes first.And then some dogs will not do well in
kennels full stop.And if you are willing to get a dog make sure you have a big enough vehicle to take them safely with you.
 

mountainfila

Well-Known Member
I was horrified to hear that when our city flooded last year that people left their animals behind in their homes and that animal services had to step in to house these abandoned animals until they could be reunited with their families. It's one thing to be displaced and to have to find temporary shelter for your animal in an emergency, but another to completely abandon them and expect that someone else will take care of them until you decide to go and claim them. I do realize that there were some situations that the families couldn't get into their community, but those families made arrangements with emergency services for someone to go and get their pet, others just seemed to forget about them. Everyone who knows me knows that my animals come first, I don't have children so they are my babies and I will move heaven and earth to care for them and make sure they are happy and healthy.

I bet these same people made sure they had their laptops and personal affects when they left, they would have to come rescue me and my animals cause I would never ever leave them no matter what and If they tried to make me leave without my animals, they would have to pry my cold dead hands from their collars.
 

Rugers-Kris

Well-Known Member
I agree. It disgusts me and makes me completely irate. My children are grown but we have always had dogs and they were always as important as the rest of us. There is nothing I wouldn't do for my dogs.
I was horrified to hear that when our city flooded last year that people left their animals behind in their homes and that animal services had to step in to house these abandoned animals until they could be reunited with their families. It's one thing to be displaced and to have to find temporary shelter for your animal in an emergency, but another to completely abandon them and expect that someone else will take care of them until you decide to go and claim them. I do realize that there were some situations that the families couldn't get into their community, but those families made arrangements with emergency services for someone to go and get their pet, others just seemed to forget about them. Everyone who knows me knows that my animals come first, I don't have children so they are my babies and I will move heaven and earth to care for them and make sure they are happy and healthy.

Yes as well as all of the elderly dogs that are abandoned simply because they are old and the health is failing and people don't want to deal with it. It is a damn shame!
What I find shocking is the number of dogs ending up in shelters because kids go off to college. Parent buys dog for kid, kid leaves for school, parents don't want the dog anymore. Many of these dogs are old and people are just putting them in shelters. :(

I never realized that was an issue until today.
 

Rugers-Kris

Well-Known Member
Absolutely!!! I am 100% with you. Me and my dogs would be leaving and if we couldn't...We would ALL be staying!
I bet these same people made sure they had their laptops and personal affects when they left, they would have to come rescue me and my animals cause I would never ever leave them no matter what and If they tried to make me leave without my animals, they would have to pry my cold dead hands from their collars.
 

Cyndnelson

Well-Known Member
I agree 100% with Rugers, but I don't agree 100% with this. I would say a more appropriate response would be that you need to be prepared to either kennel your dog (which no dog likes, although the kennels make you believe they do) or to start asking everyone you know if they would be willing to dog-sit while you are away. Telling someone they can never take a vacation without their dog is unrealistic. However, if Disneyland allowed dogs, we would certainly take him! :)

And I would also note that we were one of the ones who neutered early because of the kenneling reason and in hopes to prevent any behaviour issues. We were advised by our breeder AND our vet that neutering at 6-8 mo was perfectly fine. However, I now know better. IMO his behaviour has been worse because we neutered him early (timid, not aggressive). We just didn't know any better and went by the advice of those we considered professionals.

So hubby and I have decided that for our next mastiff we will plan to either not vacation for his first two years or ask someone we know to watch him instead. And we have been blessed to find an amazing retired lady who has plenty of experience with dogs and housesits for her retirement. Caesar loves her and we have way more peace of mind leaving him at home with someone who interacts with him all day rather than being only allowed 1-2 hours of outside time a day at a kennel.

well said Rugerkris i dont think many people see past the cute puppy that they see and cant not buy.
I would like to add are you prepared for not taking vacations without your dogs,as we know some kennels will not take dogs that have not been neutered/spayed and not all holiday places accept big dog breeds.I hear so many owners of big breeds saying there dogs getting done at 6 months as they have booked a holiday,a suntan fades surely a dogs health comes first.And then some dogs will not do well in
kennels full stop.And if you are willing to get a dog make sure you have a big enough vehicle to take them safely with you.
 

mountainfila

Well-Known Member
How bout the dogs that get sick and the owners just dump them on the side of the road, just happened in my area a month ago, someone found a blue pit running down the side of the hwy so they picked her up and proceeded to post on facebook to find the owners. Well no one came forward to claim her so the lady took her to the vet for a checkup as they though she was prego, as she had looked like she had a litter recently. Well the vet confirmed that she was not pregnant, the vet also told the lady that the dog was about 10 years old and more tests confirmed she was riddled with cancer, she had lymphoma, and the lady stayed with her as she went to the bridge. I hope the person that dumped her serves the same fate, may they rot in hell for all eternity, shame shame. Im pretty sure this was not a local dog, as we all pretty much know each other in these small surrounding towns, so im pretty sure it was an out of towner who dumped her. This 10 year old dog died in a strangers arms, very sad!
 

sjdavenport

Well-Known Member
[FONT=&amp]I completely agree! I just don't understand what people are thinking sometimes. I foster for a Dane rescue sometimes, and some of the excuses we hear to turn dogs over are just ridiculous. One male was purchased as a puppy by a family, but then he got “too big†(and he was tiny, only 90 pounds), so they gave him away to another family, who then turned him over to rescue because he “needed too much attention.†Are you kidding me???!! You got a large breed known to be very attached to their people and then were surprised when he required attention? Another thing, do people just expect to go to a shelter and adopt a perfect dog with no issues whatsoever? Another of my Dane fosters was given away by her original family to some relatives, they then turned her into a shelter, the only reason they wrote on her paperwork was “needs someone home more.†Then the shelter allowed three different families to adopt and return her before her final adopters contacted the Dane rescue. Same story with my rescued mutt. Adopted and returned to the shelter FOUR TIMES before we adopted him. If the people adopting these dogs aren't prepared to work with them, then why are they getting a shelter dog (or any dog really)?!! You ARE NOT helping the dog, you're MESSING THEM UP!! Guess what? In both cases, their anxiety issues got worse and worse with every time they were returned to the shelter. Ugh![/FONT]
 

glen

Super Moderator
Staff member
cyndnelson.....i hope you are not affended with what i wrote,i help out at a shelter and foster dogs and its not people like you iwrote this about its the people that do know better and still go ahead and do it,one couple with a ddb couldnt afford the kennel while they went away so they got rid because they didnt want the hassle every year.I just thought it was a valuble point if people who havent gone out and got a pup yet to think about.
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
One of the rescue's I follow has had a rash of "the kid went off to college so we don't want the dog any more", and I just can't imagine.....can you picture? Coming home for Thanksgiving and discovering your parents got rid of "your" dog?
 

Cyndnelson

Well-Known Member
Not offended at all! Caesar (EM) is our first dog ever, so lots of learning the ins and outs of dog ownership, and I think vacationing isn't something that people think about as part of the package. We certainly didn't.

Each day I have Caesar, who is now 2 1/2, I love him more and more each day. I didn't know I could love a dog this much. I tell him everyday how special he is to me and give him lots of hugs and kisses. I just don't understand how anyone can get rid of an animal so easily. I'm going to be a total mess when he's gone.

cyndnelson.....i hope you are not affended with what i wrote,i help out at a shelter and foster dogs and its not people like you iwrote this about its the people that do know better and still go ahead and do it,one couple with a ddb couldnt afford the kennel while they went away so they got rid because they didnt want the hassle every year.I just thought it was a valuble point if people who havent gone out and got a pup yet to think about.